Military Balance of Turkish & Hellenic Air Forces in the Region

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They can have better equipment but I think the professionalism of the Turkish will save the day

Turkiye has better equipment quality and quantity ... Greece not even close


Greece is so weak and tiny ..
so easy to destroy Greek Navy , Jet Hangars , AD Systems in 24 hours

Turkish Armed Forces is in top 4 in NATO
( great urban and 4th gen hybrid warfare experience , great technology , defense industry , great fire power , perfect special forces and high disciplined brave soldiers )


Greece has only 25 PHZ-2000 Howitzers
Turkiye has its own 350+154 T-155 Howitzers

Greece has only 40 km R-70 unguided MLRS
Turkiye has its own 40-70-120 km TRLG-122 , TRLG-230 and TRG-300 guided MLRS

Greece has only 165 km ATACMS Tactical Ballistic Missile
Turkiye has its own 150-280-850 km YILDIRIM ,BORA and TUFAN Ballistic Missiles
Turkiye has also 165 km ATACMS Tactical Ballistic Missile

Greece has no Land based Cruise Missile
Turkiye has its own 280 km KARA-ATMACA based Cruise Missile

Greece has no Land based EW Systems
Turkiye has its own KORAL , REDET-II , VURAL , MILKAR-A3 , SANCAK Land based EW Systems

Greece has no 5th gen Anti-Tank Missile
Turkiye has its own OMTAS and KARAOK 5th gen Anti-Tank Missiles

Greece has no AESA Early Warning Radar
Turkiye has its own 600 km EIRS AESA Early Warning Radar

Greece has no UCAV fleet
Turkiye has its own 200+ TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs

Greece has no Air refueling Tanker
Turkiye has 7 Boeing KC-135 Air refueling Tankers

Greece has no Kamikaze Drone
Turkiye has its own SIMSEK and KARGI anti-radiation - Kamikaze Drones

Greece has 4 R-99 AEWCS
Turkiye has superior 4 Boeing E-7T AEWC

Greece has only 5 Anti-Submarine Warfare Aircrafts
Turkiye has 12 Anti-Submarine Warfare Aircrafts

Greece has no strategic transport Aircraft
Turkiye has 10 Airbus A400M strategic transport Aircrafts

Greece has only 23 transport Aircrafts
Turkiye has 84 transport Aircrafts

Greece has 90 SCALP air launched Cruise Missile
Turkiye has 400 SOM , SLAM-ER and POPEYE Cruise Missile

Greece has PATRIOT , S300 , TOR AD Systems
Turkiye has superior S400 , HISAR-0 , SIPER AD Systems

Greece has only 28 AH-64 Attack Helicopters
Turkiye has 83 T-129 and 10 AH-1W Super Cobra Attack Helicopters

Greece has 45 NH-90 and CHINOOK Utility Helicopters
Turkiye has 250+ Sikorsky Black Hawk ,CHINOOK and AS-532 Utility Helicopters


Greece has no Light Aircraft Carrier
Turkiye has TCG ANADOLU Light Aircraft Carrier

Greece has no Corvette
Turkiye has 4 ADA class stealth Corvette

Greece has 13 Frigates armed with 208 SAMs
Turkiye has 16 Frigates armed with 672 SAMs

even Iam not talking about upcoming Turkish military projects within 3 years

Greece buys 24 Rafales ... nothing else to threat against the Turkish Armed Forces

 

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Turkiye has better equipment quality and quantity ... Greece not even close


Greece is so weak and tiny ..
so easy to destroy Greek Navy , Jet Hangars , AD Systems in 24 hours

Turkish Armed Forces is in top 4 in NATO
( great urban and 4th gen hybrid warfare experience , great technology , defense industry , great fire power , perfect special forces and high disciplined brave soldiers )


Greece has only 25 PHZ-2000 Howitzers
Turkiye has its own 350+154 T-155 Howitzers

Greece has only 40 km R-70 unguided MLRS
Turkiye has its own 40-70-120 km TRLG-122 , TRLG-230 and TRG-300 guided MLRS

Greece has only 165 km ATACMS Tactical Ballistic Missile
Turkiye has its own 150-280-850 km YILDIRIM ,BORA and TUFAN Ballistic Missiles
Turkiye has also 165 km ATACMS Tactical Ballistic Missile

Greece has no Land based Cruise Missile
Turkiye has its own 280 km KARA-ATMACA based Cruise Missile

Greece has no Land based EW Systems
Turkiye has its own KORAL , REDET-II , VURAL , MILKAR-A3 , SANCAK Land based EW Systems

Greece has no 5th gen Anti-Tank Missile
Turkiye has its own OMTAS and KARAOK 5th gen Anti-Tank Missiles

Greece has no AESA Early Warning Radar
Turkiye has its own 600 km EIRS AESA Early Warning Radar

Greece has no UCAV fleet
Turkiye has its own 200+ TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs

Greece has no Air refueling Tanker
Turkiye has 7 Boeing KC-135 Air refueling Tankers

Greece has no Kamikaze Drone
Turkiye has its own SIMSEK and KARGI anti-radiation - Kamikaze Drones

Greece has 4 R-99 AEWCS
Turkiye has superior 4 Boeing E-7T AEWC

Greece has only 5 Anti-Submarine Warfare Aircrafts
Turkiye has 12 Anti-Submarine Warfare Aircrafts

Greece has no strategic transport Aircraft
Turkiye has 10 Airbus A400M strategic transport Aircrafts

Greece has only 23 transport Aircrafts
Turkiye has 84 transport Aircrafts

Greece has 90 SCALP air launched Cruise Missile
Turkiye has 400 SOM , SLAM-ER and POPEYE Cruise Missile

Greece has PATRIOT , S300 , TOR AD Systems
Turkiye has superior S400 , HISAR-0 , SIPER AD Systems

Greece has only 28 AH-64 Attack Helicopters
Turkiye has 83 T-129 and 10 AH-1W Super Cobra Attack Helicopters

Greece has 45 NH-90 and CHINOOK Utility Helicopters
Turkiye has 250+ Sikorsky Black Hawk ,CHINOOK and AS-532 Utility Helicopters


Greece has no Light Aircraft Carrier
Turkiye has TCG ANADOLU Light Aircraft Carrier

Greece has no Corvette
Turkiye has 4 ADA class stealth Corvette

Greece has 13 Frigates armed with 208 SAMs
Turkiye has 16 Frigates armed with 672 SAMs

even Iam not talking about upcoming Turkish military projects within 3 years

Greece buys 24 Rafales ... nothing else to threat against the Turkish Armed Forces

Greece is not same class with Turkiye thats why they begging help from poor germans and france also america but they wont help them only they use greeks as bait. They will be only lunch for us.

 

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Greece is not same class with Turkiye thats why they begging help from poor germans and france also america but they wont help them only they use greeks as bait. They will be only lunch for us.

Did you just say "poor Germans"?

 

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Upcoming Great A2/AD capability of the Turkish Armed Forces




S400 Air Defense System to block all Aegean against enemy Air Forces

250 km 48N6E3 Missile with speed of mach 5.9
380 km 40N6E Missile with speed of mach 3,5

600 km BIG BIRD Radar

36 Launchers with 192 missiles

SIPER Air Defense System

100 km SIPER Block-1
150 km SIPER Block-2

600 km AESA Radar

Hellenic Air Force can not cross the 25th meridian in the Agean

HISAR-A and HISAR-O Air Defense System to intercept Cruise Missiles

Ballistic Missiles - Cruise Missiles to hit Jet Hangars , Air Bases , Air Defense Systems in Greece and Greek Islands

280 km SOM air launched Cruise Missile
280 km SLAM-ER air launched Cruise Missile

500 SOM , POPEYE and SLAM-ER Cruise Missiles ....

KARA-ATMACA land based Cruise Missile

Range of 500 km with indigenous KTJ-3700 turbojet Engine

Network centric Warfare

TURAF 163 CCIP modernized F-16s to use 600 km Radar of Boeing E-7T AEWC to detect F-16V , Rafale from 350 km away

TURAF has 120 km AIM-120C7 networked air to air Missiles for BVR Combat

100+ km GOKDOGAN BVR Missile to carry by KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

Turkiye to buy 40 F-16V or Eurofighter

 

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ATMACA Coastal Defense System to block all Aegean against enemy Navies

Range : 250 km
Seeker : IIR

500 HARPOON and ATMACA Anti-Ship Missiles

150 km CAKIR and 180+ km KUZGUN-TJ Missiles to hit even moving Warships

Seeker : IIR , RF

KARGI Anti-Radiation Drone to hit Air Defense Systems

RF seeker
SATCOM
Data link

200 km SIMSEK and KARGI Kamikaze Drones with E/O Camera

BORA and TAYFUN Ballistic Missiles to hit all Air Bases in Greece

 

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12 Anti-Submarine Warfare Aircrafts to hunt enemy Submarines


6 CN-235
6 ATR-72

14 Hunter killer Submarines

8 Type-209
6 Type-214

to carry HARPOON and ATMACA anti-ship Missiles also AKYA heavyweight Torpedos

AKSUNGUR UCAVs for anti-Submarine Warfare

4 ADA class anti-submarine Corvettes

16 TUZLA class anti-submarine Boats

Simrad SP92 Mk II hull-mounted low frequency Sonar
Anti-Submarine warfare Rockets

Unmanned Vessels to carry Torpedos and Rockets for Anti-Submarine Warfare

 

[Valar.]

Greece is 8 times smaller country than Turkey and can still give a bloody nose to Turkey.

 

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KORAL , REDET-II Radar Electronic Warfare Systems and HAVASOJ stand off jammer Aircraft

F-16 Block70 Modernization

-- MURAD GaN based AESA Radar
-- SPEWS-II Electronic Warfare Suite
-- National long range IFF System
-- Link-16 data link

TCG ANADOLU to carry HURJET and KIZILELMA

 

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Greece is 8 times smaller country than Turkey and can still give a bloody nose to Turkey.

We have seen Greece in 1922 , 1974 and 1996
Greece is an ant in front of regional power Turkiye

even in the last war , when Turks were in their weakest period , Turks kicked Greeks+French+Armenians in 1922

Greeks came with dreams of capturing Anatolia from the Turks but ended up going back to Athens swimming


Greece is hidding behind USA-France and barking ... nothing else


on the other hand , since 2013
there were asymmetric-economic war between Turkiye and USA,France,Greece,Armenia,Egypt,The UAE,S.Arabia,HAFTAR,FETO,PKK/YPG in Turkiye,Iraq,Syria,Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean

Also Turkiye fought ISIS in Syria

Also Turkiye fought Russia backed SAA,IRGC and Hezbolah in Idlib/Syria


and Turkiye won everywhere

 

[Valar.]

Greece is hidding behind USA-France and barking ... nothing else

Those are Nato countries and Greece is a Nato member, so is Turkey. Both of you are Non nuclear countries and both of you hide behind Nuclear countries. Both of you bark. They bark once, you bark 8 times. Neither of you are going to war any time soon being Nato members. So, all this is just sabre rattling, nothing more, nothing less.

 

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Those are Nato countries and Greece is a Nato member, so is Turkey. Both of you are Non nuclear countries and both of you hide behind Nuclear countries. Both of you bark. They bark once, you bark 8 times. Neither of you are going to war any time soon being Nato members. So, all this is just sabre rattling, nothing more, nothing less.

Nuclear weapon is useless
we have seen this reality in Vietnam, Afghanistan and in Ukraine

USA,UK threatened Turkiye in 1974 , still Turkiye gave a lesson to Greeks in 1974

TURKS have no joke as in 1922,1974,1996
in 1995 Turkiye declared war ( CASUS BELLI ) , if Greece increase territorial water to 12 nm from 6nm in the Aegean


so dont bark here as a Chinese puppet ..

 

[Valar.]

Nuclear weapon is useless
we have seen this reality in Vietnam, Afghanistan and in Ukraine

so dont bark here as a Chinese puppet

Anything which Turkey does not have is useless, got it.

Anything which Turkey does not have is useless, got it.

Just remembered, Turkey does have Nuclear Umbrella by America. So, nukes not so useless afterall. lol

 

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Anything which Turkey does not have is useless, got it.

Nuclear super power USA sucked in Vietnam in 20 years

Nuclear super power Russia sucked in Afghanistan and Ukraine
nobody can use nuclear weapons

only poor undeveloped countries can dream with nuclear weapons

conventional military power rules the conflicts-wars since 1950s

Just remembered, Turkey does have Nuclear Umbrella by America. So, nukes not so useless afterall. lol

still dreaming with useless nuclear weapons

in a nuclear war , everbody will lose including USA and Russia

 

[Valar.]

still dreaming with useless nuclear weapons

I hope you don't dream about acquiring useless nuclear weapons. They are so so soooo useless.

How about ask America to stop giving you nuclear protection?

How about leaving security umbrella of NATO all together? lol

in a nuclear war , everbody will lose including USA and Russia

Only if both countries have nukes then it's MAD (mutually assured destruction).

But if one country has nukes and other does not and shit comes to shove, well, it's GAME OVER for that non nuclear country.

Don't worry, it won't happen to you. You are PROTECTED by Super Power America and its Nukes.

Good night, sweet dreams. Dreams are free. So dream up.

 

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I hope you don't dream about acquiring useless nuclear weapons. They are so so soooo useless.

How about ask America to stop giving you nuclear protection?

How about leaving security umbrella of NATO all together? lol

Russia can not use nuclear weapons against Ukraine ..
even Ukraine is not a NATO member and Ukraine doesnt have nuclear weapons

and in a nuclear war ,, nothing can stop Russian Missiles
so NATO and Russia will destroy each others


everybody will see what will happen between Pakistan and India in a war
conventional military power will rule the conflict

But if one country has nukes and other does not and shit comes to shove, well, it's GAME OVER for that non nuclear country.

as like Vietnam vs USA ?
as like Ukraine vs Russia ?

stop dreaming in your fantasy world and return to reality