Mental Health Corner

[jaibi]

Brother, only a psychiatrist can prescribe such medications. I would advise you to see one ASAP. Gastro or any other doctor has no business doing this and psychiatric medications are very complicated to manage and have side effects. Kindly, visit a psychiatrist and show him the diagnosis.

Thank you, hope it helps.

When I visited gastroentrologist, he also gave me this medicine for 1 month after checking my body languageView attachment 600848

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Mental Health is such a vast subject...and disorders are for obvious reasons growing... the growing pressures of existence in a post-modern world ...it is impact in inter human relationships of last decades... social engineering to cope with byproducts of dismantled FamilySystem... on and on...

In the context of Pakistan... there is inherent resilence of Paks... which is quite legendary..given what has Pakistan been through and still going through...

Sociological changes that are happening...combined with technology... the fundamental value system is changing... TikTokNation is slowly taking shape... RahimKhan is but a tiny example...for what is lurking under the surface...

However, it is Vital to Define What is Mental Health to start with before diving in providing care/treatement.

Fundamentallly, Individuality is a NeuroticPersonality... it has to be...otherwise, individuals cann't exit.

The Paradox emerges when we see that there is rather an overal group behaviour and the tiny likes/dislike are not that Individual rather product of condition and exposure.... this brings us to the question of Personality. What is Personality?

Canablism of Paupa NewGineau might shock us..but since it was norm...so nobody there felt any trauma... cosying up in their TreeNests... indulging in........

What is mostly overlooked in mental health treatment is overall Endocrime System and its performance... thus taking mental issues as stand alone... whereas we know full well that hormones play havick on mental health from moods to performance...

Also it is imperative to understand that certain gene types produce certain mental compositions... dark subject... so putting a stop here!

Climatic conditions are another element determing behaviour and consequent mental health...

Although Coffee gives a dompamine boost but it also drains magnesium from body..same as alchohol.... just to examplify a point!

A balanced diet versus unbalanced one... can change the BrainChemisty... especially intake of quality vs dangerous fats...

Genders produce there own particular brain chemistries...suited to survive... formed over last 100000 years... nothing politically incorrect to see it from pure brain chemistry...

In fact with the decline in hormones and slowing down of protein synethesis ...we come to differences in brain chemistry...producing its own set of mental performance and disorders... effecting mental health...

Too much dopamine creates risk taking as too much serotonin produces sluggish outlook...

There is considerable research on AminoAcids as replacement for pharma for mental health treatment... the magic word is Balance...

If we look at any given culture..it is a set of behaviours resulting from generational conditioning producing predictible anchor points... for both pain and pleasure... which are like and dislikes in another elementary form...

It appears that mental health is not just depression or too much elevation in mood... go-getterz... it has far more facets and aspects..

Then it brings us to the minimum necessary quality of Mental Health to function in any given enviroment... in the warzones it has different qoutient than in downtown Stockholm...

I have not touched upon growing Autism in industrialised world... which I tend to believe is a mutation.. it has always been present in humanity but now the frequency of it has increased... this again has to deal with survivability of autists in western society..where they become engineers or scientists...enough studies available...

Perhaps it is safe to say that mental health solutions varry from society to society... given the 'culutral triggers/anchors' vary... though generalised medicine produces change in brain chamistery... with varrying effect in different ethnic groups...

Mental health in Pakistan is not a tabboo it is rather in it infancy...given the overall healthcare is so imature...sacrace...

In the end it is the ability to function in any given environment... from survial to thriving.... in between these two states exist 'individuals'....

@SIPRA @PakSword @Dubious @Signalian @StormBreaker

 

[jaibi]

Nice to see you here again, Zarvan bahi, I hope you remember me, we used to debate heatedly back in '12-14 I'm sorry to hear that but as it requires some personal details I would welcome you to chat with me in pvt so I can help you decide if you should go for therapy.

Other than that, bahijan, if you're of a certain age usually 30-45 years then such feelings do rise up from time to time and that's pretty normal. The threat of being alone and isolated is something that the human mind finds terrifying because we are by nature social. So, it is natural to feel it; however, if it is getting so bad that it is giving you anxiety then you should consider going for counseling (milder therapy) that can help you identify what's exactly bothering you? Is it being alone because you feel you won't find matching personalities, is it that you've lost some contact with your friends and are having trouble making a new social support group? Is is purely in terms of a romantic relationship? And so on. Once you're clear then your future line of action can be easier to decipher for you as well as your therapist.

Great thread, specially as for few reasons I am suffering from depression I haven't gotten it checked yet. But sometimes despite everything going smoothly in my life I really feel depressed. One major reason or fear I often get is afraid of ending up alone in life. This fear keeps bothering and is getting bad to worse by every passing day.

 

[Maarkhoor]

I achieve very high scores in I.Q tests but always having trouble in math....
Why @jaibi

 

[jaibi]

A very insightful post, brother, thank you for your insight. Yes, essentially, mental health is about achieving as much balance as we can in our minds so we can do so in our lives. From a practicioner's POV here's what we go by: if your problems are bothering you, if you feel stressed or burdened then you should go for counseling (general life problems). If the problems are so bad that your routine functioning in life (job, study etc., ) are being hampered then you need therapy (clinical psychologist, specialist). If the problems are so bad that you are without a complete grasp of reality or functioning (i.e. it's become biological in nature) then you'd require a psychiatrist and clinical psychologist to work together and help you heal.

Thank you.

Mental Health is such a vast subject...and disorders are for obvious reasons growing... the growing pressures of existence in a post-modern world ...it is impact in inter human relationships of last decades... social engineering to cope with byproducts of dismantled FamilySystem... on and on...

In the context of Pakistan... there is inherent resilence of Paks... which is quite legendary..given what has Pakistan been through and still going through...

Sociological changes that are happening...combined with technology... the fundamental value system is changing... TikTokNation is slowly taking shape... RahimKhan is but a tiny example...for what is lurking under the surface...

However, it is Vital to Define What is Mental Health to start with before diving in providing care/treatement.

Fundamentallly, Individuality is a NeuroticPersonality... it has to be...otherwise, individuals cann't exit.

The Paradox emerges when we see that there is rather an overal group behaviour and the tiny likes/dislike are not that Individual rather product of condition and exposure.... this brings us to the question of Personality. What is Personality?

Canablism of Paupa NewGineau might shock us..but since it was norm...so nobody there felt any trauma... cosying up in their TreeNests... indulging in........

What is mostly overlooked in mental health treatment is overall Endocrime System and its performance... thus taking mental issues as stand alone... whereas we know full well that hormones play havick on mental health from moods to performance...

Also it is imperative to understand that certain gene types produce certain mental compositions... dark subject... so putting a stop here!

Climatic conditions are another element determing behaviour and consequent mental health...

Although Coffee gives a dompamine boost but it also drains magnesium from body..same as alchohol.... just to examplify a point!

A balanced diet versus unbalanced one... can change the BrainChemisty... especially intake of quality vs dangerous fats...

Genders produce there own particular brain chemistries...suited to survive... formed over last 100000 years... nothing politically incorrect to see it from pure brain chemistry...

In fact with the decline in hormones and slowing down of protein synethesis ...we come to differences in brain chemistry...producing its own set of mental performance and disorders... effecting mental health...

Too much dopamine creates risk taking as too much serotonin produces sluggish outlook...

There is considerable research on AminoAcids as replacement for pharma for mental health treatment... the magic word is Balance...

If we look at any given culture..it is a set of behaviours resulting from generational conditioning producing predictible anchor points... for both pain and pleasure... which are like and dislikes in another elementary form...

It appears that mental health is not just depression or too much elevation in mood... go-getterz... it has far more facets and aspects..

Then it brings us to the minimum necessary quality of Mental Health to function in any given enviroment... in the warzones it has different qoutient than in downtown Stockholm...

I have not touched upon growing Autism in industrialised world... which I tend to believe is a mutation.. it has always been present in humanity but now the frequency of it has increased... this again has to deal with survivability of autists in western society..where they become engineers or scientists...enough studies available...

Perhaps it is safe to say that mental health solutions varry from society to society... given the 'culutral triggers/anchors' vary... though generalised medicine produces change in brain chamistery... with varrying effect in different ethnic groups...

Mental health in Pakistan is not a tabboo it is rather in it infancy...given the overall healthcare is so imature...sacrace...

In the end it is the ability to function in any given environment... from survial to thriving.... in between these two states exist 'individuals'....

@SIPRA @PakSword @Dubious @Signalian @StormBreaker

Brother, research shows that mathematical skills in the brain are not innate but learnt. Therefore, in the specific area that you're having problem such as arithemitc or algebra etc., is where you have made an unhealthy association (such as, I can't do this, this is too hard etc.,) which is hampering your execution. Remember anxiety affects normal functioning. Once, we address that association and its reaction, you would start improving. It could also be that the IQ test is making you anxious (unknowingly) because you're taking it for a job or are worried about what it may reflect about you.

I achieve very high scores in I.Q tests but always having trouble in math....
Why @jaibi

 

[PakSword]

Mental Health is such a vast subject...and disorders are for obvious reasons growing... the growing pressures of existence in a post-modern world ...it is impact in inter human relationships of last decades... social engineering to cope with byproducts of dismantled FamilySystem... on and on...

In the context of Pakistan... there is inherent resilence of Paks... which is quite legendary..given what has Pakistan been through and still going through...

Sociological changes that are happening...combined with technology... the fundamental value system is changing... TikTokNation is slowly taking shape... RahimKhan is but a tiny example...for what is lurking under the surface...

However, it is Vital to Define What is Mental Health to start with before diving in providing care/treatement.

Fundamentallly, Individuality is a NeuroticPersonality... it has to be...otherwise, individuals cann't exit.

The Paradox emerges when we see that there is rather an overal group behaviour and the tiny likes/dislike are not that Individual rather product of condition and exposure.... this brings us to the question of Personality. What is Personality?

Canablism of Paupa NewGineau might shock us..but since it was norm...so nobody there felt any trauma... cosying up in their TreeNests... indulging in........

What is mostly overlooked in mental health treatment is overall Endocrime System and its performance... thus taking mental issues as stand alone... whereas we know full well that hormones play havick on mental health from moods to performance...

Also it is imperative to understand that certain gene types produce certain mental compositions... dark subject... so putting a stop here!

Climatic conditions are another element determing behaviour and consequent mental health...

Although Coffee gives a dompamine boost but it also drains magnesium from body..same as alchohol.... just to examplify a point!

A balanced diet versus unbalanced one... can change the BrainChemisty... especially intake of quality vs dangerous fats...

Genders produce there own particular brain chemistries...suited to survive... formed over last 100000 years... nothing politically incorrect to see it from pure brain chemistry...

In fact with the decline in hormones and slowing down of protein synethesis ...we come to differences in brain chemistry...producing its own set of mental performance and disorders... effecting mental health...

Too much dopamine creates risk taking as too much serotonin produces sluggish outlook...

There is considerable research on AminoAcids as replacement for pharma for mental health treatment... the magic word is Balance...

If we look at any given culture..it is a set of behaviours resulting from generational conditioning producing predictible anchor points... for both pain and pleasure... which are like and dislikes in another elementary form...

It appears that mental health is not just depression or too much elevation in mood... go-getterz... it has far more facets and aspects..

Then it brings us to the minimum necessary quality of Mental Health to function in any given enviroment... in the warzones it has different qoutient than in downtown Stockholm...

I have not touched upon growing Autism in industrialised world... which I tend to believe is a mutation.. it has always been present in humanity but now the frequency of it has increased... this again has to deal with survivability of autists in western society..where they become engineers or scientists...enough studies available...

Perhaps it is safe to say that mental health solutions varry from society to society... given the 'culutral triggers/anchors' vary... though generalised medicine produces change in brain chamistery... with varrying effect in different ethnic groups...

Mental health in Pakistan is not a tabboo it is rather in it infancy...given the overall healthcare is so imature...sacrace...

In the end it is the ability to function in any given environment... from survial to thriving.... in between these two states exist 'individuals'....

@SIPRA @PakSword @Dubious @Signalian @StormBreaker

I had some depression issues in the past, but i have learnt to control them. They don't affect me now.

Alhamdolillah, when they bother me, I start thinking about something else, or hit a gym.. 2 hours of exercise and 500 ml of fresh coconut water makes me happy..

Either depression is gone altogether (because I know how to control it) or I am living in constant depression and I don't even know if I am suffering from it.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

A very insightful post, brother, thank you for your insight. Yes, essentially, mental health is about achieving as much balance as we can in our minds so we can do so in our lives. From a practicioner's POV here's what we go by: if your problems are bothering you, if you feel stressed or burdened then you should go for counseling (general life problems). If the problems are so bad that your routine functioning in life (job, study etc., ) are being hampered then you need therapy (clinical psychologist, specialist). If the problems are so bad that you are without a complete grasp of reality or functioning (i.e. it's become biological in nature) then you'd require a psychiatrist and clinical psychologist to work together and help you heal.

Thank you.

You are welcome, Our Resident Humanist!!! Wonderful, wonderful...

From anxiety to damage/reconfiguring of neural pathways...there is always change in brain chemistry... as you know too well brain chemistry determiens behaviour/thoughts/feelings.... which in turn effect hormonal production... and in reserve it is equally true..i.e. hormonal production effecting brain chemistry.

It is just vast, fasicnating subject... and in my view requires a wholistic approach than established practice... anyhow, awareness is growing....

Anatomy of Beliefs is rather curcial before devising a health strategy... and individual lives in an environment...

What I would like to see is establishement of GeneticEngineering in Pakistan for both GeneticMedicine and as Diagnostic tool... the Age of Genetic Medicine is here... @Dubious knows it much better than I!!!

I had some depression issues in the past, but i have learnt to control them. They don't affect me now.

Alhamdolillah, when they bother me, I start thinking about something else, or hit a gym.. 2 hours of exercise and 500 ml of fresh coconut water makes me happy..

Either depression is gone altogether (because I know how to control it) or I am living in constant depression and I don't even know if I am suffering from it.

Depression is processing mechanism actually... body's way of slowing down... nobody can exist without depression... the trick, which you have found... it food and excercise to keep it managable...

Too much excitement is equally bad as is depression....

Just avoid any white sugars..and switch to honey/ghur.... you will feel an adjustment period...since, sugar give instant insuline boost...but it also poisons cells...

 

[Maarkhoor]

Brother, research shows that mathematical skills in the brain are not innate but learnt. Therefore, in the specific area that you're having problem such as arithemitc or algebra etc., is where you have made an unhealthy association (such as, I can't do this, this is too hard etc.,) which is hampering your execution. Remember anxiety affects normal functioning. Once, we address that association and its reaction, you would start improving. It could also be that the IQ test is making you anxious (unknowingly) because you're taking it for a job or are worried about what it may reflect about you.

I was curious so I consulted psychologist he took again some I.Q tests which prove I was in Einstein club but he told me my brain process more quickly them my memory and that is why i failed to learn new mathematical skills and I need to do more exercise to learn. Is that conclusion correct?

 

[Zarvan]

Nice to see you here again, Zarvan bahi, I hope you remember me, we used to debate heatedly back in '12-14 I'm sorry to hear that but as it requires some personal details I would welcome you to chat with me in pvt so I can help you decide if you should go for therapy.

Other than that, bahijan, if you're of a certain age usually 30-45 years then such feelings do rise up from time to time and that's pretty normal. The threat of being alone and isolated is something that the human mind finds terrifying because we are by nature social. So, it is natural to feel it; however, if it is getting so bad that it is giving you anxiety then you should consider going for counseling (milder therapy) that can help you identify what's exactly bothering you? Is it being alone because you feel you won't find matching personalities, is it that you've lost some contact with your friends and are having trouble making a new social support group? Is is purely in terms of a romantic relationship? And so on. Once you're clear then your future line of action can be easier to decipher for you as well as your therapist.

How to message you I can't see the option and yes I am 30 going to be 31 this year.

 

[jaibi]

Silent depression can be dangerous, brother, why don't you consider consulting a psychologist. It would not hurt, would it? Things do get better.

I had some depression issues in the past, but i have learnt to control them. They don't affect me now.

Alhamdolillah, when they bother me, I start thinking about something else, or hit a gym.. 2 hours of exercise and 500 ml of fresh coconut water makes me happy..

Either depression is gone altogether (because I know how to control it) or I am living in constant depression and I don't even know if I am suffering from it.

Few tests are that valid, brother, and testing requires a liesence and training. If that's not there then I wouldn't rely on it.

I was curious so I consulted psychologist he took again some I.Q tests which prove I was in Einstein club but he told me my brain process more quickly them my memory and that is why i failed to learn new mathematical skills and I need to do more exercise to learn. Is that conclusion correct?

 

[Microsoft]

A relative of mine goes to see a therapist and the therapist recommends things like meditation, mindfulness, etc. These are things I feel like a quick google search can tell you to do. What do you suggest is it worth continuing with therapist or just do these yourself? I feel the therapist isn't worth the money for him. What are some of things that distinguish a good psychologist from a poor one?

 

[YeBeWarned]

got a Panic disorder if it counts ...

 

[313ghazi]

Great thread. People need to open up about mental health and get rid of the stigma.

 

[Signalian]

Great thread, specially as for few reasons I am suffering from depression I haven't gotten it checked yet. But sometimes despite everything going smoothly in my life I really feel depressed. One major reason or fear I often get is afraid of ending up alone in life. This fear keeps bothering and is getting bad to worse by every passing day.

Have you learnt how to be happy ?
Most people don't know how to be happy and keep themselves happy.

Do you stay in gratitude all the time ?
Thankfulness is very important as it keeps humans away from anxiety and restlessness.

A relative of mine goes to see a therapist and the therapist recommends things like meditation, mindfulness, etc. These are things I feel like a quick google search can tell you to do. What do you suggest is it worth continuing with therapist or just do these yourself? I feel the therapist isn't worth the money for him. What are some of things that distinguish a good psychologist from a poor one?

Psychologist helps coz he/she doesnt judge you. Your fridn's/family may judge u when u open up.
If there is a neutral person who wants to help and you can open up to him/her then that is awesome. I think everyone has one or two psychological issues atleast, due to experiences, insecurities, traumas, abuse etc in life. Some find escapes, some find distractions and very few face them and solve them. Majority of people over-think, drown in negativity, give in to their useless thoughts and finally succumb to depression.

I think most people go in depression coz its an easy way out. Its the easiest option instead of facing own thoughts, own ghosts, own negativity, own ego, own faults, own fears etc.

got a Panic disorder if it counts ...

If you learn to accept the life that God has written for you, you won't panic. What we say in Urdu, Rab ki Raza mein Raazi ho jana. You will feel lighter and won't panic.

 

[YeBeWarned]

If you learn to accept the life that God has written for you, you won't panic. What we say in Urdu, Rab ki Raza mein Raazi ho jana. You will feel lighter and won't panic.

Its more than that, I never understand what trigger my panic it might be fear , health , depression .. I had panic attacks during Namaz , sometimes it gets so bad that I had to break Namaz and because of that fear of getting panic attack during Namaz I stopped Offering Namaz for so long .. Only if i know what trigger i might be able to do something about it but the pills I was/is taking helps me a lot .