Meet the New Breed of Kashmir Militants: Anti-Pakistan

[The Eagle]

it is already a religious fight.

otherwise how do you explain the selective targeting of pandits in the valley.

how about Zakir musa urging stone pelters to throw stones in the name of islam/shariyat ?

That is called highlighting the Selective part of the IoK Freedom Fight that the whole struggle is for Kashmir and everyone of different religions fights for the same like Sikhs protests as well as we see Tamils protesting in favour of IoK. Such religious chants are to warm-up respective community. And as Indians call it revenge of Pundits, isn't it already made a religious fight by Indians themselves?. Targeting Pandits by whom, the selective reporting about so-called Mujahideen or something like "Dress Code Mujahideen".

The real issue should be that as once ISIS enters any land/region, that never is being at rest/peace so such game is not going to end well.

 

[padamchen]

That is called highlighting the Selective part of the IoK Freedom Fight that the whole struggle is for Kashmir and everyone of different religions fights for the same like Sikhs protests as well as we see Tamils protesting in favour of IoK. Such religious chants are to warm-up respective community. And as Indians call it revenge of Pundits, isn't it already made a religious fight by Indians themselves?. Targeting Pandits by whom, the selective reporting about so-called Mujahideen or something like "Dress Code Mujahideen".

The real issue should be that as once ISIS enters any land/region, that never is being at rest/peace so such game is not going to end well.

Actually, it's the other way around. Once and if ISIS makes its presence felt in Kashmir, it will then be open war.

Which will mean our Army will be allowed to operate like one.

And I guess we all know how that's going to end.

 

[Robinhood Pandey]

That is called highlighting the Selective part of the IoK Freedom Fight that the whole struggle is for Kashmir and everyone of different religions fights for the same like Sikhs protests as well as we see Tamils protesting in favour of IoK. Such religious chants are to warm-up respective community. And as Indians call it revenge of Pundits, isn't it already made a religious fight by Indians themselves?. Targeting Pandits by whom, the selective reporting about so-called Mujahideen or something like "Dress Code Mujahideen".

The real issue should be that as once ISIS enters any land/region, that never is being at rest/peace so such game is not going to end well.

So all those press releases on behalf of Hizb ul mijahiddin by local urdu newspapers like 'Al safa' or 'aftab' , asking all Pandits to pack up and leave Kashmir is selective highlighting ?

playing sermons on loudpseakers in the valley saying "Kashmir mei agar rehna hai, Allah-O-Akbar kehna hai" and "Yahan kya chalega, Nizam-e-Mustafa" is also selective highlighting ?

and cherry on the cake "Asi gachchi Pakistan, Batao roas te Batanev san' (We want Pakistan along with Hindu women but without their men)" is also selective highlighting ?

And as Indians call it revenge of Pundits,

lol really ?

is that the context u get when we ask the legitimacy of the so called Azadi movement when its nothing but a religious fight.

if it was genuinely for Kashmir why not include all the kashmiris into it why push the agenda of only shariyat into the valley ?

sell this narrative to someone who hasnt seen Kashmir through his/her own eyes.

 

[The Eagle]

Actually, it's the other way around. Once and if ISIS makes its presence felt in Kashmir, it will then be open war.

Which will mean our Army will be allowed to operate like one.

And I guess we all know how that's going to end.

Exactly, this is what India wants which is yet impossible so once the presence of banned organization shown, there goes the Kashmir Struggle by way of applying justified force. Re-read my first post in this thread again. This is how NaMO want it to be, being unable to handle the situation on political ground.

 

[padamchen]

Exactly, this is what India wants which is yet impossible so once the presence of banned organization shown, there goes the Kashmir Struggle by way of applying justified force. Re-read my first post in this thread again. This is how NaMO want it to be, being unable to handle the situation on political ground.

Sorry I got you wrong then.

In that case it's a brilliant strategy on our part.

The idea is to crush the rebellion. The ends justify all means. Any Indian will tell you that.

 

[The Eagle]

lol really ?

is that the context u get when we ask the legitimacy of the so called Azadi movement when its nothing but a religious fight.

if it was genuinely for Kashmir why not include all the kashmiris into it why push the agenda of only shariyat into the valley ?

sell this narrative to someone who hasnt seen Kashmir through his/her own eyes.

Well such beans are being sold by India since long to declare Kashmir Struggle as some kind of religious or Jihadi thing yet World hasn't acknowledged so you can understand who is selling what and others bought it or not.

So all those press releases on behalf of Hizb ul mijahiddin by local urdu newspapers like 'Al safa' or 'aftab' , asking all Pandits to pack up and leave Kashmir is selective highlighting ?

playing sermons on loudpseakers in the valley saying "Kashmir mei agar rehna hai, Allah-O-Akbar kehna hai" and "Yahan kya chalega, Nizam-e-Mustafa" is also selective highlighting ?

and cherry on the cake "Asi gachchi Pakistan, Batao roas te Batanev san' (We want Pakistan along with Hindu women but without their men)" is also selective highlighting ?

Yes, the same is one of the parts of Kashmir Struggle as you skipped Sikhs protesting against IA in IoK. So by the same logic, everyone should call it Sikh's Movement but No as all of them are Kashmiris. Pakistan never said it will include Kashmir in Pakistan and we support Kashmir Struggle for their right of determination. Muslims are in majority hence, they will chant Islamic Slogans indeed but there are Sikhs to protesting against IA. Tamils protested in Favour of Kashmiris too so how many brand names will be needed to divert focus from real issue.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Fake news!

 

[The Eagle]

Sorry I got you wrong then.

In that case it's a brilliant strategy on our part.

The idea is to crush the rebellion. The ends justify all means. Any Indian will tell you that.

But this is not the end then, read Iraq, Syria, Libya & Afghanistan that what happens afterwards. However, the news seems to be mere attempt like it reminds of that fake recorded call of Mujahideen after so-called strike. While designing such strategies, one must not look at expected short-term results but aftermath of the same.

 

[padamchen]

But this is not the end then, read Iraq, Syria, Libya & Afghanistan that what happens afterwards. However, the news seems to be mere attempt like it reminds of that fake recorded call of Mujahideen after so-called strike. While designing such strategies, one must not look at expected short-term results but aftermath of the same.

India is none of those countries. It's bigger than all of them combined.

The Indian Army is not an Arab army. It is the fourth most powerful fighting force in the world. It is a sledgehammer. Which has been reduced to a tiny bell hammer in Kashmir.

Once it's open war, you'll get to see really what the ISIS is in front of a real army.

 

[Robinhood Pandey]

Well such beans are being sold by India since long to declare Kashmir Struggle as some kind of religious or Jihadi thing yet World hasn't acknowledged so you can understand who is selling what and others bought it or not.

So as per you India asked successor of good burhan wani Zakir musa to urge people to throw stones in the name of Islam ?

here is a video for u.

watch from 00:34 sec onwars

let me also put the verbatim

"
Jo muslam bhai hain humare . .unko mai kehna chahta hoon ke wo jab bhi Patthar uthaye . .to wo Islam ke liye ho. wo Kashmir ke liye ya kisi Watan ke liye Naa ho . . .kisi wataniyat ki jang na ho . . .wo khali or sirf khali Islam ke liye ho . . . sab logo ko bataiye ki matlab jo Nationalism hai matlab wataniyat hai ye to Islam me Haram karar di gayi hai.

"

so whose words should i take as face value ?

a nobody from internet or a guy who actually has picked guns against my nation and fighting for the so called azadi ??

Yes, the same is one of the parts of Kashmir Struggle as you skipped Sikhs protesting against IA in IoK. So by the same logic, everyone should call it Sikh's Movement but No as all of them are Kashmiris. Pakistan never said it will include Kashmir in Pakistan and we support Kashmir Struggle for their right of determination. Muslims are in majority hence, they will chant Islamic Slogans indeed but there are Sikhs to protesting against IA. Tamils protested in Favour of Kashmiris too so how many brand names will be needed to divert focus from real issue.

How many those sikhs and Tamilians are protesting against IA in the name of "Religion"?
none actually but as the above video clearly mentions for likes of Hizbuls and Lashkars its about Islam and Islam only.

it is a religious fight as simple as that .

 

[padamchen]

So as per you India asked successor of good burhan wani Zakir musa to urge people to throw stones in the name of Islam ?

here is a video for u.

watch from 00:34 sec onwars

let me also put the verbatim

"
Jo muslam bhai hain humare . .unko mai kehna chahta hoon ke wo jab bhi Patthar uthaye . .to wo Islam ke liye ho. wo Kashmir ke liye ya kisi Watan ke liye Naa ho . . .kisi wataniyat ki jang na ho . . .wo khali or sirf khali Islam ke liye ho . . . sab logo ko bataiye ki matlab jo Nationalism hai matlab wataniyat hai ye to Islam me Haram karar di gayi hai.

"

so whose words should i take as face value ?

a nobody from internet or a guy who actually has picked guns against my nation and fighting for the so called azadi ??




How many those sikhs and Tamilians are protesting against IA in the name of "Religion"?
none actually but as the above video clearly mentions for likes of Hizbuls and Lashkars its about Islam and Islam only.

it is a religious fight as simple as that .

There is zero doubt in my mind about it.

But my point to The Eagle was that the gloves are still on coz technically they are still our people.

 

[The Eagle]

India is none of those countries. It's bigger than all of them combined.

The Indian Army is not an Arab army. It is the fourth most powerful fighting force in the world. It is a sledgehammer. Which has been reduced to a tiny bell hammer in Kashmir.

Once it's open war, you'll get to see really what the ISIS is in front of a real army.

Wrong reference (red highlighted) as there is no need to provoke other countries like this. You totally miss the point. Countries like Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan & Libya were quoted as where ISIS entered and if you are talking about to handle ISIS, then we can highlight NATO/All the world hunting them yet couldn't deal with it totally. See this is the issue of wrongly seeing a post. I quoted those Countries as Entry Point of ISIS and see what happened till today, a total mess. There is no mentioning that India is one of those countries but India (lets assume as ISIS war in IoK is not started) wants to be like those who are trying to eliminate ISIS. That is why I said, read those countries as ISIS entry point and check aftermath of such strategy then. Hope you understand.

 

[padamchen]

Wrong reference (red highlighted) as there is no need to provoke other countries like this. You totally miss the point. Countries like Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan & Libya were quoted as where ISIS entered and if you are talking about to handle ISIS, then we can highlight NATO/All the world hunting them yet couldn't deal with it totally. See this is the issue of wrongly seeing a post. I quoted those Countries as Entry Point of ISIS and see what happened till today, a total mess. There is no mentioning that India is one of those countries but India (lets assume as ISIS war in IoK is not started) wants to be like those who are trying to eliminate ISIS. That is why I said, read those countries as ISIS entry point and check aftermath of such strategy then. Hope you understand.

I understand exactly what you wrote and meant.

Maybe you are not understanding what I did when you try to be "fair" or "balanced" or generally non provocative and try and equate India to them on an equal playing field.

It is not.

I'll go a step further.

None of those armies fought against the seventh largest army in the world and won.

We've done it four times.

So ....

 

[The Eagle]

So as per you India asked successor of good burhan wani Zakir musa to urge people to throw stones in the name of Islam ?

here is a video for u.

watch from 00:34 sec onwars

let me also put the verbatim

"
Jo muslam bhai hain humare . .unko mai kehna chahta hoon ke wo jab bhi Patthar uthaye . .to wo Islam ke liye ho. wo Kashmir ke liye ya kisi Watan ke liye Naa ho . . .kisi wataniyat ki jang na ho . . .wo khali or sirf khali Islam ke liye ho . . . sab logo ko bataiye ki matlab jo Nationalism hai matlab wataniyat hai ye to Islam me Haram karar di gayi hai.

"

so whose words should i take as face value ?

a nobody from internet or a guy who actually has picked guns against my nation and fighting for the so called azadi ??




How many those sikhs and Tamilians are protesting against IA in the name of "Religion"?
none actually but as the above video clearly mentions for likes of Hizbuls and Lashkars its about Islam and Islam only.

it is a religious fight as simple as that .

A very simple understanding as I will repeat again that Everyone of Kashmir Struggle will convince people in the name of respective affiliation against one common enemy as India in IoK. You are convinced with your simplicity and I am not here to convince you with another thing so you can carry on with you understanding of IoK yet it is all about strategy. It is a religious fight because India said so but none other believe it as it isn't at all. TTP always said the same as in the name of Islam and not for territory and this is the same pattern which speaks volume of strategy, India trying to apply in IoK as well.

I understand exactly what you wrote and meant.

Maybe you are not understanding what I did when you try to be "fair" or "balanced" or generally non provocative and try and equate India to them on an equal playing field.

It is not.

I'll go a step further.

None of those armies fought against the seventh largest army in the world and won.

We've done it four times.

So ....

Is that the subject here? Hey! whole NATO is fighting ISIS including Russia but of no avail till now as conventional military war is far different than Militia/Gorilla war like war against ISIS/AQ type factions. Iraq etc were quoted as ISIS Entry point like in this so called article, IoK can be compared with those countries when ISIS shows presence and IA is going against. There was no mentioning of India being those countries.

Regards,

 

[padamchen]

A very simple understanding as I will repeat again that Everyone of Kashmir Struggle will convince people in the name of respective affiliation against one common enemy as India in IoK. You are convinced with your simplicity and I am not here to convince you with another thing so you can carry on with you understanding of IoK yet it is all about strategy. It is a religious fight because India said so but none other believe it as it isn't at all. TTP always said the same as in the name of Islam and not for territory and this is the same pattern which speaks volume of strategy, India trying to apply in IoK as well.



Is that the subject here? Hey! whole NATO is fighting ISIS including Russia but of no avail till now as conventional military war is far different than Militia/Gorilla war like war against ISIS/AQ type factions. Iraq etc were quoted as ISIS Entry point like in this so called article, IoK can be compared with those countries when ISIS shows presence and IA is going against. There was no mentioning of India being those countries.

Regards,

The "whole NATO" are not boots on the ground.

We live here. It is our land. And there are 1.3 billion of us.

P.S. It is guerrilla war. Gorilla is a black hairy primate.

P.P.S. Also please remember. They are all fighting each other in the GUISE of fighting the ISIS.

It's the world's biggest snake pit right now.