Mention your tribal gods

[Mamsalaphala]

I said some dalits eat pork...not all dalits.. I also said some Hindus eat it.dalits are Hindus.

Well now that you have cleared it, let me enlighten you a bit.

Yellamma, Renuka, manasa, matangi are all the same goddess in Tantric worship. She was also the mother of Rishi Bhargava Rama also know as the deadly Parasuram.

It was her head Parasuram cut when his father Rishi Jamadagni commanded him to do so and she was restored again by Rishi Jamadagni when Parasuram asked him to do so as per the boon granted to him.

The goddess is also the patron goddess and protector of snakes, scorpions and all poisonous creatures. In earlier times anyone bit by a snake prayed to her to restore back health. Which is why another of her name is Nageswari.

If you find any of my comment regarding dalits offensive, I apologise unconditionally.. I have a great respect for those dalits who didn't convert in spite of facing so many humiliations inn the society.

...they are the unsung heroes of Hinduism.

 

[gau8av]

I'm not particularly religious, or from a tribal region but just got back from Himachal.. very interesting there, almost all big mountains seem to have a local deity associated, which I suspect are different forms of the mainstream goddesses.

Hidimba devi, jwalamukhi devi are 2 famous ones that come to mind but the whole of Himachal is dotted with these.

...they are the unsung heroes of Hinduism.

welcome back, you feeling allrite after yesterday's rampage ?

 

[Trichy]

Karuppu swamy means black God? Do you give animal sacrifices to him? Is he worshipped by higher castes? Who is Amman?

its not black god, its the family's fore father's is the correct definition of it.yes v give animal sacrifices and giving hairs, took lot of other devotional things too, amman is also a form of sakthi. it derived from saptha kannigal. every caste in tamil nadu have their family gods in form or karrupu sawmy and amman/ aatha (mom) with them.

i only believe in ancient concept of caste systems in our culture then whats v be now.

 

[Mamsalaphala]

I'm not particularly religious, or from a tribal region but just got back from Himachal.. very interesting there, almost all big mountains seem to have a local deity associated, which I suspect are different forms of the mainstream goddesses.

Hidimba devi, jwalamukhi devi are 2 famous ones that come to mind but the whole of Himachal is dotted with these.

They are few of the Shakti Peetha out of the total of 52 worshipped in India.

Eg. Jwalamukhi is where Sati's tongue fell.

welcome back, you feeling allrite after yesterday's rampage ?

All in a days work

 

[gau8av]

They are few of the Shakti Peetha out of the total of 51 worshipped in India.

Eg. Jwalamukhi is where Sati's tongue fell.

interesting, didn't know that.

they do have a thing for mountains, even non hindu tribal folk from the north east, buddhists etc, everyone has a mountain deity.

All in a days work

thoda relax karo, deep breathe, ommm

 

[Mamsalaphala]

interesting, didn't know that.

they do have a thing for mountains, even non hindu tribal folk from the north east, buddhists etc, everyone has a mountain deity.

thoda relax karo, deep breathe, ommm

Don't worry .... I am always relaxed

Out of the 52 Shakti peeth, 1 is in Sri Lanka, 1 is in Pakistan, 7 is in Bangladesh, 3 is in Nepal.

It has nothing to do with Mountains, it is the place where the parts of Sati fell when Shiva in his sorrow and anger carried her corpse around like a mad man.

You have not heard of Shakti peeths ?

Hope this helps,

 

[Gibbs]

Don't worry .... I am always relaxed

Out of the 52 Shakti peeth, 1 is in Sri Lanka, 1 is in Pakistan, 7 is in Bangladesh, 3 is in Nepal.

It has nothing to do with Mountains, it is the place where the parts of Sati fell when Shiva in his sorrow and anger carried her corpse around like a mad man.

You have not heard of Shakti peeths ?

Hope this helps,

Hey mate.. Could you explain a bit more in detail ? What exactly are these ?

 

[gau8av]

Don't worry .... I am always relaxed

Out of the 52 Shakti peeth, 1 is in Sri Lanka, 1 is in Pakistan, 7 is in Bangladesh, 3 is in Nepal.

It has nothing to do with Mountains, it is the place where the parts of Sati fell when Shiva in his sorrow and anger carried her corpse around like a mad man.

You have not heard of Shakti peeths ?

good to know.

Shakte Peeth did ring a bell, but then I got it when I googled

 

[Mamsalaphala]

Hey mate.. Could you explain a bit more in detail ? What exactly are these ?

In simple terms, these are places where energy resides. So going there helps one tap into this energy which can help awaken his own kundalini chakras (hope you know what those are) and get closer to "realizing god".

Call it Ying-Yang or Shiv-Shakti. These are the Shakti or "female" energy which reside in the land shown by the map.

Just so you know, "shakti" is also another word for "strength" or "power".

This is also one of the reason the Indian Sub continent is a holy place for Hindus.

 

[Gibbs]

In simple terms, these are places where energy resides. So going there helps one tap into this energy which can help awaken his own kundalini chakras (hope you know what those are) and get closer to god.

Call it Ying-Yang or Shiv-Shakti. These are the Shakti or "female" energy which reside in the land shown by the map.

Cool Tah mate.. I've heard about this place in Southern Sri Lanka where they reckon magnetic energy is very high.. apparently a magnetic compass wont stay still

Rumassala the ‘Beautiful rock’ at Galle | AmazingLanka.com

Mystery
In consequence, Sir Arthur explains, that, Exhausted geo-stationary satellites end up high above this place around Unawatuna, and keep on milling round and round.

It is interesting to note in this context, that, when Arthur C. Clarke came to Sri Lanka (then Ceylon), way back in 1956, he made Unawatuna his first home. The mystery associated with the Rumassala area, may, in all probability, have intrigued him. When we were children, the elderly folk told us stores about the mystery of Unawatuna and Rumassala.

There are fruit groves in Rumassala which, only those travellers who genuinely lose their way, would come upon. Among precious herbs, in the Rumassala region, recording to folk-lore, is ‘kalu-nika’, a medical plant with life-giving properties.

There is yet another ‘fall’ associated with this region. As Pradeepa indicated, in a far off age, a meteorite from outer space would have fallen in this area. Sir Arthur C. Clarke has stated that, spot in this region does not come within the magnetic field that envelops the whole earth.

The hillock of Rumassala figures prominently in a mythical ‘fall’. The core theme of the Indian epic Ramayana is a mythical encounter between Rama and Ravana. When Rama’s brother Lakshman was near-fatally wounded in battle, there was only scant hope about his life. The Prince’s life could be saved only if certain herbs could be fetched from the Himalayas. Speed was of high essence. Hanuman the Monkey God undertook the mission. At the site, he forgot the names of the herbs.

He broke of the chunk of one mountain, where the herbs occurred. When the chief physician extracted the essential herbs, Hanuman threw away the chunk of the mountain. It fell to the ground and came to be named Rumassala. Ru-mas-sala, could be translated as ‘Beautiful Rock’. Incidentally, its present name ‘Buona Vista’, seems an echo of the original meaning, since ‘Buona Vista’ implies, ‘Beautiful Sight’.

 

[Whazzup]

Isht Dev is Gand dev , There is a confusion in Kul devi some in my family says its Kali maa and others says its Chilaay Maa.

I'm not particularly religious, or from a tribal region but just got back from Himachal.. very interesting there, almost all big mountains seem to have a local deity associated, which I suspect are different forms of the mainstream goddesses.

Hidimba devi, jwalamukhi devi are 2 famous ones that come to mind but the whole of Himachal is dotted with these.

Yes we do have a lot of deities there , most of these are our Isht dev (or u can just say family deity figure) . When a family grows they do sometimes makes a big temple but most of the times its either in our houses or somewhere close to it.

P.S some pundits in my region calls Lord Shiva and Vishno as Isht devs but not the Kshatriyas

 

[Mamsalaphala]

Cool Tah mate.. I've heard about this place in Southern Sri Lanka where they reckon magnetic energy is very high.. apparently a magnetic compass wont stay still

Rumassala the ‘Beautiful rock’ at Galle |

The Shakti peetha in Sri Lanka is located in Thirukkonamalai.

Sadly today only one pillar of the grand temple that stood there exist. It was a sacred spot for all Sri Lankans back then.

Thirukkonamalai was supposed to be the richest and the most visited Hindu shrine, maybe more so than Rameshwaram or Puri in India. It was extolled by the Nayanmar saints in the Tevaram and by Arunagirinathar in his Thiruppugazh, Konamaamalai was a great center of Shiva worship, second only to Chidambaram. It is one of the two Paadal Petra Thalams in Lanka.

There is Archeological and literary evidence that prove the existence of at least three temples on the cliff, with one gopuram taller than the other, the highest gopuram enshrining the main deity. The main temple itself was believed to have a thousand pillars supporting a humongous hall and many mandapas.

The rock carving near the temple, referred to as the Konesar Kalvettu places the beginnings of the temple circa 1580 BC. The temple has recorded history from as far as 300BC.

It was destroyed by the Buddhist king Mahasena and replaced by Buddha Viharas, the temple was renewed and reconstructed by the Chozha King Kulakotta Chozhan. He rebuilt the temple and the tank, earning his name (Kulam – Tank, Kattu – Build) and brought down the Vanniars to settle in the region and make it flourish. The temple was further served by the Pandya, Pallava and the Jaffna kings making it a magnificent place of pilgrimage that attracted people from all over the subcontinent. The kings and the Vanniars paid handsome tributes of gold, silver and pearl to the lord, making the temple prosperous and famous.

The glory however became the very bane of the temple. On the Tamil New Year day (14th April) 1624, the temple was looted by the Portuguese. When the utsavar was taken out in a procession, the Portuguese entered the temple dressed as brahmanas and plundered its wealth. Gold, pearls and gems that were collected over thousands of years were looted in a few hours. The temple itself was cannon-balled and broken to pieces. Much of the temple’s masonry was used to reinforce Fort Frederick and the rest of it was pushed into the Indian Ocean. The fleeing priests buried much of the idols and sent the rest for safekeeping.


There is an more amazing part to this story. There exists a rock carving, dating to the early Pandya dynasty complete with the double fish Insignia, which foretells the fall of the temple into the hands of the Franks. Presently kept in the Lisbon Museum it prophesizes “O King, be warned, the franks will ruin the ancient temple built by Kulakottan and no future king will ever think of building it to its previous glory again.”


Not sure if this is the same rock,

I am aware of the significant loss of gravity around the Sri Lankan region.

I found old notes showing details of the Thirukkonamalai Temple by Constantine de Sa de Noronha, the same man who destroyed it

Location of the temple,

 

[Josef K]

The Shakti peetha in Sri Lanka is located in Thirukkonamalai.

Sadly today only one pillar of the grand temple that stood there exist. It was a sacred spot for all Sri Lankans back then.

Thirukkonamalai was supposed to be the richest and the most visited Hindu shrine, maybe more so than Rameshwaram or Puri in India. It was extolled by the Nayanmar saints in the Tevaram and by Arunagirinathar in his Thiruppugazh, Konamaamalai was a great center of Shiva worship, second only to Chidambaram. It is one of the two Paadal Petra Thalams in Lanka.

There is Archeological and literary evidence that prove the existence of at least three temples on the cliff, with one gopuram taller than the other, the highest gopuram enshrining the main deity. The main temple itself was believed to have a thousand pillars supporting a humongous hall and many mandapas.

The rock carving near the temple, referred to as the Konesar Kalvettu places the beginnings of the temple circa 1580 BC. The temple has recorded history from as far as 300BC.

It was destroyed by the Buddhist king Mahasena and replaced by Buddha Viharas, the temple was renewed and reconstructed by the Chozha King Kulakotta Chozhan. He rebuilt the temple and the tank, earning his name (Kulam – Tank, Kattu – Build) and brought down the Vanniars to settle in the region and make it flourish. The temple was further served by the Pandya, Pallava and the Jaffna kings making it a magnificent place of pilgrimage that attracted people from all over the subcontinent. The kings and the Vanniars paid handsome tributes of gold, silver and pearl to the lord, making the temple prosperous and famous.

The glory however became the very bane of the temple. On the Tamil New Year day (14th April) 1624, the temple was looted by the Portuguese. When the utsavar was taken out in a procession, the Portuguese entered the temple dressed as brahmanas and plundered its wealth. Gold, pearls and gems that were collected over thousands of years were looted in a few hours. The temple itself was cannon-balled and broken to pieces. Much of the temple’s masonry was used to reinforce Fort Frederick and the rest of it was pushed into the Indian Ocean. The fleeing priests buried much of the idols and sent the rest for safekeeping.


There is an more amazing part to this story. There exists a rock carving, dating to the early Pandya dynasty complete with the double fish Insignia, which foretells the fall of the temple into the hands of the Franks. Presently kept in the Lisbon Museum it prophesizes “O King, be warned, the franks will ruin the ancient temple built by Kulakottan and no future king will ever think of building it to its previous glory again.”


Not sure if this is the same rock,

I am aware of the significant loss of gravity around the Sri Lankan region.

I found old notes showing details of the Thirukkonamalai Temple by Constantine de Sa de Noronha, the same man who destroyed it

Location of the temple,

@Gibbs Just in case you haven't yet realized, he's referring to Trincomalee.

 

[Mamsalaphala]

@Gibbs Just in case you haven't yet realized, he's referring to Trincomalee.

That's right.

The name Trincomalee is a corrupted form of Thirukkonamalai. This hill lies along the same longitude as Mount Kailasa, that is why it was also called Dakshina Kailasha. This was where the shakti peeth, the famed Shankari Devi temple was located.

 

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