Meet the New Breed of Kashmir Militants: Anti-Pakistan

[Fledgingwings]

why, you think this is fake news ?

I say it's completely believable and very likely true. We know that the radical forms of Islam prohibit nationalism. The rebels in Kashmir are becoming more fanatic, they see common cause with isis, taliban, fsa etc

shouldn't surprise anyone, this was always going to be the next logical mutation, we've seen it happen over and over again, first in Afghanistan, now in Syria...

we might even have to do a zarb-e-azb of our own against these people.

I didnt say fake.What could be fake about a joke?? I,d say it sounds realistic from indian friends perspetive.and a goood one

 

[el 3mir]

and let me guess. they're Pro-indian

 

[T-72M1]

I didnt say fake.What could be fake about a joke?? I,d say it sounds realistic from indian friends perspetive.and a goood one

and let me guess. they're Pro-indian

the saudi/ISIS version of Islam says nationalism is haram, all they want is a global caliphate where sharia is supreme.

the jihadi rebels hate both India and Pakistan.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

the jihadi rebels hate both India and Pakistan.

but not the kashmiris

 

[khanmubashir]

Meet the New Breed of Kashmir Militants: Anti-Pakistan, But Pro-Taliban

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Srinagar: A group of unidentified militants addressed a gathering in Pulwama district of south Kashmir on Friday evening, warning the people against supporting “un-Islamic Pakistan” while seeking support for the Taliban.

On the first death anniversary of Hizbul Mujahideen militant Naseer Pandit, the militants appeared near his grave and fired gunshots in air before addressing the crowd.

According to an eyewitness, the militants told people not to hoist the “un-Islamic Pakistan flag” calling for a “jihad” against Pakistan as well as India to establish Ummah, or Muslim brotherhood, transcending geographies.
“India is a tyrant state today and will remain one tomorrow. It has to go from Kashmir. We will be successful only when we unite for Islam. We love Pakistan only because it was created in the name of Islam. But there is no Islam in today’s Pakistan. We have to do Jihad in Pakistan, just like in India,” said one of the militants. News18 was able to access the audio clip of the alleged militant’s speech but couldn’t confirm its authenticity.

He called for Sharia law in Kashmir. “We have not stood up for any organisation or Pakistan, but Islam,” said the speaker.

In contrast with the traditional stand of Hizbul Mujahideen and Lashkar-e-Taiba, the two major militant outfits in Kashmir, the speaker said, “We have taken up guns for Islam, not any nation. We want Islamic system, the system of Quran… And for that, give your blood, life and property.”
Praising the Taliban for its fight against Pakistan, the militant said, “Taliban wants Islamic system in Pakistan. We should love Taliban.” Many locals can be heard shouting “Long Live Taliban” slogans in the audio clip.

Warning the crowd against hoisting Pakistani flag, the militant said, “We want Shariah and Pakistani flag doesn’t come (in the domain) of Shariah because the Kalimah is not inscribed on it.”

He appealed Kashmiris to “write Kalimah on black flags” similar to those of Islamic State and Al Qaeda.
The militant said people should not forget the “martyrdom” of Naseer Pandit, Burhan Wani, and Aafaq and “boycott” the upcoming polls.

A police officer told News18 that panic gripped at Kareemabad when gunshots were heard in the area. He said some militants had appeared at the graveyard of Naseer Pandit, who was killed in an encounter last year at Shopian, along with another militant Waseem Ahmad Malla.



http://www.news18.com/news/india/me...ts-anti-pakistan-but-pro-taliban-1369858.html

 

[Reichsmarschall]

 

[SorryNotSorry]

Well such beans are being sold by India since long to declare Kashmir Struggle as some kind of religious or Jihadi thing yet World hasn't acknowledged so you can understand who is selling what and others bought it or not.




Yes, the same is one of the parts of Kashmir Struggle as you skipped Sikhs protesting against IA in IoK. So by the same logic, everyone should call it Sikh's Movement but No as all of them are Kashmiris. Pakistan never said it will include Kashmir in Pakistan and we support Kashmir Struggle for their right of determination. Muslims are in majority hence, they will chant Islamic Slogans indeed but there are Sikhs to protesting against IA. Tamils protested in Favour of Kashmiris too so how many brand names will be needed to divert focus from real issue.

How was the Kashmir Struggle not religious to begin with. All the problems here are religious- more than just cultural identity. The case of Khalistan was the same, but not the Tamil cause.
And about the non Kashmiri people in India who you see supporting Kashmiri "independence"- are fringe elements, maybe a few thousand in a country of 1.25 billion, abusing their right to free speech. Don't let them paint a false picture of how 99.9% Indians feel about Kashmir.

Your analysis of the ISIS situation is good, but I do disagree on how Kashmir was not a religious issue since it's conception.

 

[patman]

Over the past few days, a video released by Jamaat-ul-Ahraar (JA), a faction of the Pakistani Taliban or Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), has gone viral in Kashmir.

The video, six minutes and 25 seconds long, is chilling not only in the number of Pakistani institutions, places and activities it wants to attack, but also in the kind of fanatical religious outlook that it wants to impose. It even has English subtitles to ensure the message goes to people beyond Pakistan also.

Who is it targeting?
JA has named the new campaign “Operation Ghazi”, after Maulvi Ghazi Abdul Rasheed, who was killed in July 2007 by the Pakistan Army inside Lal Masjid, Islamabad.

Reading from a piece of paper, JA leader Mohammad Wali alias Khalid Khurasani, flanked by his Kalashankov-wielding aides, details his targets:

- All institutions of Legislature of Pakistan.

- The Pakistan Army, intelligence agencies and its supporting institutions, which may be police, Levies (a paramilitary force in the Pakistani province of Balochistan), Frontier Corps, Pakistan Air Force etc.

- The judiciary and its supporting institutions, i.e. lawyers’ organisations.

- All interest-based economic institutions, i.e. banks and financial institutions.

- All those political parties which provide strength to the anti-Islamic system and which support institutions acting against JA and which have been involved in the past in acting against Mujahideen.

- All those so-called constructive and welfare institutions which spread anti-Islamic ideology, vulgarity and nudity in our society. (This refers to the NGOs and Civil Society Organisations involved in advocacy of human rights, women rights and community awareness campaigns.)

- All those people who promote themselves as the contenders of prophethood (a reference to Ahmadis) and those people who are involved in blasphemy against the Prophet.

- The people who consider Khulafa-e-Rashideen (four caliphs who succeeded Prophet Muhammad) and other companions of prophet as infidels and those who level false allegations at the mothers of Muslims, particularly Hazrat Aisha.

- Mediapersons who work for the benefit of 'enemies' like the Pakistan Army, the government etc. They will be on top of the list of targets. (Practically, these include most of the mediapersons and media houses.)

- Aman Lashkar (pro-government armed militia) and Aman Committees (peace committees).

- Educational institutions providing strength and support to the un-Islamic system and the government. (This refers to all the English medium private schools, colleges and universities, which are running co-educational institutions.)

- There will be no attacks at the mosques, madrassahs, religious centres, religious gatherings, Eid prayers, funeral prayers and the places crowded with common people like markets, hospitals, tourist places, bus stops, fair festivals and mandis.

A day after the video’s release, the JA claimed responsibility for the blast on Mall Road in Lahore, which killed 14 people, including a police DIG. Two days later, the Islamic State, with which JA has jointly taken responsibility for attacks in the past, hit a Sufi shrine in Karachi, killing 75 people.

Kashmiris' reaction to jihadi groups
The video has mostly circulated through WhatsApp in Kashmir, with people refraining from doing so on Facebook, for the apparent fear of security action. There is also a certain diffidence about taking a stand for or against an anti-Pakistan message in the video on a public platform like Facebook.

However, unlike the Lashkar-e-Tayyiba and Jaish-e-Muhammad, which are familiar jihadi outfits in Kashmir, large sections of people in the state share an ambivalent approach towards the Pakistani Taliban, its factions like the JA and the Sajna group, and Al Qaeda and Islamic State, which have never been involved in any action on the ground in Kashmir.

Though, occasionally, youth in downtown Srinagar have flown Al Qaeda and Islamic State flags and painted Taliban graffiti, they have done so to draw media attention than out of any serious allegiance to their ideology.

Flag waving in Kashmir follows global jihadist trends: whichever international jihadi outfit is in the ascendancy will find its flags go up in the Valley – mostly during Friday protests in downtown Srinagar.

A few boys step out from the crowd and wave the flags to the waiting media crews before rejoining the stone throwing or disappearing into the warren of the nearby lanes.

Last year, it was Islamic State and now that the outfit is in retreat, its flags in Kashmir have also disappeared.

No meeting point with TTP?
A J&K police officer told Catch: “Unlike other groups, the TTP has generally not been a part of the Kashmiri consciousness. One, because of its Pakistan-centric nature. Second, because it is not active in Kashmir. And third, its mindless violence in Pakistan has often revolted Kashmiris. There is, thus, no apparent meeting point between the TTP and the secessionist politics in Kashmir.”

However, in a video released during the unrest last year, the Pakistani Taliban had announced its decision to join the Kashmir jihad.

“The anti-Islamic forces have started a tirade against Islam and our Kashmiri brothers, so the emir of TTP has called all the mujaheedin brothers to join hands and change the muzzle of our guns against the Indian Army,” a voice-over stated in a video juxtaposed with images of the pellet-hit youth in Kashmir.

Cause for concern
Security experts in Kashmir view the viral jihadi videos from Pakistan with concern. There is a fear that these will play a reinforcing role in the radicalisation of the youth.

“Though such videos exist on the internet, the viral jihadi videos directly impact you and have the potential to push youth towards extreme courses of action,” said the police officer.

“In fact, it is this viral social media militant content pioneered by Burhan Wani which has been a distinct factor in the current militancy. But compared to Burhan’s images and videos, those coming from Pakistan carry a deeply fanatic ideological message. We can well expect a clone in Kashmir.”

 

[Verve]

It is the fourth most powerful fighting force in the world

Fourth Largest, not fourth most powerful!

Read what your own senior defence analysts have to say on size v power!

 

[patman]

Fourth Largest, not fourth most powerful!

Read what your own senior defence analysts have to say on size v power!

i always laugh when i see Pakistanis come up with 1pakistani = 10 Indian theories ,especially when 70% of our arms are imported.

 

[padamchen]

Fourth Largest, not fourth most powerful!

Read what your own senior defence analysts have to say on size v power!

There are only two armies in the world that can take on India and win.

 

[Verve]

i always laugh when i see Pakistanis come up with 1pakistani = 10 Indian theories ,especially when 70% of our arms are imported.

You should laugh at what your defence analysts are saying. It is not about the number of soldiers and weapons, it is about organisation and how effective it is - that's power! But your IQ level is far too low to comprehend that.

 

[patman]

You should laugh at what your defence analysts are saying. It is not about the number of soldiers and weapons, it is about organisation and how effective it is - that's power! But your IQ level is far too low to comprehend that.

right because your "analyst" says Indian weapons are made up of tissue paper ,you got be specially delusional to think a country arming for a conflict with china uses scraps

 

[Verve]

right because your "analyst" says Indian weapons are made up of tissue paper ,you got be specially delusional to think a country arming for a conflict with china uses scraps

It is not about number of soldiers and weapons ... it is the effective deployment and use on the battlefield (read: war strategy) that determines the 'power'.

You won't get it!

 

[Sugarcane]

Looks like Indians have already fallen in love with this new breed of militants.