More than 50 afghan soldiers killed:IG FC

[CHACHA"G"]

There is only one permanent solution to this ,
Build Fence , Dig a dam hell type Trench and Mine the border and add AMGs(remote control) posts with night Vision and Ground surveillance radars . Also add some CCTV and video recoding systems to our soldiers so they can recorded what really happened.
And increase the number of check posts . We also need 24/7 UCAVs patrolling (CH-3 , 4 , 5 or Winglong). Send all Afganis back home.
Closed , properly secure and monitored borders are need of the hour . We will safe Pakistan from terrorists , smuggling , ANA attacks etc and same benefits for Afghnis .
We lost 12 and almost 50 injured that's a dam big number and Afganis did it knowingly , They know very well what they were doing , Just check the different amo that they were using in the videos they posted by them self , Its just not sudden or driven by situation .

Let them stay on there side , and we will live happily on our side .

 

[F86 Saber]

I am not contesting his narrative, I am merely stating that he should have offered evidence to back up his claim. The world works on tangible proof. Our stance is weak as long as we don't have something to exhibit in support of it.

The only proof would have been pictures of their dead bodies which would have been too gruesome and after which we would have been blamed of "human rights violations" and such. They have come to the dialogue table and admitted that the villages in question are ours, that is proof enough.

 

[IceCold]

Indeed we need to provide proof to back up as such as compare to mass propaganda which is well taught to them or being supported by call centers. However, just for an analysis and an overview, one can compare ANA's ability to what happens in Mazar-e-Sharif. Also, see who raised flag for ceasefire, in the first place that I see as, rival knew, was going to sustain much more than what happened in few hours.

This is the problem you see they entered Pakistani territory on their terms, killed or took hostage whatever and than they made a ceasefire and that too own their own terms. Where exactly does that happen anywhere? How could we just except a ceasefire irrespective of who called it out first unless there is something more to what meets the eye.
Never the less like i wrote to @Icarus and he agrees that Pakistan completely mishandled the situation. This is not the right way to deal with it. We should had continued to pound them and reject any meeting or calls for ceasefire.

 

[The Eagle]

This is the problem you see they entered Pakistani territory on their terms, killed or took hostage whatever and than they made a ceasefire and that too own their own terms. Where exactly does that happen anywhere? How could we just except a ceasefire irrespective of who called it out first unless there is something more to what meets the eye.
Never the less like i wrote to @Icarus and he agrees that Pakistan completely mishandled the situation. This is not the right way to deal with it. We should had continued to pound them and reject any meeting or calls for ceasefire.

I agree that it shouldn't been happened as what it seems to us but IMO, there is more to the situation that the same is not being made public. Also, when it comes to rival hiding within civilians houses, wasn't easy to hit them all however, seems like maximum damage was done hence, the call of ceasefire. However, PA has to come forth with more details and evidence on hand to reject such propaganda.

 

[IceCold]

I agree that it shouldn't been happened as what it seems to us but IMO, there is more to the situation that the same is not being made public. Also, when it comes to rival hiding within civilians houses, wasn't easy to hit them all however, seems like maximum damage was done hence, the call of ceasefire. However, PA has to come forth with more details and evidence on hand to reject such propaganda.

Exactly. Merely making statements of killing 50s is not enough. Make the details public so that it could be of some solace to those who had lost their loved ones in this accident that the armed forces of Pakistan have revenged their country men. Otherwise this is going to set a dangerous precedent. Not only will attacks continue but people of Pakistan will lose hope in the capability of their armed forces to defend them against external threats.

 

[F86 Saber]

Exactly. Merely making statements of killing 50s is not enough. Make the details public so that it could be of some solace to those who had lost their loved ones in this accident that the armed forces of Pakistan have revenged their country men. Otherwise this is going to set a dangerous precedent. Not only will attacks continue but people of Pakistan will lose hope in the capability of their armed forces to defend them against external threats.

They fired at a couple of FC men and unarmed civilians and when we retaliated they ran with their tails in between their legs leaving their dead behind. No further details will be made public as it will result in a different kind of backlash however like i said, they have accepted that the villages they were claiming as their's are ours.

 

[IceCold]

They fired at a couple of FC men and unarmed civilians and when we retaliated they ran with their tails in between their legs leaving their dead behind. No further details will be made public as it will result in a different kind of backlash however like i said, they have accepted that the villages they were claiming as their's are ours.

We retaliated fine, why stopped? Why did we let them run with their tails or whatever? Why did we not enter Afghanistan and made sure that those bastards are killed or captured and brought back to Pakistan? As for the backlash, **** that backlash if it comes at the cost of fellow Pakistanis. We lost 12 men, who will be held responsible for their lives? Merely retaliating isnt enough. A pounding so hard that next time Afghanistan does not dare to fire in our territory yet alone to cross it.

 

[Skywalker]

@SHAH820

That's a very old video from northern Afghanistan I guess. + ANA was not involved in the recent chaman clashes it was only border police.

Accept the failure or I will put more videos and photos of surrenders and APCs don't humiliate yourselves more by posting false videos.

keep barking, all you scums need a massive retaliation.

 

[Hammad Arshad Qureshi]

We retaliated fine, why stopped? Why did we let them run with their tails or whatever? Why did we not enter Afghanistan and made sure that those bastards are killed or captured and brought back to Pakistan? As for the backlash, **** that backlash if it comes at the cost of fellow Pakistanis. We lost 12 men, who will be held responsible for their lives? Merely retaliating isnt enough. A pounding so hard that next time Afghanistan does not dare to fire in our territory yet alone to cross it.

Sir my assumption for this policy is more to do with the tribal nature of the people. I know what I will say will be strange to you but people in border areas are much more loyal to their tribes then there respective countries. It's the tribal nature. And if we start to become cowboy and hit very building standing in Afghanistan border areas specially meeting with Balochistan then technically we are creating hatred in hearts of our own people. I know it is very difficult to understand this behavior for people living in cities but that's how tribal system works. I know this because many of my good friends are from Balochistan. And they informed me about these norms

 

[SHAH820]

@SHAH820

That's a very old video from northern Afghanistan I guess. + ANA was not involved in the recent chaman clashes it was only border police.

Accept the failure or I will put more videos and photos of surrenders and APCs don't humiliate yourselves more by posting false videos.

APC captured with one jacket where is the soldier all you can do is to post pic from a abandon APC which was left cause it got stuck and damaged in afghanistan please dont humiliate your self your whole army with nato cant even free your country as far a i remember your media reported 100 deads in HQ attack but other (foreign media) reported about 250 dead dont humiliate your self we can show you more images where you people are humiliated by pakistani army

 

[ziaulislam]

Look boys, Pakistani soldiers left their uniforms with APCs and both were captured by the Afghan border police:

And the video:

https://www.facebook.com/

Sorry for the foul language

So either they think they can handle a well organized army or they are idoits by continued provocation. If Pakistan isnt acting ita purely due to respect of afghn being a muslim country but their patient might give up and then we will be in situation " babu jee ghul de larey dey"

 

[Kabira]

Afghanis shows white flag after deaths of 2 soldiers? OK lol

 

[Fledgingwings]

Kick these bastards even harder next time they think something like this.

 

[Sinnerman108]

I didn't expected such reply's by senior members here but ok... mazar-e-shareef genocide was done by Taliban when more than 150 were praying the Jumma prayers totally unarmed. Even if you give 5 kids PK machine guns and order to shoot 150+ praying soldiers it wouldn't be a hard thing to do.

Precisely like that
Afghans attacked a team of rangers who were providing security to census team in an area inhabited by civilians.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Unacceptable provocation by the Afghani regime.

Pakistan is well within its rights to respond heavily.