More Mirages

[Blue Marlin]

this is a response to a request from India to purchase a single engined fighter.
why doesn't India look at purchasing the design rights or get a licence for the Dassault Mirage 2000?
they can transfer the tools and jigs to India as France don't make the mirage 2000 any more
they already have it in service and they love it?

it would remove the stupid competition between the f16 and the gripen.

you can provide upgrades and parts to other users and would provide experience you could have never gotten before or could have got if you built the f16 or gripen as kits.

obviously it would need updating and the chances of local production of its engines [m53] as assemblies and local production of perishables and non critical and sensitive parts are higher than the m88 or anything from GE.

what do you think?

@Vergennes @Taygibay

 

[Khafee]

In 5,200 posts, this is the first one that makes sense! Congratulations!!!

 

[joekrish]

Would have been a great idea....

 

[Blue Marlin]

In 5,200 posts, this is the first one that makes sense! Congratulations!!!

so you've read all 5200 of my posts?

talk about being a stalker

never mind.

so what do you think about the idea?

 

[egodoc222]

why doesn't india look at purchasing the design rights or get a licence for the dassault mirage 2000?
they can transfer the tools and jigs to india as france dont make the mirage 2000 anymore
they already have it in service and they love it?

it would remove the stupid competition between the f16 and the gripen.

you can provide upgrades and parts to other users and would provide experience you could have never gotten before or could have got if you built the f16 or gripen as kits.

obviously it would need updating and the chances of local production of its engines [m53] as assemblies and local production of perishables and non critical and sensitive parts are higher than the m88 or anything from ge.

what do you think?

IAF asked for mirages in 2005 but dassault offered rafale instead!!

 

[Khafee]

so youv'e read all 5200 of my posts?

talk about being a stalker

never mind.

so what do you think about the idea?

Excellent idea. Best if HAL does it. Nothing like it.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Excellent idea. Best if HAL does it. Nothing like it.

saw what you did there, very suttel but yet effective.

IAF asked for mirages in 2005 but dassault offered rafale instead!!

but i read in recent articles that india is interested in a single engined fighter

 

[egodoc222]

saw what you did there, very suttel but yet effective.


but i read in recent articles that india is interested in a single engined fighter

Yes!! but dassault is reluctant to sell mirages!

 

[Blue Marlin]

Yes!! but dassault is reluctant to sell mirages!

they cant sell them, as they dont make them any more, read the first post again.

 

[ebrahym]

this is a response to a request from India to purchase a single engined fighter.
why doesn't India look at purchasing the design rights or get a licence for the Dassault Mirage 2000?
they can transfer the tools and jigs to India as France don't make the mirage 2000 any more
they already have it in service and they love it?

it would remove the stupid competition between the f16 and the gripen.

you can provide upgrades and parts to other users and would provide experience you could have never gotten before or could have got if you built the f16 or gripen as kits.

obviously it would need updating and the chances of local production of its engines [m53] as assemblies and local production of perishables and non critical and sensitive parts are higher than the m88 or anything from GE.

what do you think?

@Vergennes @Taygibay

with all due respect
thats just brilliant
given the fact that Mirage 2k was still in demand when they shut its line

 

[egodoc222]

they cant sell them, as they dont make them any more, read the first post again.

IAF went through that road already....French won't give anything related to mirages....they fear that they dent the sales of pricy rafale!!

 

[Grevion]

why doesn't india look at purchasing the design rights or get a licence for the dassault mirage 2000?
they can transfer the tools and jigs to india as france dont make the mirage 2000 anymore
they already have it in service and they love it?

it would remove the stupid competition between the f16 and the gripen.

you can provide upgrades and parts to other users and would provide experience you could have never gotten before or could have got if you built the f16 or gripen as kits.

obviously it would need updating and the chances of local production of its engines [m53] as assemblies and local production of perishables and non critical and sensitive parts are higher than the m88 or anything from ge.

what do you think?

In the singly engine category for the IAF it's a good idea but we already have invested alot into the LCA program and any further money spended on this sort of program won't leave a very well impression with the people back home plus the 2000s are no doubt a very capable aircraft is still a 4 decades old design (hey so is f-16s). The French and the DA will have to provide some serious upgrades like AESA, better performing engines and maybe Spectra too. All of this should be better then the current m2k upgrades. Then there is the factor of local benefits it will provide to the Indian MICs.

All this and the competition with the powerful American weapon lobby and the competition with the gripen makes it all a really tough ask from the DA. They already tasted it all in the MMRCA competition and might not be willing to risk it again.

 

[Blue Marlin]

In the singly engine category for the IAF it's a good idea but we already have invested alot into the LCA program and any further money spended on this sort of program won't leave a very well impression with the people back home plus the 2000s are no doubt a very capable aircraft is still a 4 decades old design (hey so is f-16s). The French and the DA will have to provide some serious upgrades like AESA, better performing engines and maybe Spectra too. All of this should be better then the current m2k upgrades. Then there is the factor of local benefits it will provide to the Indian MICs.

All this and the competition with the powerful American weapon lobby and the competition with the gripen makes it all a really tough ask from the DA. They already tasted it all in the MMRCA competition and might not be willing to risk it again.

who said it would replace the lca? it can simply be built along side it

IAF went through that road already....French won't give anything related to mirages....they fear that they dent the sales of pricy rafale!!

again its not gonna compete with the rafale but work along side it.

 

[Grevion]

who said it would replace the lca? it can simply be built along side it


again its not gonna compete with the rafale but work along side it.

It will gonna compete with the LCA for further orders of single engine jet fighters. Also then the DA will have to offer better then what the f-16 block 70s and the gripen Es are offering with a better price tag. No doubt if the Dassault aviation decides to go ahead with any such plans they will have the advantage over the others as the IAF already operates a good no of mirages 2000 fleet.

 

[Hassan Guy]

It has been out of production for over a decade, who the hell thought of this?