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Ashkenazis are of Khazar origin. The vast majority of Jews today are Ashkenazis. They don't have an ancient connection to Palestine.

A lot of people have done studies on this as well.

Now I'm obviously saying this to get you to respond in a certain way.
 
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Oh you want sources, just ask sweety, and I shall provide.
Israel should have never been in Gaza? Jews have lived in Gaza centuries before the Arabs have gone out of Arabia to conquer and occupy neighboring lands. Jews have lived in Gaza for centuries, though they were driven out by the crusaders and later by Napoleon they always resettled. Finally Gaza was ethnically cleansed by the Arabs in 1948.

for example:
The mosaic first became known to archaeologists in 1966, when the Italian journal Orientalia reported the discovery of an ancient church on the Gaza coast by the Egyptian Department of Antiquities. Within the church was a mosaic floor, described as depicting a figure of a female saint playing the harp and charming wild animals. Two pictures of the mosaic were included in the article.

When Hebrew University Professor Michael Avi-Yonah read this report, he immediately saw in the photos of the mosaic a Hebrew inscription that clearly read “David” (dywd). He correctly identified the figure as King David playing the harp and the building as a synagogue rather than a church.

http://cojs.org/cojswiki/Gaza_Synagogue_Mosaic,_6th_century_CE

Gaza_Synagogue_Mosaic_2.jpg


It was the Hasmonean king, Yochanan, who liberated Gaza in 145 BC. He was the brother of Judah the Maccabee and it was their other brother, Simon, who sent Jews to repopulate Gaza and its environs.
In the Book of Maccabees: 1:15, it says about the recapture of Gaza:

"Not a strange land have we conquered, and not over the possessions of strangers have we ruled, but of the inheritance of our Fathers that was in the hands of the enemy and conquered by them unlawfully. And as for us, when we had the chance, we returned to ourselves the inheritance of our Fathers."

The great medieval kabbalist Rabbi Avraham Azoulai lived in Gaza where he authored his famed work, Hesed L'Avraham, along with a commentary on the Torah (the first five books of the bible). The Jewish inhabitants made Gaza a great center of study and towns and villages from Rafah to Yavne sprung up as centers of Talmudic learning.

Many Jews fled to Gaza at the end of the 15th century where they joined the Jewish community by working in various trades after escaping from the ravages of the Catholic Inquisition.

During the 17th century, Gaza was again home to a thriving Jewish community, which boasted its share of prominent rabbis, including Rabbi Israel Najara, author of Kah Ribbon Olam, the popular hymn sung in Jewish homes around the world every Sabbath. He served as Gaza's Chief Rabbi until his death in 1625. This century also saw the rise in Gaza of Shabbetai Zvi's pseudo messianic movement.

The great scholar, Rabbi Yaakov Emden, ruled centuries ago that Gaza is an intrinsic part of the Jewish people's national heritage. "Gaza and its environs are absolutely considered part of the Land of Israel," he wrote in his work, Mor U'ketziyah, adding, "there is no doubt that it is a mitzvah (commandment and blessing) to live there, as in any other part of the Land of Israel."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_of_Gaza

Okay, and? The ancient Egyptians have much more of a claim to it then you do and it was part of Canaan before Jews came to it.

Jews had little relevance to it and Muslims have a recent stronger claim to Gaza as well.

I don't want to do no copy and paste. People can google Gaza's history from credible sources and not just the Wikipedia.

What makes you believe only Jews have this unique sacred ethnic ancestral claim to this territory? You're absurd.
 
Ashkenazis are of Khazar origin. The vast majority of Jews today are Ashkenazis. They don't have an ancient connection to Palestine.
Both claims are wrong. Ashkenazi Jews are not Khazars and are not wast majority of Israel's population.

Also, since Turkic nations controlled Palestine much longer than Arabs then Turkic Khazars have more rights than the Arabs.

Anyway thats senseless argue because if u start with that u would need to send expell europeans from America, Arabs from most of conquered places and so on.
 
Ashkenazis are of Khazar origin. The vast majority of Jews today are Ashkenazis. They don't have an ancient connection to Palestine.

A lot of people have done studies on this as well.

Now I'm obviously saying this to get you to respond in a certain way.

How about you provide any kind of credible evidence to back this up instead of posting your wishful thinking? I am waiting.
 
Okay, and? The ancient Egyptians have much more of a claim to it then you do and it was part of Canaan before Jews came to it.

Jews had little relevance to it and Muslims have a recent stronger claim to Gaza as well.

I don't want to do no copy and paste. People can google Gaza's history from credible sources and not just the Wikipedia.

What makes you believe only Jews have this unique sacred ethnic ancestral claim to this territory? You're absurd.

Where have I said that Jews have more claim then Muslims to Gaza?
Where have I said that Jews are the only one's with claim in Israel?
No where, but your claims make you look pathetic.

You have said that Jews have no claim to Gaza though, even though historically they have lived there for thousands of years before the Arab occupation.
I am not you, I do not have to deny history and the rights of others to bolster my ego or whatever. I can recognize that several distinct groups have some claim.
 
How about you provide any kind of credible claim to back this up instead of posting your wishful thinking? I am waiting.

I said it on purpose to get to think about who has a more Semetic claim to it. Jews in Europe have done more intermarriage than Palestinian Arabs who hold a more Semetic identity than Jews do.

I want you to respond to my other post regarding Gaza and we the viewers want an answer to your 'God given' unique claim.
 
Both claims are wrong. Ashkenazi Jews are not Khazars and are not wast majority of Israel's population.

Also, since Turkic nations controlled Palestine much longer than Arabs then Turkic Khazars have more rights than the Arabs.

Anyway thats senseless argue because if u start with that u would need to send expell europeans from America, Arabs from most of conquered places and so on.

Jews conquered what they call their 'ancient' land too. So that's a empty point.

Palestinians still hold up to be more Semitic than European Jews.
 
Where have I said that Jews have more claim then Muslims to Gaza?
Where have I said that Jews are the only one's with claim in Israel?
No where, but your claims make you look pathetic.

You have said that Jews have no claim to Gaza though, even though historically they have lived there for thousands of years before the Arab occupation.
I am not you, I do not have to deny history and the rights of others to bolster my ego or whatever. I can recognize that several distinct groups have some claim.

Arab occupation? Are making stupid statements simply out of frustration? So did you consider ancient Israel a Jewish occupation? After all, there were original inhabitants who had their ancient nation as well.

You made a very weak justification to claim a certain territory in Palestine Jewish land. When Jews had no significance in Gaza as you try to make it seem by quoting one of your favorite Rabbi's.

Again, it's you proclaiming your 'unique' 'claim' to the land.
 
I said it on purpose to get to think about who has a more Semetic claim to it. Jews in Europe have done more intermarriage than Palestinian Arabs who hold a more Semetic identity than Jews do.

I want you to respond to my other post regarding Gaza and we the viewers want an answer to your 'God given' unique claim.

What God given right? I have never in my life referred to anything of the like. I do not believe in any so called god given right, do I need to be more clear?
please don't respond to me while intoxicated, your comments are even less intelligible then normally.

As for Arabs being more Semites then current day Jews, that's simply 100% irreverent. An Arab who lived his whole life in KSA or Egypt, who's entire family for all of time and countless generations always lived in KSA or Egypt and who's ancestral line never set foot in Israel does not automatically have some claim over Israel because he is a Semite.

The Arabs, most of which immigrated in the recent centuries from Egypt and Syria to Palestine have no more claim over Jews who immigrated into Israel at relatively the same time frame from Europe who are culturally and historically bound to this land.
 
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Arab occupation? Are making stupid statements simply out of frustration? So did you consider ancient Israel a Jewish occupation? After all, there were original inhabitants who had their ancient nation as well.

You made a very weak justification to claim a certain territory in Palestine Jewish land. When Jews had no significance in Gaza as you try to make it seem by quoting one of your favorite Rabbi's.

Again, it's you proclaiming your 'unique' 'claim' to the land.

Nothing unique in history. re read my comment, I was talking in context about the historical occupation by Arabs of these lands. Do you deny that the Arab conquered and occupied the lands of Israel at the time I was referring to?
The Rabbi was just one of the examples of the Jewish community that existed throughout the ages in Gaza, nice try to ignore the rest of the info in the comment though.
 
Jews conquered what they call their 'ancient' land too. So that's a empty point.

Palestinians still hold up to be more Semitic than European Jews.

It's not exactly true. The bible is not very accurate as a history source. The Jewish tribes developed in and about the area of Canaan, what is true though is that they did conquer non Jewish tribes. Some like Edomites were assimilated. Some were occupied and disappeared as distinguished people, some others migrated to better lands through the course of history.
 
There's no propaganda sweetie. I am not fed into my mouth. I analyze things with fairness and with a certain perspective. It's unlike the western perspective. I am an American as well. Propaganda is the thing you keep repeating which is heard on mainstream news and Israeli news. Not independent social media.

No arab anti-israel propaganda? Not according to https://www.google.com/search?q=arab anti-israel anti-zionism anti-semitic -zionism -"anti-arab" -resolution "mass media"
And you'll find people like you on social media (a forum counts as social media imo), who refuse to even consider alternatives to violent resistance, and refuse even to consider any news sources that say anything that is not exactly what you want to believe.

Then, about anti-muslim/arab propaganda in nato/israeli media, yes, that exists, but unlike the arabs when they bash israel on their media, our media gives the palestinian side their say as well. Ok, fox news excluded perhaps, but they don't determine us foreign policy (not even with a republican president and majority in congress), that's more like a comfort channel for white racists.
 
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