More Anti Pakistan Army propoganda

[BERKEKHAN2]

Attacking a army checkpost is never a good idea

 

[ALi Rizwan]

This is the conduct of an army occupying a region.
Usually I am against the religios groups . but here clearly the army was wrong. it was not upto them to to engage with these protestors. They should have called the police.
That is the conduct of all civilized nations when dealing with their citizens.

Dear Genius,
If you have seen the video you would know that Army Action Justified.
It was Self Defense as Terrorist/Extremist/proxies Tried to Enter the Check Post nor you have time to call Frontier Constabulary. The whole incidence looks staged as these terrorist/extremist wants this to happen.

Some Member even pointed out about firing from outside but you need detail video analysis to confirm it.

 

[Wolfhunter]

This is the conduct of an army occupying a region.
Usually I am against the religios groups . but here clearly the army was wrong. it was not upto them to to engage with these protestors. They should have called the police.
That is the conduct of all civilized nations when dealing with their citizens.

Another Armchair General!

 

[baapu]

Dear Genius,
If you have seen the video you would know that Army Action Justified.
It was Self Defense as Terrorist/Extremist/proxies Tried to Enter the Check Post nor you have time to call Frontier Constabulary. The whole incidence looks staged as these terrorist/extremist wants this to happen.

Some Member even pointed out about firing from outside but you need detail video analysis to confirm it.

it is not the conduct of an army reacting to its own people. If need be they should have evacuated their posts.
I know its hard for Pakistanis to fathom this because they have been governed by the army masters all their life. Thats why Pakistan is where it is. Nothing is the fault of Army generals and army.

 

[Wolfhunter]

it is not the conduct of an army reacting to its own people. If need be they should have evacuated their posts.
I know its hard for Pakistanis to fathom this because they have been governed by the army masters all their life. Thats why Pakistan is where it is. Nothing is the fault of Army generals and army.

Yeah I don't think you understand how the military works!

If need be they should have evacuated their posts.

That's called desertion and is punishable by court marshal!

I know its hard for Pakistanis to fathom this because they have been governed by the army masters all their life.

Please read about ROE before commenting on armed use of force by an Army:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_engagement

Nothing is the fault of Army generals and army

If you can do better, come down to Pakistan and #fixit, lordsahib!

Attacking a army checkpost is never a good idea

Exactly, certainly candidates for the #Darwinaward!

 

[ALi Rizwan]

it is not the conduct of an army reacting to its own people. If need be they should have evacuated their posts.

& do what? Before clearing tribal area all terrorist were trained/planned/ launched from tribal area.
after army operation everything thing moved across the border except its facilitator.
Removing army mean bringing heavily armed terrorist back to tribal areas.
Theirs is thousands of terrorist from tribal area now multiple with tis family + friends + relatives + supporter (it should not be surprise because those involved in smuggling+terrorist Support + Ransom + all illegal & terror actives make huge money from it).

Sorry they are not my peoples if your are in bed with TTP or bend over for them then for me you are an enemy of state.

& if you don't like checking & security forces presence then these people can go back to their daddy (TTP) in Afghanistan.

I know its hard for Pakistanis to fathom this because they have been governed by the army masters all their life. Thats why Pakistan is where it is. Nothing is the fault of Army generals and army.

Sir i can understand your problem.
Dancing at the tune of Foreign NGOs/Agencies & destroy the country in the name of Democracy?
Did army asked them not to follow law?
Did army asked them to make Multi Billions in corruption?
Did Army asked them not to construct dams?
Did Army asked them to waste money+time on IPPs?
Did Army asked them to defend terrorist when Police+army+civilian were suffering from it?

 

[litman]

this video can be made anywhere in the world by any good movie director. whats the evidence that this is miranshah?

 

[ALi Rizwan]

this video can be made anywhere in the world by any good movie director. whats the evidence that this is miranshah?

Pls watched it again.

Video looks real but staged from TTPTM.
They assaulted the post & it was pure self defense.
Single bullet wound to terrorist we tried to enter rest of all terrorist were fine.
they wanted this to happen for their PR.

 

[litman]

Pls watched it again.

Video looks real but staged from TTPTM.
They assaulted the post & it was pure self defense.
Single bullet wound to terrorist we tried to enter rest of all terrorist were fine.
they wanted this to happen for their PR.

bhae any one can make this video. its not so difficult these days.

 

[baapu]

Yeah I don't think you understand how the military works!

That's called desertion and is punishable by court marshal!

Please read about ROE before commenting on armed use of force by an Army:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_engagement

If you can do better, come down to Pakistan and #fixit, lordsahib!


Exactly, certainly candidates for the #Darwinaward!

Again all this is applicable against an army or in war or when occupying an enemy territory. is that what this is?
from the wiki page you quoted :
"ROE is not used for domestic operations in the United States. Instead, the use of force by the U.S. military in such situations is governed by Rules for the Use of Force (RUF)."

Against civilian population a( honorable ) army doesnt have any of these duties. civilian authorities are to deal with these incidents. not the army.
Im sorry sir, but I dont think you know how a army should work.

 

[Wolfhunter]

Again all this is applicable against an army or in war or when occupying an enemy territory. is that what this is?
from the wiki page you quoted :
"ROE is not used for domestic operations in the United States. Instead, the use of force by the U.S. military in such situations is governed by Rules for the Use of Force (RUF)."

Against civilian population a( honorable ) army doesnt have any of these duties. civilian authorities are to deal with these incidents. not the army.
Im sorry sir, but I dont think you know how a army should work.

Okay lets talk about use of force Continuum:

I don't need to write a massive paragraph, this one image rebukes your logic. Throwing stones is deadly resistance and will be met by LETHAL FORCE. End of discussion!

 

[baapu]

Okay lets talk about use of force Continuum:

I don't need to write a massive paragraph, this one image rebukes your logic. Throwing stones is deadly resistance and will be met by LETHAL FORCE. End of discussion!

again , army doesnt use force against its own people. None. zero. not even for self defence when it has a ability to withdraw. Army doesnt have lawful authority to use force as a law enforcement authority.
Like I said, People from pakistan have a hard time understanding this . So lets agree to disagree.

 

[Wolfhunter]

again , army doesnt use force against its own people. None. zero. not even for self defence when it has a ability to withdraw.

Umm, History proves you wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr2Jbybdl6U

 

[baapu]

Umm, History proves you wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr2Jbybdl6U

and these examples resulted in the use of force being widely condemned. no ? When are you going to do the same?
And these forces were specificaly provided legal authority.

this logic that you use is called "whataboutism" you want me to provide a link to explain what that is?

 

[Wolfhunter]

and these examples resulted in the use of force being widely condemned. no ? When are you going to do the same?
And these forces were specificaly provided legal authority.

Are you debating use of force? Or are you debating politics? Come to a conclusion first! I use force in my day to day job and so I have a better understanding of how and when force is used than some randoms on the internet. First decide which angle you want to approach this debate and then we can progress, for now you are just chasing your own tail!