Military of Ancient India

[mujhaidind]

UP and Bihari armies defeated everyone.

 

[Fattyacids]

Not really

It doesn't really matter. Indus Script until now is not clearly translated because of it's complicated written language with 600 different written symbols.

Which civilization developed without a language.

One is one, two is two, it does matter. Indus civilization has no link to vedic. Indus script cannot be deciphered, not that it's not clearly translated.

Hindu civilization in true sense only started around 500BC when aryans started to spread out all over current day India.

Strictly speaking, yes. Cities and dwelling started to develop around that era. Even today's Sanskrit was developed around 500BC, original Vedic Sanskrit was dead.

 

[haviZsultan]

@haviZsultan

There are varying pictures/ details of these different vyuhas. But we cannot really conform whether these 3500 year old vyuhas are accurate or not.. These vyuhas are also intermixed with mythologies existing in India. So it might have been altered over the years.

Vajra Vyuha ( in the shape of the thunderbolt)

Chakra shakata vyuha

Mandala Vyuha (Mandala - Circle)

Garuda vyuha - Eagle formation

Thanks for sharing. The pictures mostly show horse archers, lancers and chariots. I heard ancient nations in our region had strong horse archers. However horse archers are more of a Persian thing or are believed to have come from Persia.

 

[ghilzai]

Well there was certainly a massive emigration from the Persian plateau to N-W India which boarders with Persia. Most of these immigrants/ invaders got mixed with people already living there. These Indo- Iranians again spread to Northern & Central India. British and Max Muller twisted these facts into something which defies logic. He even included unrelated people like Germans into it.

How did he bring the Germans in to it?.

The use of elephants is not restricted to the Indians btw, Mughals, Ghilzais, Suris also used them.

I understand and know that but as I said there were tactics developed to counter the elephants, if you look at hannibals battle of Zama the war elephants were ineffective when facing tactical teams.

I am in no way disrespecting the military of Ancient Indian sub continent but it was never really effective despite having everything possible at its disposal.

 

[haviZsultan]

How did he bring the Germans in to it?.



I understand and know that but as I said there were tactics developed to counter the elephants, if you look at hannibals battle of Zama the war elephants were ineffective when facing tactical teams.

I heard Babur's history. Apparently during his rule of Kabul he did not have elephants. He countered the elephants with camels with their eyes ripped out. The horses too ran away from them.

Also do look at this:

War pig - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Established_1965]

What about Egyptians civilisation??

They had some of the best battle formation. Spears, bow and arrow are very famous in Ancient Egypt. Moreover, they had the fastest chariot those days!

 

[Kabira]

Which civilization developed without a language.

One is one, two is two, it does matter. Indus civilization has no link to vedic. Indus script cannot be deciphered, not that it's not clearly translated.



Strictly speaking, yes. Cities and dwelling started to develop around that era. Even today's Sanskrit was developed around 500BC, original Vedic Sanskrit was dead.

And true and proper hinduism only after Gupta empire.

 

[Established_1965]

I heard Babur's history. Apparently during his rule of Kabul he did not have elephants. He countered the elephants with camels with their eyes ripped out. The horses too ran away from them.

Also do look at this:

War pig - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

OMG!! he's such as as*****. Definitely, he must be a tyrant!

 

[haviZsultan]

UP and Bihari armies defeated everyone.

Historically our UP or Lucknow hasn't had much luck in terms of leadership. No local leadership emerged, rather the Afghans/Pashtuns dominated and came to settle in the region. Our own roots go back to Greater Pakhtunkhwa. Mughals were Timurid/ Mongol, Suris, Khiljis Durranis, Lodhis and Lohanis Pashtuns and the Tughluks turks. Ghorids and Ghaznavids are also Persian/Turks/Pashtuns.

RohillaKhand is a region named after the Rohillas, a fierce Pashtun tribe in that time. Fatehpur is also full of Pashtuns. These are parts of beautiful Islamic history.

OMG!! he's such as as*****. Definitely, he must be a tyrant!

He was as were almost all Timurids. In a battle he raised a mountain of skulls.

 

[ghilzai]

What about Egyptians civilisation??

They had some of the best battle formation. Spears, bow and arrow are very famous in Ancient Egypt. Moreover, they had the fastest chariot those days!

That is true but its purpose was to fight a war on the plains with enemy who also possessed heavy equipment, but they were no match for a war let's say with central Asians who travelled light on horse back and relied more on their bow and smash and move tactics.

 

[Shark2]

Warrior tribes were mostly settled in the NorthWest of the sub continent. Mostly in northern part of Sindh valley.

Anyone who could break through Sindh Valley had a straight shot all the way to Bengal.

Alexander couldn't break through Sindh valley, but many others did.

Yes there were soldiers from other parts, but not in numbers and strength from Punjab (pakistan and Indian) and KP areas of Peshwar and CharSaddah

This is doubtful considering the fact that Pakistan was for more than 2000 years under foreign rule and Pakistan
was never able to produce a great Empire in the past.
The most powerful Dynasties of ancient and medieval South Asia were established in eastern India and southern
India. And it was these people who successfully resisted foreign invasions.

 

[Kabira]

This is doubtful considering the fact that Pakistan was for more than 2000 years under foreign rule and Pakistan
was never able to produce a great Empire in the past.
The most powerful Dynasties of ancient and medieval South Asia were established in eastern India and southern
India. And it was these people who successfully resisted foreign invasions.

We can say India was also under foreign rule for 2500 years when aryans occupied most of India. We have to remember Indian civilization and empires are product of invading aryans who became to known as kashtriyas in hindu religion.

 

[Shark2]

We can say India was also under foreign rule for 2500 years when aryans occupied most of India. We have to remember Indian civilization and empires are product of invading aryans who became to known as kashtriyas in hindu religion.

There is no proof for that. And the oldest written records of Sanskrit language were only found in India
and no where else so its obvious that Sanskrit was developed in ancient India.

 

[Srinivas]

All these formations are infact war strategies.

It is amazing how some people deny Indian heritage and history!

@haviZsultan

There are varying pictures/ details of these different vyuhas. But we cannot really conform whether these 3500 year old vyuhas are accurate or not.. These vyuhas are also intermixed with mythologies existing in India. So it might have been altered over the years.

Vajra Vyuha ( in the shape of the thunderbolt)

Chakra shakata vyuha

Mandala Vyuha (Mandala - Circle)

Garuda vyuha - Eagle formation

 

[Kabira]

There is no proof for that. And the oldest written records of Sanskrit language were only found in India
and no where else so its obvious that Sanskrit was developed in ancient India.

There is no proof for insecure hindu but enough proof for rest of the world. Sanskrit was developed in ancient Pakistan, and the reason is they migrated from sttepe in to ancient Pakistan. You don't believe that central/peninsular Indians migrated to ancient Pakistan just to develop sanskrit right?