Modi’s Balochistan reference ruined Indian stance on AJK: Frm Indian FM Salman Khurshid

[Pride]

wont argue, no comments

US, UN and international media is commenting on this so it is more like foreign peoples appeasement

Commenting what is important. Can you share some international articles where they have used Pakistan's perspective.

defence.pk is not what matters see no one has taken issue of AJK and baluchistan after manohar's comments

What were you expecting that if Manohar would not have said that, A Indo-Pak discussion over AJK? No my friend it never works this way. It is a style we use in management a lot, if somebody is blaming you then start discussion about what were the fault of others in past.

well about economy CPEC runs through GB and i hardly think Pakistan was on backfoot due to kargil but economy yes

Kargil actually brought back Pakistan on backfoot as cost of war was high and damage to reputation was significantly high.

that is again Indian perspective was army murmuring in the ears of Nisar during SAARC sumit
did army shook hands in bangkok .......... Army has a say in foreign affairs like all armies do....... but they are executed by civilians plus it was Nawaz sharif who decided that Pakistani investigation team will go to investigate Pathankot

No repetition of thoughts here from me. Not every army has that much influence as Pakistan does after all just calculate how many Armed regime was there in Pakistan vs India.

 

[DesiGuy1403]

Check at 26:00...The shocking racist mentality of this pathetic guy is in the open. What a low life is this guy? With this thinking I am afraid Balouch will soon their independence.

 

[ebrahym]

Commenting what is important. Can you share some international articles where they have used Pakistan's perspective

its not about Pakistan's prespective but how the world sees the issue
US, UN and english media has not blamed Pakistan but clearly criticized state actions

if somebody is blaming you then start discussion about what were the fault of others in past.

manohar have admitted their involvement
has balochistan issue been picked up recently with the same intensity as IOK?

Kargil actually brought back Pakistan on backfoot as cost of war was high and damage to reputation was significantly high

nope political reputation damaged yes but it was a successfull military adventure the only failure was political as India managed to isolate Pakistan on that
Kargil did not have any major effect on economy but the sanctions due to nuclear program did

Not every army has that much influence as Pakistan does after all just calculate how many Armed regime was there in Pakistan vs India.

its not about Pakistan vs India in every case
look at the influence of armies of turkey , egypt, argentina, belarus, dont go far see Uncle same itself
foreign policy is drawn by all concerned institutes and executed by civilians as is being
you can not compare Pakistan and india in every matter
they are way to different for that

 

[HAIDER]

Former Indian External Affairs minister Salman Khurshid has criticised Indian Prime Minister for making a reference of ‘atrocities’ in Balochistan in his Independence Day address.

Guide on PM speech: Panchsheel n our Kashmir position no interference in internal matters of countries. We stand 2 lose high moral ground

— Salman Khurshid (@salman7khurshid) August 15, 2016

In his annual speech to the nation on Monday, Narendra Modi accused Pakistan of committing human rights violations in Balochistan and Azad Jammu and Kashmir.

Last week, Modi had accused Pakistan of fomenting trouble in held Kashmir, warning that it would have to answer for ‘rights violations’ in Balochistan and Azad Kashmir.

Balochistan terms Modi’s remarks confession of Indian meddling in province

“Is Balochistan a part of India? Doesn’t India believe in Panchsheel? Is it not a departure from that,” the Congressman asked in an interview hours after Modi’s speech.

“By raising Balochistan, he said, the government is ruining its case on Azad Kashmir,” he added.

The Panchsheel is referred in India as Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence, forming the virtues of the relationship between the former and the People’s Republic of China.

“We do this in private conversations… between diplomats and leaders… and convey our concerns. We don’t make these pronouncements as policy pronouncements,” Khurshid maintained.

Indian PM assails Pakistan in Independence Day address

The former foreign minister went on to add that no Indian premier had spoken about Balochistan from the ramparts of the Red Fort, warning there will be a fallout of the act.

However, the Congressman’s own Indian National Congress termed Khurshid’s stance his personal opinion, asserting that India should raise the ‘atrocities’ not just with Pakistan but also in the internationally.

Indian premier’s reference of Balochistan drew a blistering rebuke from PM Nawaz Sharif’s adviser on foreign policy on Monday who termed it a proof that New Delhi was fomenting terrorism in the volatile province.

Intelligence agencies arrested Kulbushan Yadav, an agent of Indian Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) while crossing into Balochistan from neighbouring Iran in March this year.

India ignoring Pakistan’s overtures for peace: Salman Khurshid

Yadav, a senior officer of the Indian navy, confessed in a subsequent video statement that RAW was stoking unrest in Pakistan, especially in Balochistan and Karachi.

The two nuclear-armed arch-rivals have been involved in a tense war of words on Indian atrocities in held Kashmir following the recent killing of a popular rebel Burhan Wani.

The situation has been deteriorating ever since as more than 60 unarmed protesters have been killed in the held valley at the hands of Indian security forces, also by indiscriminate use of pellet guns.

http://www.tribune.com.pk/story/116...nce-ruined-indian-stance-ajk-salman-khurshid/

Finally ,,,,,,Modi admitted , what Pakistani failed to do internationally ..Modi did it............lolz

 

[RPK]

Trust me, no one , I repeat no one in Pakistan gives a fu**.

That's why world don't give a fu** what Pakistan says about Kashmir

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

pls take up palestine issue "aggressively" as well!

 

[The Sandman]

Check at 26:00...The shocking racist mentality of this pathetic guy is in the open. What a low life is this guy? With this thinking I am afraid Balouch will soon their independence.

Check @16:00 stop oppressing your Muslims or I'm afraid they soon will be forced to get Independence see how this clown starts shouting at him

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

interesting......
http://www.thetower.org/baloch-nationalists-take-on-iran-and-pakistan-vow-close-ties-with-israel/#

 

[DesiGuy1403]

Check @16:00 stop oppressing your Muslims or I'm afraid they soon will be forced to get Independence see how this clown starts shouting at him

I am amazed that people who have ruled India for centuries still think they are the ones oppressed!
Oh how I wish we go through Mughal history and learn who oppressed whom and who destroyed lakhs of temples and massacred millions of Hindus.

Only sick minds can come up weird theory of oppression all the while committing genocide on other side. The Jihadi's have been exposed. No where else to run now...No one believes your lies, no one backs your claims and frankly no one cares if these jihadis are killed like vermin...

At this point, Humans are frankly tired of the atrocities committed by these vermin and we just wish they stop existing. In fact most of the people of this world would applaud if some one puts these Jihadi terrorists out of their misery at once.

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

Sunday, September 24, 2006
WASHINGTON, D.C. – On Friday, President of the Baloch Society of North America (BSO-NA) Dr. Wahid Baloch phoned and congratulated His Highness Mir Suleman Dawood Khan, King of Balochistan, for summoning the grand meeting of all Baloch tribal chieftains.

“The Baloch Diaspora in the United States and Canada extend their full support to Your Highness,” Dr. Baloch said.
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Also::
http://www.newscentralasia.net/2011...e-mystery-of-balochistan-insurgency-part-one/

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Nuclear flash point for you not for us as we don't consider it a dispute.Jammu and Kashmir belong to us I.e India.If you are interested in these proxy wars then we would ve to answer you in same language as you don't understand the other way.Balochistan is for balochs and they are killed,raped,butchered,tortured from last 70 years.you cannot loot their resources and keep on suppressing them for too long now.

Balochistan banega khudmuktar.

Azad Kashmir belongs to us and balochistan is opressed that is the reason why we are talking about.do whatever you want to do in Sindh coz muhajirs are not safe in Karachi and data belongs to.afghanistan.

You can claim whole Pakistan and make yourself laughing stock of yourselves in front of world......Pakistan won't back off from his stance that Kashmiris should determine their future not Indians. Our stance is on principle while yours is just to piss of Pakistan (for the sake of argument, claiming whole Pakistan, ridiculously, actually funny as hell).

Keep this in mind.......

BY KILLING BURHAN WANI....U HAVE ANGERED KASHMIRI YOUTH........KASHMIR WON'T ALLOW YOU TO LOOK ANY FURTHER.....THEY WON'T SIT ON THEIR ASSES UNLESS THEY GET THEIR AZADI.....

Coming from Muhajir, Karachiite.....Indian Muslims will demand freedom too after Kashmiris getting their independence, then sikhs, then christians of north east states of India, Manipur, nagaland, asaam, jhaarkund.....you just name it...

 

[Musafir117]

Former Indian External Affairs minister Salman Khurshid has criticised Indian Prime Minister for making a reference of ‘atrocities’ in Balochistan in his Independence Day address.


In his annual speech to the nation on Monday, Narendra Modi accused Pakistan of committing human rights violations in Balochistan and Azad Jammu and Kashmir.

Last week, Modi had accused Pakistan of fomenting trouble in held Kashmir, warning that it would have to answer for ‘rights violations’ in Balochistan and Azad Kashmir.

Balochistan terms Modi’s remarks confession of Indian meddling in province

“Is Balochistan a part of India? Doesn’t India believe in Panchsheel? Is it not a departure from that,” the Congressman asked in an interview hours after Modi’s speech.

“By raising Balochistan, he said, the government is ruining its case on Azad Kashmir,” he added.

The Panchsheel is referred in India as Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence, forming the virtues of the relationship between the former and the People’s Republic of China.

“We do this in private conversations… between diplomats and leaders… and convey our concerns. We don’t make these pronouncements as policy pronouncements,” Khurshid maintained.

Indian PM assails Pakistan in Independence Day address

The former foreign minister went on to add that no Indian premier had spoken about Balochistan from the ramparts of the Red Fort, warning there will be a fallout of the act.

However, the Congressman’s own Indian National Congress termed Khurshid’s stance his personal opinion, asserting that India should raise the ‘atrocities’ not just with Pakistan but also in the internationally.

Indian premier’s reference of Balochistan drew a blistering rebuke from PM Nawaz Sharif’s adviser on foreign policy on Monday who termed it a proof that New Delhi was fomenting terrorism in the volatile province.

Intelligence agencies arrested Kulbushan Yadav, an agent of Indian Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) while crossing into Balochistan from neighbouring Iran in March this year.

India ignoring Pakistan’s overtures for peace: Salman Khurshid

Yadav, a senior officer of the Indian navy, confessed in a subsequent video statement that RAW was stoking unrest in Pakistan, especially in Balochistan and Karachi.

The two nuclear-armed arch-rivals have been involved in a tense war of words on Indian atrocities in held Kashmir following the recent killing of a popular rebel Burhan Wani.

The situation has been deteriorating ever since as more than 60 unarmed protesters have been killed in the held valley at the hands of Indian security forces, also by indiscriminate use of pellet guns.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1163768...nce-ruined-indian-stance-ajk-salman-khurshid/

 

[Thorough Pro]

Pakistan is already a peace loving and peace promoting nation, its the Asian scum bharat that is a pain in every neighbour's ***.

Pakistan had its chance at "peace" when Congress was in power. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was always clear about his intentions to negotiate all issues with Pakistan..then Mumbai happened...and that ship sailed.

 

[DesiGuy1403]

BY KILLING BURHAN WANI....U HAVE ANGERED KASHMIRI YOUTH........KASHMIR WON'T ALLOW YOU TO LOOK ANY FURTHER.....THEY WON'T SIT ON THEIR ASSES UNLESS THEY GET THEIR AZADI.....

LOLZ...The only thing these Wahabi terrorists are getting is a pellet or a bullet, depending on whether they pick up a rock or a gun.

Frankly no one cares if this Jihadi filth dies, except people who support terrorists..

So, these terrorists can keep shouting azadi but the world knows what they have done to Pandits, Hindus, Sikhs and Shias...that's the reason they will die and no one will care.

Let me assure you, we will exterminate these vermin and won't loose sleep over it.

 

[cloud4000]

Pakistan is already a peace loving and peace promoting nation, its the Asian scum bharat that is a pain in every neighbour's ***.

If you say so. This is why it's so admired and respected all over the world. This is why you are loved by Afghanistan and Iran.