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SU-35 + Pakistani Pilot = Total destruction of IAF and Complete Air Superiority.

Well any twin engine jet can be handy for PAF against Indian Rafales.

ALLAH bless our brave and skilled pilots for bringing honor to our country by achieving such success in the battlefield.
Both these JF-17 pilots have surely cemented their names among the Great MM.Alam and Sattar Alvi of PAF. :-)
 
After Allah Almighty, we should silently thank Yankees for the recent successes of PAF (TPS77, Vera-E, Aim120, F16, ALQ Jammers,...). Please do not forget our AF was and still organized along the lines of USAF, and we still have alot of doctrinal commonalities.

Only If I may, could I suggest to mend ties with Americans and try to do as much strategic bargaining as possible. The only real solution to Rafale + S400 combo, in my opinion, is this

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JF-17 is a Chinese/Pak made jet and look how capable that machine has become even though it is a light weight jet but going two to two with a SU-30 MKI is mind boggling, we don't need a reliance on American weapon systems, we our selves have already proven that, we can continue to evolve our air force doctrines and incorporate with any modern weapon system without the American limitations.

If we can do it with the JF-17 then we can do it with any other modern jet in the market and make it our own, it can be done.
 
Bro, I am really dissapointed by the diplomatic (non)support of China during the current crisis. At least they could have shown a bit more tilt towards us.

I think, Turks should be our main avenue for the western hi tech weapons and training support of our armed forces. Also just in the selfish self interest, we should try to get back in touch with Americans. They are, and will be the master of military tech for the foreseeable future. Its really unfortunate that our interests came on a collision course some time after 9/11. But we, just for the sake of Pakistan's interest, if not for any bon-homie, should try to get in terms with Yankees and bargain as hard we can.

Well, these are my thoughts based on the recent developments, both on military and diplomatic fronts.

It should be both

Between Turkey and China we have two avenues for weapons purchase, development and support

China is a world power and it is not going to sound out eternal statements of love towards anyone including Pakistan, that is just emotional nonsense

But it has given us fundamental and strategic support in the recent conflict

Turkey and China are both important to us
 
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Bro, I am really dissapointed by the diplomatic (non)support of China during the current crisis. At least they could have shown a bit more tilt towards us.

I think, Turks should be our main avenue for the western hi tech weapons and training support of our armed forces. Also just in the selfish self interest, we should try to get back in touch with Americans. They are, and will be the master of military tech for the foreseeable future. Its really unfortunate that our interests came on a collision course some time after 9/11. But we, just for the sake of Pakistan's interest, if not for any bon-homie, should try to get in terms with Yankees and bargain as hard we can.

Well, these are my thoughts based on the recent developments, both on military and diplomatic fronts.
Recognizing Israel like turkey and Egypt will also open latest weapon doors on Pakistan. They are Champs in this field electronic warfare jammers missiles and radars.

It should be both

Between Turkey and China we have to avenues for weapons purchase, development and support

China is a world power and it is not going to sound out eternal statements of love towards anyone including Pakistan, that is just emotional nonsense

But it has given us fundamental and strategic support in the recent conflict

Turkey and China are both important to us
thankful to friendly country against Indian navy plans against Karachi.
 
PM Modi said that when the world is standing behind India's fight against terror, some parties are questioning it.
News18.com


New Delhi: Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Saturday took on the opposition over the issue of air strikes on terror camps in Pakistan, saying that the entire country is feeling the absence of Rafale fighter jet aircraft.


https://www.news18.com/news/politic...modi-amid-tensions-with-pakistan-2053633.html
NOT just moody Arun jately also said if we had Rafael we would not need to cross LOC and target camps behind loc remember same guy who said that India now can and must do bin laden like op in bahawalpur in india today conclave I think BJP was fooled by IAF and they are really pissed off over performance of IAF against PAF and also not to face wrath of pak by crossing LOC I really feel sorry for Indian media and ex Indian armed forces experts who were claiming victory after surgical strike 2.0.
 
this single statement shows india lack of confidence in capabilities of su 30 and further supports our narrative of shooting down su 30 by f16. most likely they recovered the piece of amraam from the wreckage of su 30

Why does it have to be F-16s? JF-17 Thunders are armed with BVR too.
 
Hence, Pakistan needs to go for the J-20,or J-31. Or perhaps use Chinese expertise in designing a 5th generation Pakistani fighter jet.

Pakistan needs to invest in more Air Defence capabilities. The fact that these Indian planes penetrated 60km into Pakistani Air Space is very concerning.

Our Pilots are among the best in the world so its not surprising that we shot down 2 Indian Jets. But how the hell were they able to penetrate so deep into Pakistan.

We need S-400 Type Missile System to shoot them down well before they ever penetrate that deep into Pakistan.
 
Pakistan needs to invest in more Air Defence capabilities. The fact that these Indian planes penetrated 60km into Pakistani Air Space is very concerning.

Our Pilots are among the best in the world so its not surprising that we shot down 2 Indian Jets. But how the hell were they able to penetrate so deep into Pakistan.

We need S-400 Type Missile System to shoot them down well before they ever penetrate that deep into Pakistan.




Perhaps a bigger deployment of HQ-9? A modifed version? The current capabalities are similar to that of S-300.
 
Pakistan needs to invest in more Air Defence capabilities. The fact that these Indian planes penetrated 60km into Pakistani Air Space is very concerning.

Our Pilots are among the best in the world so its not surprising that we shot down 2 Indian Jets. But how the hell were they able to penetrate so deep into Pakistan.

We need S-400 Type Missile System to shoot them down well before they ever penetrate that deep into Pakistan.
Air defense systems often deploy in important areas. Putting them near the border is unsafe since Indians may destroy them by sending troops on foot.
 
Perhaps a bigger deployment of HQ-9? A modifed version? The current capabalities are similar to that of S-300.
Pakistan air defense capabilities are not more than 26k while advanced fighters can take out any target with precision guided system even from 40k feet.Currently you best bet is fighter jets not Sam.

S300 or any thing similar need of the hour demand China to share more long range Sam.

I think India very soon will get S300 from Russia it will make India almost invincible against any aireal threat in future including missiles.

 
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But but wasn't the mighty 2nd most advanced fighter jet (after F-22 according to vegies) Su-30 MKI Enough??? :o::o:
yes it is but it cannot maintain itself nor can it go on raids by its own self.

If you all thought Pakistani politicians, police and people were corrupt then you have not met or known many Indians. one thing they excel at is corruption, money laundering and manipulation of stats, if anything they can beat anyone at is stealing funds, zardari, B. Bhutto and Sharif bros are amateurs in front of them.
 

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