Mechanised Divisions Pakistan Army

[Raja Porus]

Forgive my long hiatus, but was just wondering whether the Phase-1 order of AK-1s (110xtks) was meant to equip 2 standard armoured regiments, or 3 recce regts. would appreciate a response.

Armoured regts. Since they are in IBGs(karachi).

 

[Cuirassier]

Armoured regts. Since they are in IBGs(karachi).

IABGs or directly under 25 Mech Div?

 

[Raja Porus]

IABGs or directly under 25 Mech Div?

In the IABG that is most probably under 25 mech, Malir.

 

[GriffinsRule]

Ukraine should be a lesson to all Muslim countries like Pakistan tho. Sending weapons to Rohingya or to any other Muslim group resisting occupation isn’t wrong. If west can support Ukrainians against Russia and openly send weapons then why can’t we against an irrelevant state like Burma? This is the perfect time as well because world won’t care about such irrelevant states and won’t even care to stop us.

BIG lesson for Muslim states. NO ONE IS YOUR ALLY EXCEPT YOUR SELVES. STOP SUCKING WEST’S D*ck and grow some balls and stand for what you believe in!

No one will come defend us, no one will help us , no one will care about us. Only people who will help us are our Muslim brothers. Quit the crying sanctions and help our Muslim brothers around the world.

PDFers crying there’s no ummah. Man the whites are more united then you. Look at the whites “ummah” work. A white nation was attacked all came to its defence yet y’all want to continue fighting your brothers.

@PanzerKiel you tell me your self, what is the difference between Ukraine and say Palestine or Kashmir or Rohingyas etc? You said your self rn others are behind this. Why shall we muslim countries and Muslim armies stay quiet and see our Muslim brothers get massacred mercilessly around the world? Where’s our ghairat? Where’s the only Muslim nuclear power in the world? Where’s the largest Muslim army in the world why can’t we provide atgms and manpads to our fellow Muslim brothers or our own people our jugular view Kashmir? Why don’t we have Javid Nasir’s or Hameed Gul’s in our army anymore?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498488294413373448

40 miles long

In case you forgot, we rather send those weapons to Burma instead of Rohingyas.

Reminds me of a verse...kawwa chala hans ki chal, apni bhi bhool giya.

Before trying to emulate the European powers, that can openly send weapons to groups that help them with their strategic goals (not out of brotherly feelings or religion) make yourself capable first and rise to their level. Talk is cheap otherwise.

 

[Signalian]

Double minded whether Russian convoy is stalled coz of supply, break down, resistance or are Russians waiting for a strategic political point in time to occur.

 

[Tipu7]

Double minded whether Russian convoy is stalled coz of supply, break down, resistance or are Russians waiting for a strategic political point in time to occur.

My 2cents:

Russians have dominance over the battlefield. They can concentrate their forces as they perceive no threat from Ukraine - atleast in that war theater.
Plus,
Russians are avoiding muddy routes for movement of wheeled vehicles. There have been incidents where wheeled vehicles have been trapped and eventually abandoned by Russians.
The convoy, IMO, is there waiting for next decision to be made. Till then, it's 'posturing war strength'.

 

[Signalian]

My 2cents:

Russians have dominance over the battlefield. They can concentrate their forces as they perceive no threat from Ukraine - atleast in that war theater.
Plus,
Russians are avoiding muddy routes for movement of wheeled vehicles. There have been incidents where wheeled vehicles have been trapped and eventually abandoned by Russians.
The convoy, IMO, is there waiting for next decision to be made. Till then, it's 'posturing war strength'.

End of feb was a good time in regards to weather. No more snow hopefully. Going in towards summers from now on.

 

[Oldman1]

End of feb was a good time in regards to weather. No more snow hopefully. Going in towards summers from now on.

Which is another reason to target convoys that just staying on the roads. They are not spread out left and right in the fields.

 

[Signalian]

@PanzerKiel

For M-113, its the the driver and the commander in the driver’s compartment and 10 men in the personnel compartment. Can additional five troops be seated on the floor between the personnel compartment troop seats ?

 

[Pappa Alpha]

Does Pakistan have any top down attack anti tank weapons like Javelin or MBT LAW?
If not then why? Is there no suitable Chinese equivalent?

PS: Sorry if this is not relevant to the thread.

 

[PanzerKiel]

@PanzerKiel

For M-113, its the the driver and the commander in the driver’s compartment and 10 men in the personnel compartment. Can additional five troops be seated on the floor between the personnel compartment troop seats ?

Total complement is 13 including driver and commander. They are already very cramped, because apart from their integral weapons they are having the first line ammo of all these weapons and communication sets as well.

 

[Signalian]

Total complement is 13 including driver and commander. They are already very cramped, because apart from their integral weapons they are having the first line ammo of all these weapons and communication sets as well.

M-59 had this capacity. It's width was 3.26m compared to M-113 with width 2.68m. Length and height was bit more too.

 

[PanzerKiel]

M-59 had this capacity. It's width was 3.26m compared to M-113 with width 2.68m. Length and height was bit more too.


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We however choose M113 somehow. Possible reasons can be..

-range of M59 is 150-190 kms, while for M113 is 480 kms.
- M59 is petrol driven, two engines, while M113 has a single diesel engine
-M59 top speed is 32 miles/hour, while M113 is 42 miles / hour

 

[Signalian]

We however choose M113 somehow. Possible reasons can be..

-range of M59 is 150-190 kms, while for M113 is 480 kms.
- M59 is petrol driven, two engines, while M113 has a single diesel engine
-M59 top speed is 32 miles/hour, while M113 is 42 miles / hour

and when will PA transition beyond M-113

say towards an IFV

 

[PanzerKiel]

and when will PA transition beyond M-113

say towards an IFV

I was exactly thinking yesterday night on this subject, deep thoughts.....once i saw the news that an IDF Namer had turned turtle, injuring its complement.

Transitioning towards equipment is one thing, logically our doctrine must first change, following which the equipment required to enable that doctrine on battlefield should be procured. Thats how logically it should go ahead.