Modi to meet all SAARC leaders but PM Nawaz: Indian official

[xyxmt]

Thats a welcome change from Pakistan that it does not want Kashmir. Its a great diplomatic victory for India to be able to penetrate the minds of Pakistanis that Kashmir is not needed by them. Now, we would like Pakistanis to believe that terrorism is bad for humanity and it should be wiped out from the earth. Kashmiris in India are doing great and they showed it by voting in large numbers in the first phase of assembly elections.

so you only read the first sentence

 

[xyxmt]

1- you cant take it by force.
2- 70% voting in J&K, is that you were trying to say?
3- you have shown them nothing but how to die and rest in pieces in unnamed graves.

and you got freedom from British by sitting around swimming pools?

 

[Dalit]

He should send another crate of mangoes and some new sarees for Modi's wife this time.

Exacty. Especially some more sarees. I'm sure Modi will like that gesture.

1- you cant take it by force.
2- 70% voting in J&K, is that you were trying to say?
3- you have shown them nothing but how to die and rest in pieces in unnamed graves.

And what did you teach the Kashmiris? How to rape their women and daughters? How to kill their sons? Don't point with fingers as ten will be pointed towards you. If Pakistan is guilty of crimes so is India.

Who says that Pakistan wants to take Kashmir by force? What are you smoking? Your government isn't even willing to talk about Kashmir. All disputes are resolved through negotiations. You think that you have some moral authority or high ground in the conflict of Kashmir? Think again. Unless you don't talk, Kashmir will remain unresolved. That also means that the relation between Pakistan and India will remain tense. It isn't rocket science.

 

[kbd-raaf]

Exacty. Especially some more sarees. I'm sure Modi will like that gesture.



And what did you teach the Kashmiris? How to rape their women and daughters? How to kill their sons? Don't point with fingers as ten will be pointed towards you. If Pakistan is guilty of crimes so is India.

Who says that Pakistan wants to take Kashmir by force? What are you smoking? Your government isn't even willing to talk about Kashmir. All disputes are resolved through negotiations. You think that you have some moral authority or high ground in the conflict of Kashmir? Think again. Unless you don't talk, Kashmir will remain unresolved. That also means that the relation between Pakistan and India will remain tense. It isn't rocket science.

Pakistan doesn't want to, because it can't.

India will talk about Kashmir once cross border terrorism and militancy stops. As well as as ceasefire violations.

With relation to Pakistan, India is a status-quo power. Therefore the onus is Pakistan to act to meet these requirements.

 

[Echo_419]

and you got freedom from British by sitting around swimming pools?

We certainly didn't got it by using AKs

 

[A.M.]

 

[he-man]

I think every Indian is as naive as Modi in foreign policy. Pakistan does not need Kashmir, Pakistan want India to loose Kashmir and Pakistan has no intention to take Kashmir by force anymore as Kashmiris are doing a great job themselves now since we have shown them a way. What Pakistan needs is India to come back to table which will prove to the world that India admits Kashmir is an issue and this will negate their stance that Kashmir is not an issue. Pakistan knows talk wont solve Kashmir issue but that's not the point here, took me a while to understand why Pakistan wants India to come back to talks

I am sure u meant capability.

 

[Dalit]

Thats a welcome change from Pakistan that it does not want Kashmir. Its a great diplomatic victory for India to be able to penetrate the minds of Pakistanis that Kashmir is not needed by them. Now, we would like Pakistanis to believe that terrorism is bad for humanity and it should be wiped out from the earth. Kashmiris in India are doing great and they showed it by voting in large numbers in the first phase of assembly elections.

Don't get chuffed up. One member of this forum doesn't represent 200 million Pakistanis. Heck, he doesn't even represent the Pakistani members on this forum. He only represents himself. You haven't penetrated any mind. It's just wishful thinking on your part like it always has been.

Kashmiris in India/Pakistan seek to unite. They don't care about dick measuring contests between India/Pakistan. Get that through your skull. No one can or should impose anything on the Kashmiris on both sides. The only goal should be to unite the Kashmiris and stop the demilitarization of this area. That way peace can also be achieved between India and Pakistan. There's no other solution as both countries will never give up their part of Kashmir.

 

[Dalit]

I am sure u meant capability.

That's what you're making out of it.

 

[he-man]

That's what you're making out of it.

U don't believe it?

 

[kurup]

Don't get chuffed up. One member of this forum doesn't represent 200 million Pakistanis. Heck, he doesn't even represent the Pakistani members on this forum. He only represents himself. You haven't penetrated any mind. It's just wishful thinking on your part like it always has been.

Kashmiris in India/Pakistan seek to unite. They don't care about dick measuring contests between India/Pakistan. Get that through your skull. No one can or should impose anything on the Kashmiris on both side. The only goal should be to unite the Kashmiris and stop the demilitarization of this area. That way peace can also be achieved by India and Pakistan. There's no other solution as both countries will never give up their part of Kashmir.

We are doing exactly that ......

 

[xyxmt]

I am sure u meant capability.

neither do, one had the capability to take 1/3rd at one time, other didnt even have the capability to take that back

 

[he-man]

neither do, one had the capability to take 1/3rd at one time, other didnt even have the capability to take that back

Come to reality

 

[Dalit]

Pakistan doesn't want to, because it can't.

India will talk about Kashmir once cross border terrorism and militancy stops. As well as as ceasefire violations.

With relation to Pakistan, India is a status-quo power. Therefore the onus is Pakistan to act to meet these requirements.

What are you? A fortune-teller? What has happened in the past is regrettable. That can be said for both sides. Both India and Pakistan have used excessive means to achieve their goals. Both have failed in my opinion. Common sense dictates that both nations address this conflict through a dialogue that above all includes the wishes of the Kashmiris!

How about India stop supporting and arming militants in Balochistan against the state of Pakistan? How about India stop aiding terrorists trained in Afghan consulates? Ceasefire violations happen on both sides so let's not make it a one way street. Perhaps this tit for tat can than come to a halt.

India can only wish that it's a status-quo power. With regards to Kashmir no side has any edge or advantage. Only a dialogue on an equal basis will resolve this conflict. Everything else is irrelevant.

 

[kbd-raaf]

What are you? A fortune-teller? What has happened in the past is regrettable. That can be said for both sides. Both India and Pakistan have used excessive means to achieve their goals. Both have failed in my opinion. Common sense dictates that both nations address this conflict through a dialogue that above all includes the wishes of the Kashmiris!

How about India stop supporting and arming militants in Balochistan against the state of Pakistan? How about India stop aiding terrorists trained in Afghan consulates? Ceasefire violations happen on both sides so let's not make it a one way street. Perhaps this tit for tat can than come to a halt.

India can only wish that it's a status-quo power. With regards to Kashmir no side has any edge or advantage. Only a dialogue on an equal basis will resolve this conflict. Everything else is irrelevant.

Nope. Stop equating India and Pakistan. India has systematically achieved all of it's strategic goals. Not through any displays of brilliance but only by virtue of momentum. Call it thermodynamic equilibrium .

And, no. India will continue to do whatever is in it's interest, even if that constitutes being a complete hypocrite. All nation states are hypocrites, perception is what matters. India is a lot better at this militant supporting business. Little to no blowback (except in the case of the LTTE). Internationally India is perceived as the victim, regardless of whether this is true or not.

I think you may be confused as to the definition of a status quo power. India has nothing to gain from solving the Kashmir problem, Pakistan does.