BelligerentPacifist
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That it isn't an 'ethnic' identity!whats wrong with urdu speakers?...Ok - If you want to maintain your ethnic identity than go with the original one
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That it isn't an 'ethnic' identity!whats wrong with urdu speakers?...Ok - If you want to maintain your ethnic identity than go with the original one
karachiite is for every one who lives in karachi, like younus khan, shahid afridi, zaheer abbas
My Grand father migrated from Indian Punjab, Left his 10 Kanal bungalow and agricultural land and came to Pakistan, lived in poverty most of life because My Grand Grand father didnt didn't bribed the Munshi and he didn't allocated any land to them and my grand father worked as electrician lived in two room house against what he used to live in Indian Punjab until his sons provided him somewhat comfortable life when they started doing work and still he didn't regret living India nor he call himself a mohajir and all our family speak Urdu instead of Punjabi in our house.
Why is that All the muhajirs integrated well in Punjab and those wo live in Karachi are still nagging about it!
In 1938, Azad served as an intermediary between the supporters of Gandhi and the Congress faction led by Congress President Subhash Bose, who criticised Gandhi for not launching another rebellion against the British and sought to move the Congress away from Gandhi's leadership.
Azad, Patel and Gandhi at an AICC meeting in Bombay, 1940
"...Full eleven centuries have passed by since then. Islam has now as great a claim on the soil of India as Hinduism. If Hinduism has been the religion of the people here for several thousands of years Islam also has been their religion for a thousand years. Just as a Hindu can say with pride that he is an Indian and follows Hinduism, so also we can say with equal pride that we are Indians and follow Islam. I shall enlarge this orbit still further. The Indian Christian is equally entitled to say with pride that he is an Indian and is following a religion of India, namely Christianity."[10]
Azad had grown increasingly hostile to Jinnah, who had described him as the "Muslim Lord Haw-Haw" and a "Congress Showboy."[14] Despite being a learned scholar of Islam and a Maulana, Azad had been assailed by Muslim religious leaders for his commitment to nationalism and secularism[dubious – discuss], which were deemed un-Islamic.[citation needed] Muslim League politicians accused Azad of allowing Muslims to be culturally and politically dominated by the Hindu community. Azad continued to proclaim his faith in Hindu-Muslim unity:[15]
"I am proud of being an Indian. I am part of the indivisible unity that is Indian nationality. I am indispensable to this noble edifice and without me this splendid structure is incomplete. I am an essential element, which has gone to build India. I can never surrender this claim."
His Birthday, November 11 is celebrated as National Education Day in India.
Abul Kalam Azad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
......... in fact, the country India was never any threat for Muslims?
muhajir CURRENTLY in pakistan are only the AFGHAN refugees! everyone born and raised up in pakistan who has loyalties TO pakistan are pakistanis!!
even in the prophet's time the Muhajiriyin of Mecca were pivotal in madinah! and most of them made madinah there true home and died there! no one doubted their loyalties to Madinah! infact even when given the chance to return to Mecca they preferred to live in Madinah!
So urdu speaking are AS PAKISTANI as anyone else!! and any leader or their follower calling the urdu speaking muhajir or non pakistani should be executed!
everyone born and raised up in pakistan who has loyalties TO pakistan are pakistanis!!
So what should we state?So on these people's birth certificates if they were Pakistani born or wherever should state their ethnicity clearly. "Urdu speaker" doesn't tell us anything.
So what should we state?
Lame idea! Why's ethnicity is required in the first place?Your actual ethnicity, ethnic origin. For example, if your from Bihar or your place of ethnic origin is there you would state Bihari.
Lame idea! Why's ethnicity is required in the first place?
Don't get so carried away...
Many of the older generations of Urdu Speakers weren't born in Pakistan.
The problem with "Urdu speaker" is it doesn't really mean anything definitive. People can be from one of the main ethnic groups of Pakistan and speak Urdu, that makes them an "Urdu speaker", many of us also speak English that makes us "English speakers". The people from India calling themselves "Urdu speaker" need to state their actual ethnicity like Bihari, Kamboh- Uttar Pradesh, or whatever other ethnic group they originate from. The classification "Urdu speaker" is a linguistic one and not ethnic one, that is the main point.
So on these people's birth certificates if they were Pakistani born or wherever should state their ethnicity clearly. "Urdu speaker" doesn't tell us anything.
Why? What has ethnicity to do with anything? What's next? Should we put in the salary of the parents on the birth certificate too? Or their shirt size?It's not a lame idea, rather it is important for demographic reasons and data collection on the diverse population. It should be mandated. Why do you think it is a "lame idea"? Just as name, gender, nationality, city & country of birth, eye color, hair color, are put on the Birth certificate, so should ethnicity.
as long as they don't say ANYTHING ANTI MQM! the problem is every ethnic group has ALL THE RIGHT TO BE RESPECTED! from HAZARE's to the balochis to MEMOMs & PARSIS!
but for MQM "MUHAJIR's" are only the ones that support MQM! the rest are not muhajir's! why is that??? reason is DIVIDE is created by MQM and it thrives on that divide!
tell me are memons muhajir's? answer is yes but do they complain? ANSWER NO! are the memons ruling KARACHI in terms of business again answer is YES!
who collects bhatta from memons and parsis MQM! all memon builders pay bhatta to MQM.
Exactly. For example, ethnically, we're Kokans. But we speak Urdu now and have no link to that culture other than the foodmemons are not even separate they are urdu speakers, they dont even speak gujrati any more, for example edhi is from gujrat etc