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Modi Has No One To Blame But Himself For The Successful Khan-Trump Summit

Thanks for the post, whoever wrote it. I am slapping and spamming every indian news page i can find just to further rub it in and rile up the gangus who have surly chimped out as a result of indias god Trump's meeting with PMIK. Its actually a bitch slap on the face of both the patwaris and gangus who mysteriously get excited and angry at identical things.

Can we make this a sticky thread or whatever, you know just to further rub it in?
 
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Modi disastrously bungled India’s famous policy of so-called “non-alignment” over the past year and ensured that the summit between Pakistani Prime Minister Khan and US President Trump was an unprecedented success in changing the strategic chessboard in South Asia.

Afghanistan, Trade, And Kashmir

All of Eurasia is still trying to process the grand strategic implications of what just took place on Monday during Pakistani Prime Minister Khan’s unprecedentedly successful summit with US President Trump, which saw the American leader praise his counterpart for “extricating” the Pentagon from Afghanistan, committing to invest even more in the South Asian state, and even surprisingly offering to mediate the ongoing Kashmir Conflict. Each of these three main components of their partnership — the military, economic, and political — have been supercharged like never before, thus suddenly changing the strategic chessboard in South Asia.

India lost the War on Afghanistan and won’t be able to turn the landlocked country into its “strategic depth” springboard for scaling up the Hybrid War on CPEC, especially not after it has to contend with the fact that its American military-strategic ally intends to become an indirect de-facto stakeholder in this flagship project of China’s Belt & Road Initiative (BRI) through its promised Pakistani investments. The “if you can’t beat ’em, join ’em” attitude that America is taking towards CPEC naturally inclines it to mediate the Kashmir Conflict in order to ensure the long-term success of this initiative, representing a major strategic defeat for India.

Making A Fool Out Of Modi

But therein lies one of the most curious reactions to the Khan-Trump Summit, and it’s that India denied that Modi requested the American leader to diplomatically intervene like Trump said he did. It could be that Modi really did “betray India’s interests” like the opposition claims happened, or it might just be the case that Trump wanted to put pressure on him to welcome the US’ involvement in Kashmir while simultaneously humiliating the Indian leader as clever vengeance for the “hard ball” that he’s playing with America regarding trade and the S-400s.

Whatever the truth may be, one thing is certain, and it’s that none of this would have even been possible had Modi not disastrously bungled India’s famous policy of so-called “multi-alignment” over the past year, which laid the basis for the Pakistani-American rapprochement. The US had previously assumed that its military-strategic alliance with India was proceeding smoothly due to their shared interests in “containing” China, but then Modi blatantly tried to extract more benefits from Trump by attempting to play America against China & Russia, which instantly destroyed the nascent trust that was building between the two leaders.

Losing The “Golden Opportunity”

Modi had the “golden opportunity” last year to ensure India’s lasting alliance with the US had he accepted his country’s junior partner status and took the deal that was on offer at the time, which was speculated to have involved New Delhi rejecting Moscow’s S-400s in exchange for Washington’s analogous air-defense systems as well as distancing itself from Beijing. Lo and behold, however, Modi proceeded with the missile deal and flirted with the possibility of enhancing trade relations with the People’s Republic while meeting with President Xi during the G20, which flew in the face of the spirit of the US-Indian alliance.

That’s not to say that India was serious about pivoting towards both Eurasian Great Powers, but just that it was too obvious to the US that New Delhi was trying to exploit its relations with Moscow and Beijing as leverage to ultimately get a better deal from Washington. Indian strategists terribly misread Trump, who earned his riches in the cutthroat industry of New York real estate, and didn’t think that he’d react the way that he did by intensifying pressure on their country and asking for even more from them than before. Had they followed America’s recently troubled relations with Russia and China, however, they’d have known how he operates.

Trump’s Modus Operandi

Trump’s modus operandi is to make an offer to his counterparts that’s tilted towards the US’ favor (seeing as how he’s negotiating from what he believes to be a position of strength) and then worsen the terms concurrent with putting even more pressure on them than ever before if they reject the original offer. This in turn creates an unpredictable situation that “The Kraken” (“the agent of chaos”) masterfully manipulates to his country’s advantage by exploiting the opportunity to reshape the strategic situation at his rivals’ expense, thus leading to a far-reaching revision of the status quo that more often than not ends up being to the US’ benefit.

The only recourse that Russia and China have if they want to stop this process in the event that they can’t successfully guide it in the direction of their own interests (a feat that’s much easier said than done considering that the US controls the chaotic dynamics) is to enact a series of “face-saving” concessions under the euphemism of reaching a so-called “New Detente” or “trade deal“. Those two aforementioned Great Powers have much more resilience than India, however, and are also more or less aligned in their strategic visions too, which is why their leaders can hold out longer in trying to resist Trump’s pressure than Modi can.

The Worst Time To Play “Hard Ball”

For as much as India made a big Bollywood show out of its recently reinvigorated relations with Russia and China, it drastically reduced its share of Russian weapons purchases by 42% over the past decade and remains adamantly opposed to BRI on the basis that CPEC runs through Pakistani territory that New Delhi claims as its own per its maximalist approach to the Kashmir Conflict. It’s already gone too far with American and “Israeli” arms imports to reverse the ongoing trend, and the US just beat out China to become India’s top trading partner, yet India wants to play “hard ball” at the exact moment when it’s most dependent on the US.

The only reason that this is happening is because Modi disastrously bungled India’s “balancing” act, while PM Khan executed his country’s own with the utmost perfection in order to become the global pivot state, a position that no one could reasonably doubt after Pakistan proved that it’s capable of proactively maintaining excellent relations with all relevant Great Powers without them being at the expense of one or the other. India’s “multi-alignment”, meanwhile, is always reactive and aimed against an implied third party, which defeats this policy’s very purpose and defiles the art of diplomacy.

Pakistan Pioneers The Proper “Balancing” Policy

Pakistan, having much more experience working with the US, understood exactly what Trump’s modus operandi was right away and therefore swiftly worked to advance the joint goal of brokering peace in Afghanistan once America signaled it was ready in order to relieve the Hybrid War pressure that was previously placed upon it. That was a refreshing surprise for the US since it had grown used to its rapprochement outreaches being rejected by Russia and China or taken advantage of by India in a naked attempt to get even more than what was originally offered, which explains why Trump took such an immediate personal liking to Prime Minister Khan.

There isn’t much that India can do about this either since it’s caught in a dilemma purely of Modi’s own making. The US, Russia, and China each know the dire situation that India is in, meaning that they’ll try to take maximum advantage of it depending on whichever one Modi turns to for relief from this predicament. Washington wants full capitulation on the military-economic fronts, while Moscow wants to regain its former standing in New Delhi’s arms market at Washington’s expense. Beijing, meanwhile, is eager to integrate India with BRI, which critics have warned could impede Modi’s signature “Make in India” industrialization plans.

Concluding Thoughts

India intended to be the “friend of all”, but ultimately ended up being trusted by none at all and made it vulnerable to being taken advantage of by everyone after Modi bungled its “multi-alignment” policy. Pakistan, on the other hand, succeeded in every way that India failed by proving that its possible to maintain excellent relations with the US, Russia, and China without these bilateral partnerships coming at anyone’s expense. Instead of Pakistan being the one that’s “isolated” like India always loves to claim, it’s none other than India itself which has been relegated to this position, with there being nobody to blame for this debacle but Modi.

Modi hai tou mumkin hai! :partay:
 
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Modi disastrously bungled India’s famous policy of so-called “non-alignment” over the past year and ensured that the summit between Pakistani Prime Minister Khan and US President Trump was an unprecedented success in changing the strategic chessboard in South Asia.

Afghanistan, Trade, And Kashmir

All of Eurasia is still trying to process the grand strategic implications of what just took place on Monday during Pakistani Prime Minister Khan’s unprecedentedly successful summit with US President Trump, which saw the American leader praise his counterpart for “extricating” the Pentagon from Afghanistan, committing to invest even more in the South Asian state, and even surprisingly offering to mediate the ongoing Kashmir Conflict. Each of these three main components of their partnership — the military, economic, and political — have been supercharged like never before, thus suddenly changing the strategic chessboard in South Asia.

India lost the War on Afghanistan and won’t be able to turn the landlocked country into its “strategic depth” springboard for scaling up the Hybrid War on CPEC, especially not after it has to contend with the fact that its American military-strategic ally intends to become an indirect de-facto stakeholder in this flagship project of China’s Belt & Road Initiative (BRI) through its promised Pakistani investments. The “if you can’t beat ’em, join ’em” attitude that America is taking towards CPEC naturally inclines it to mediate the Kashmir Conflict in order to ensure the long-term success of this initiative, representing a major strategic defeat for India.

Making A Fool Out Of Modi

But therein lies one of the most curious reactions to the Khan-Trump Summit, and it’s that India denied that Modi requested the American leader to diplomatically intervene like Trump said he did. It could be that Modi really did “betray India’s interests” like the opposition claims happened, or it might just be the case that Trump wanted to put pressure on him to welcome the US’ involvement in Kashmir while simultaneously humiliating the Indian leader as clever vengeance for the “hard ball” that he’s playing with America regarding trade and the S-400s.

Whatever the truth may be, one thing is certain, and it’s that none of this would have even been possible had Modi not disastrously bungled India’s famous policy of so-called “multi-alignment” over the past year, which laid the basis for the Pakistani-American rapprochement. The US had previously assumed that its military-strategic alliance with India was proceeding smoothly due to their shared interests in “containing” China, but then Modi blatantly tried to extract more benefits from Trump by attempting to play America against China & Russia, which instantly destroyed the nascent trust that was building between the two leaders.

Losing The “Golden Opportunity”

Modi had the “golden opportunity” last year to ensure India’s lasting alliance with the US had he accepted his country’s junior partner status and took the deal that was on offer at the time, which was speculated to have involved New Delhi rejecting Moscow’s S-400s in exchange for Washington’s analogous air-defense systems as well as distancing itself from Beijing. Lo and behold, however, Modi proceeded with the missile deal and flirted with the possibility of enhancing trade relations with the People’s Republic while meeting with President Xi during the G20, which flew in the face of the spirit of the US-Indian alliance.

That’s not to say that India was serious about pivoting towards both Eurasian Great Powers, but just that it was too obvious to the US that New Delhi was trying to exploit its relations with Moscow and Beijing as leverage to ultimately get a better deal from Washington. Indian strategists terribly misread Trump, who earned his riches in the cutthroat industry of New York real estate, and didn’t think that he’d react the way that he did by intensifying pressure on their country and asking for even more from them than before. Had they followed America’s recently troubled relations with Russia and China, however, they’d have known how he operates.

Trump’s Modus Operandi

Trump’s modus operandi is to make an offer to his counterparts that’s tilted towards the US’ favor (seeing as how he’s negotiating from what he believes to be a position of strength) and then worsen the terms concurrent with putting even more pressure on them than ever before if they reject the original offer. This in turn creates an unpredictable situation that “The Kraken” (“the agent of chaos”) masterfully manipulates to his country’s advantage by exploiting the opportunity to reshape the strategic situation at his rivals’ expense, thus leading to a far-reaching revision of the status quo that more often than not ends up being to the US’ benefit.

The only recourse that Russia and China have if they want to stop this process in the event that they can’t successfully guide it in the direction of their own interests (a feat that’s much easier said than done considering that the US controls the chaotic dynamics) is to enact a series of “face-saving” concessions under the euphemism of reaching a so-called “New Detente” or “trade deal“. Those two aforementioned Great Powers have much more resilience than India, however, and are also more or less aligned in their strategic visions too, which is why their leaders can hold out longer in trying to resist Trump’s pressure than Modi can.

The Worst Time To Play “Hard Ball”

For as much as India made a big Bollywood show out of its recently reinvigorated relations with Russia and China, it drastically reduced its share of Russian weapons purchases by 42% over the past decade and remains adamantly opposed to BRI on the basis that CPEC runs through Pakistani territory that New Delhi claims as its own per its maximalist approach to the Kashmir Conflict. It’s already gone too far with American and “Israeli” arms imports to reverse the ongoing trend, and the US just beat out China to become India’s top trading partner, yet India wants to play “hard ball” at the exact moment when it’s most dependent on the US.

The only reason that this is happening is because Modi disastrously bungled India’s “balancing” act, while PM Khan executed his country’s own with the utmost perfection in order to become the global pivot state, a position that no one could reasonably doubt after Pakistan proved that it’s capable of proactively maintaining excellent relations with all relevant Great Powers without them being at the expense of one or the other. India’s “multi-alignment”, meanwhile, is always reactive and aimed against an implied third party, which defeats this policy’s very purpose and defiles the art of diplomacy.

Pakistan Pioneers The Proper “Balancing” Policy

Pakistan, having much more experience working with the US, understood exactly what Trump’s modus operandi was right away and therefore swiftly worked to advance the joint goal of brokering peace in Afghanistan once America signaled it was ready in order to relieve the Hybrid War pressure that was previously placed upon it. That was a refreshing surprise for the US since it had grown used to its rapprochement outreaches being rejected by Russia and China or taken advantage of by India in a naked attempt to get even more than what was originally offered, which explains why Trump took such an immediate personal liking to Prime Minister Khan.

There isn’t much that India can do about this either since it’s caught in a dilemma purely of Modi’s own making. The US, Russia, and China each know the dire situation that India is in, meaning that they’ll try to take maximum advantage of it depending on whichever one Modi turns to for relief from this predicament. Washington wants full capitulation on the military-economic fronts, while Moscow wants to regain its former standing in New Delhi’s arms market at Washington’s expense. Beijing, meanwhile, is eager to integrate India with BRI, which critics have warned could impede Modi’s signature “Make in India” industrialization plans.

Concluding Thoughts

India intended to be the “friend of all”, but ultimately ended up being trusted by none at all and made it vulnerable to being taken advantage of by everyone after Modi bungled its “multi-alignment” policy. Pakistan, on the other hand, succeeded in every way that India failed by proving that its possible to maintain excellent relations with the US, Russia, and China without these bilateral partnerships coming at anyone’s expense. Instead of Pakistan being the one that’s “isolated” like India always loves to claim, it’s none other than India itself which has been relegated to this position, with there being nobody to blame for this debacle but Modi.

Congratulations to Pakistan !

Was any bilateral agreement, strategic treaty, social cultural economic pact or MOU signed ?

Please share the detail. We would love to know it and discuss it's implications.
 
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Maat cheer issay tejas_spokeman ki tarah gaib na ho jaye. Really missing his indiotic posts.Do u know the tragedy happened to him ???
awww kitna cutee!
 
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India’s “multi-alignment”, meanwhile, is always reactive and aimed against an implied third party, which defeats this policy’s very purpose and defiles the art of diplomacy.
that is the biggest problem of indian failure, their Pakistan obsession, every thing in india is based on Pakistan hatred.

Imran Khan Reverses 20 Years of Poor Relations With The US
Written by Adam Garrie on 2019-07-23

It was easily foreseeable that Imran Khan and Donald Trump would develop a good personal rapport once they got the opportunity to meet in person. For Trump ,the personal is political and as such, dynamic, unique and charismatic leaders appeal to him over the bland, technocratic and uninspiring. For this reason alone it was assured that at the very minimum Donald Trump and Imran Khan would have an initially positive discussion. But even this upbeat anticipation was ill-preparation for the blossoming of a visibly joyous personal relationship forged under very difficult geopolitical conditions.

Just as PTI’s 2018 general election victory swept away the old dynastic parties from power, so too did Trump’s election victory sweep away two of America’s most infamous political dynasties – that of the Bush family and that of the Clinton family. Beyond this, both men have enjoyed glamour and fame outside of politics before entering the political fray. This helped set the stage for a meeting in which Trump largely cast off decades of mistrust that had brewed between Washington and Islamabad as a product of Trump’s predecessors (men that Trump has frequently criticised) as well as Imran Khan’s predecessors.

This helped to wipe a dirty slate clean and set the stage for the two leaders getting down to business in a realistic yet personally genial atmosphere. For Trump, there was no talk of the internal situation in Pakistan but instead he focused on Pakistan’s vital role in ending America’s Soviet style Afghan quagmire (a point that both Trump and his sometimes opponent Lindsey Graham now concede) whilst Trump also spoke of his businesslike desire to increase bilateral trade. Increased trade between the US and Pakistan would ultimately be better than the US “aid” of previous years that Trump admitted was paltry during his joint press conference with Imran Khan. A Pakistan-US relationship based on trust, trade and realism would not only create more sustainable economic opportunities but would allow Pakistan’s dignity to remain intact in a way that would represent the antithesis of that which transpired during the Bush and Obama years.

A very important moment occurred when Trump offered to mediate in the Kashmir catastrophe – an offer that Imran Khan accepted with grace and dignity. Making matters more intriguing was the fact that Trump stated that Indian Premier Modi had asked him to mediate in Kashmir when the two met at the recent G20 summit in Japan. However, hours after Trump’s remark was made, New Delhi denied that Modi had made such a request.

It was at that moment that Imran Khan was given a geopolitical gift by the hand of circumstance. Just as Pakistan’s new face was wooing crowds in Washington and smiling beside Donald Trump who presented Imran Khan with the clearly well-planned gift of a bespoke cricket bat, India had crossed a major red-line in the book in “how to do diplomacy with Donald Trump”.

By stating that Modi had not asked Trump to mediate in Kashmir, the Indian government was calling the US President a liar. Not only is this poor form in general terms but in terms of dealing with Donald Trump, it is highly toxic. As someone who values personal trust, loyalty and good humour in fellow national leaders, Trump will clearly be insulted by the fact that a partner country to the US has officially challenged his honesty. Only Donald Trump and Narendra Modi know what was said during their conversation(s) at the G20, but to insinuate that the US President had lied in public was not only poor diplomacy but when saying such things about Donald Trump – it essentially amounts to shooting one’s self in the foot.

Beyond this, India’s statement only made Imran Khan look like the good guy in the eyes of the world and by Indian standards, making any Pakistani leader look good is something of a taboo. Imran Khan’s gracious response to Trump and his highly elegant statements about the American position in the world were a masterclass in diplomacy that have already begun to change American perceptions about Pakistan including among the influential Fox News demographic. By contrast, India’s statement amounted to a rejection of a possibly fruitful peace process and an endorsement of a status quo that the UN itself regards as totally unacceptable.

In this sense, whilst Imran Khan moved diplomatic mountains by blowing away the cobwebs of two misspent decades of a grim Pakistan-US relationship, India did the rest of the work for him by countering Imran Khan’s grace with a statement that even if true was said in the wrong way and at the totally wrong time.

Overall, Pakistan and the US have a great deal of work cut out if relations are to fully reset, but just as Imran Khan has championed the win-win spirit of Belt and Road across much of the world, so too did he develop friendly relations with one of the most outspoken leaders of the 21st century.
 
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Maat cheer issay tejas_spokeman ki tarah gaib na ho jaye. Really missing his indiotic posts.Do u know the tragedy happened to him ???
yaar ya mods say intellectual insan (pun intended) burdash he nai hota isliye ban kar daytay hain!
 
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uses multiple ids incl firestorm7777 but real issue was something else.rem his job teja ko roz kapray marna?zor sy maar diya ek wing toot giya these days try to weld it back free hoty hi aa jayee ga jab tak iss namoonay republic sy guzarah karoo
yaar ya mods say intellectual insan (pun intended) burdash he nai hota isliye ban kar daytay hain!
 
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uses multiple ids incl firestorm7777 but real issue was something else.rem his job teja ko roz kapray marna?zor sy maar diya ek wing toot giya these days try to weld it back free hoty hi aa jayee ga jab tak iss namoonay republic sy guzarah karoo
indians keh bagyr pdf boring hai bhai! zarori hai delusional boys
 
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Only game allowed on PDF.iraniyo py halka sa bhi hath rakh dn saray mods khud jaaty hain unhain bachany no fun at all
iranians turn every discussion into battle of sects i stay away from them! indians well they are fun indians are like going to a zoo and watching beautiful baboon (no racist :p) performing his daily rituals!
 
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Do u forget that golden rule"""hathy ki aur hataooo """ ?
iranians turn every discussion into battle of sects i stay away from them! indians well they are fun indians are like going to a zoo and watching beautiful baboon (no racist :p) performing his daily rituals!
 
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Lol... I really like how Pakistanis bad mouths US one day and worships them another day !

What is even India's failure here that you guys are celebrating ? Gosh I would infact ask questions to my Prime Minister of he goes to a foreign visit about the deals he signed. Are you saying IK revived friendship between US and Pakistan ?? lol.. the same frendship that you never wanted OR the same friendship that you keep giving advice on to the Indians about how bad an ally that US is. Ok I understand Trump threw a bone by saying Modi asked him to mediate in Kahmir issue.. is that what you are celebrating ?

Oh someone also highlighted that India called Trump a liar by stating that Modi never told that to Trump..well let me take the lid off..let me actually tell you the butter truth about Modi which the Indians are now hiding... the truth is.... Modi never said that ! But hey you dont need to believ this ..cuz India is no more the India of 1999 that it will be scared of any sanctions. Trump is a spoiled king who loves making statement now and then. But is that Modi's failure that you are celebrating ?? lol.

Do enlighten us about the success of Pakistan though about this trip instead of your khayali puao of Modi's failure based on a personal blog.
 
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