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CAIRO Thousands of opponents and supporters of Egypt's Islamist president began massing in city squares in competing rallies Sunday, gearing up for a day of massive nationwide protests that many fear could turn deadly as the opposition seeks to push out Mohammed Morsi.

Waving Egyptian flags, crowds descended on Tahrir Square in the heart of Cairo, one of multiple sites in the capital and around the country where they plan rallies. Chants of "erhal!" or "leave!," rang out in the square, birthplace of the 2011 uprising that toppled autocrat Hosni Mubarak.

On the other side of Cairo, thousands of the Islamist leader's backers gathered not far from the presidential palace in a show of support. Some wore homemade body armor and construction hats and carried shields and clubs — precautions, they said, against possible violence.

There is a sense among opponents and supporters of Morsi that Sunday's rally is a make-or-break day, hiking worries that the two camps will come to blows despite vows by each to remain peaceful. Already at least seven people, including an American, have been killed in clashes the past week, mainly in Nile Delta cities and the coastal city of Alexandria.

The demonstrations on Sunday, the anniversary of Morsi's inauguration as Egypt's first freely elected leader, are the culmination of growing polarization since he took office.

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In one camp are the president and his Islamist allies, including the Muslim Brotherhood and more hard-line groups. They have vowed to defend Morsi, saying street demonstrations cannot be allowed to remove a freely elected leader.

The other is an array of secular and liberal Egyptians as well as moderate Muslims and Christians — and what the opposition says is a broad sector of the general public that has turned against the Islamists. They say the Islamists have overstepped their election mandate, accusing them of trying to monopolize power and woefully mismanaging the country.

The opposition believes that with sheer numbers in the street, it can pressure Morsi to step down — perhaps with the added weight of the powerful military if it signals the president should go.

"Today, the people will triumph over fascism," prominent pro-democracy campaigner and bestselling novelist Alaa al-Aswany wrote on his Twitter account.

Underlining the potential for deadly violence, a flurry of police reports on Sunday spoke of the seizure of firearms, explosives and even artillery shells in various locations of the country, including Alexandria and the outskirts of Cairo.

In an interview published Sunday in The Guardian, Morsi — who has three years left in his term — said he had no plans to meet the protesters' demand for an early presidential election.

"If we changed someone in office who (was elected) according to constitutional legitimacy — well, there will (be) people or opponents opposing the new president too, and a week or a month later, they will ask him to step down," Morsi told the British daily.

"There is no room for any talk against this constitutional legitimacy," he said.

As the crowds swelled in Tahrir, traffic in the capital's normally clogged streets was light at midday as many residents chose to stay home for fear of violence or a wave of crime similar to the one that swept Egypt during the 18-day, anti-Mubarak uprising. Banks were closing early and most government departments were either closed for the day or were thinly staffed. Most schools and colleges are already closed for the summer holidays.

Thousands of Morsi's supporters have staged a sit-in since Friday in front of the Rabia al-Adawiya Mosque near the Ittihadiya presidential palace. In the evening, anti-Morsi crowds plan to march on the palace, and Morsi supporters have vowed to defend it if it is attacked.

The opposition protests emerge from a petition campaign by a youth activist group known as Tamarod, Arabic for "rebel." For several months, the group has been collecting signatures on a call for Morsi to step down. On Saturday the group announced it had more than 22 million signatures — proof, it claims, that a broad sector of the public no longer wants Morsi in office.

It was not possible to verify the claim. Morsi's supporters have questioned the authenticity and validity of the signatures, but have produced no evidence of fraud.

Morsi, who has three years left in his presidential term, claims that Mubarak loyalists are behind the planned protests. His supporters say Tamarod is a cover for thugs loyal to Mubarak.

The 22 million signatures, while they have no legal weight, deal a symbolic blow to Morsi at a time when he is widely seen by Egyptians to have failed to tackle the country's most pressing problems, from surging crime rates and high unemployment to fuel shortages and power outages.

If verified, the number of people who signed the petition calling on Morsi to step down would be nearly twice the number who voted for him a year ago in a run-off that he won with around 52 percent of the vote. Tamarod organizers said they discarded about 100,000 signed forms because they were duplicates.

Adding to his troubles, eight lawmakers from the country's interim legislature announced their resignation Saturday to protest Morsi's policies. The 270-seat chamber was elected early last year by less than 10 percent of Egypt's eligible voters, and is dominated by Islamists.

A legal adviser to Morsi also announced his resignation late Saturday in protest of what he said was Morsi's insult of judges in his latest speech on Wednesday.

With a sense of doom hanging over the country, Defense Minister Gen. Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi last week gave the president and his opponents a week to reach a compromise and warned that the military would intervene to prevent the nation from entering a "dark tunnel." The weeklong ultimatum expires on Sunday.

Army troops backed by armored vehicles were deployed Sunday in some of Cairo's suburbs, with soldiers, some in combat gear, stood at traffic lights and major intersections.

Morsi had called for national reconciliation talks in a Wednesday speech but offered no specifics. Opposition leaders dismissed the call as cosmetics.

Asked by The Guardian whether he was confident that the army would not intervene if the country becomes ungovernable, Morsi replied, "Very."

The Egyptian leader, however, said he did not know in advance of el-Sissi's comments last week

Massive protests in Egypt begin - CBS News
 
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so called Muslim Brotherhood taught they could rule a country with Salafism/Wahhabism/Takfirism and this is the result .... now they are going to lose power ... because their ideology only putting hatred in people heart ... people see what these morons are doing in Syria and they get scared ... they fear this kind of Islam and prefer secularism over it .....

this is something that these moron can't understand .....

now , this is about time that west pick Syria and Libya fruits (Salafism/Takfrism actions ) in Egypt and begin 2nd revolution but this time an westernizes revolution ...

soon , other so called Muslims parties will lose power in north of Africa and in the end this kind of pics will be accept by rest of world as ISLAM true nature ....


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so called Muslim Brotherhood taught they could rule a country with Salafism/Wahhabism/Takfirism and this is the result .... now they are going to lose power ... because their ideology only putting hatred in people heart ... people see what these morons are doing in Syria and they get scared ... they fear this kind of Islam and prefer secularism over it .....

this is something that these moron can't understand .....

now , this is about time that west pick Syria and Libya fruits (Salafism/Takfrism actions ) in Egypt and begin 2nd revolution but this time an westernizes revolution ...

soon , other so called Muslims parties will lose power in north of Africa and in the end this kind of pics will be accept by rest of world as ISLAM true nature ....
Again smart boy, those demonstrations have nothing to do with Syria and Iran, I myself loath MB. However, both opposition and MB try to get popularity by showing more enmity to Iran, they try to top each others in that. MB or any other regime will be ani-Iran as it's a sworn enemy.
 
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All you liberal Egyptians should learn the meaning of the word DEMOCRACY. It does not mean you have to MOCK the Majority's MANDATE. There were Elections and you guys lost. Muslim Brotherhood won so go home and wait for next elections. Majority rules otherwise there would be Chaos on the street. Most of the mayhem in Egypt is caused by thee COPTIC and there Liberal Muslim Egyptians. The problem is you guys are a minority and you lost the ELECTIONS. Now enough of this stupidity, please go home and tend to your Business.
 
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All you liberal Egyptians should learn the meaning of the word DEMOCRACY. It does not mean you have to MOCK the Majority's MANDATE. There were Elections and you guys lost. Muslim Brotherhood won so go home and wait for next elections. Majority rules otherwise there would be Chaos on the street. Most of the mayhem in Egypt is caused by thee COPTIC and there Liberal Muslim Egyptians. The problem is you guys are a minority and you lost the ELECTIONS. Now enough of this stupidity, please go home and tend to your Business.

It is the phony Islamist regime that doesn't understand the terms legitimacy and accountability nor does it understand that democracy is far more than a majority (2% more than Shafiq) of ballots in a plastic box.

Firstly, these protests consist of more than one sect of Egyptian society. These protests include socilasts, liberals, seculars and Islamists (salafists) as well as those who have no political or ideological affiliations. Proof of this is that theses protests are the largest in Egyptian history, larger than those that toppled the former regime.

The MB only gained power because the revolutionary parties and figures supported Morsi over Shafiq and now after a million broken promises and the blood on their hands they can only blame and tarnish others for the chaos they have caused due to their stupid policies and perverse political agenda.

Please refrain from using sectarian language and I would suggest a few books to freshen up on your democratic principles.
 
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so are Egyptions going to do anything useful this decade? You know, other than just government changes and what not.

China went through this in the early part of the 20th century, wasn't fun and certainly wasn't useful.
 
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I'm tired this crap. They are embarassing themselves to the world. When Mubarak was toppled, a new leader was elected and they want him out, they'll elect another leader and vice versa all over again as you've heard supporters said they'll cause chaos if they take over and vice versa for the opposition. They all need to STFU and need to do a dialogue.
 
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I'm tired this crap. They are embarassing themselves to the world. When Mubarak was toppled, a new leader was elected and they want him out, they'll elect another leader and vice versa all over again as you've heard supporters said they'll cause chaos if they take over and vice versa for the opposition. They all need to STFU and need to do a dialogue.
Hitler was elected..... Human rights are not up for voting.
 
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I'm tired this crap. They are embarassing themselves to the world. When Mubarak was toppled, a new leader was elected and they want him out, they'll elect another leader and vice versa all over again as you've heard supporters said they'll cause chaos if they take over and vice versa for the opposition. They all need to STFU and need to do a dialogue.

The current regime has already embarrassed and disgraced Egyptians all around the world.

Being elected doesn't mean that one can be unaccountable or that their legitimacy and mandate can go unquestioned especially when the constitution and common law do not prevent or outlaw peaceful protest against the regime.

The argument against Tamarod that it would bring about chaos is frankly insulting. If the regime is overthrown it would only lead to a transitional phase which this time would ensure the country would have a legitimate constitution as a result of consensus among all Egyptians. The country would be lead by broad national intervention council and the judiciary and not the SCAF .

If some resort to violence as a result then they will be dealt with according to the law and experience from previous regimes.
 
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@Frogman @MooshMoosh @agentny17

Screw the Governments, all what we should worry about is the Egyptian people, nothing more.

I agree... We should fight for a constitution that limits the government interference in our personal life and freedom in general. We pay their salaries(Taxes), so their job is to provide a good service, and protect us. Its their job!! Islamists wants the government to control our personal lives, and freedom and this should not be accepted.
 
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I agree... We should fight for a constitution that limits the government interference in our personal life and freedom in general. We pay their salaries(Taxes), so their job is to provide a good service, and protect us. Its their job!! Islamists wants the government to control our personal lives, and freedom and this should not be accepted.

The issue is that Egypt's social structure is a bit complicated. If you remember, last time you and I spoke together I told you that the conservatives are powerful as they control a considerable portion of Egypt's population. In a nutshell, the only option the liberals and the conservatives have is to make some concessions on everybody's end, otherwise Egypt will turn into nothing but an absolute turmoil.

The objective of Jan25 revolution should be cherished for eternity.
 
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The issue is that Egypt's social structure is a bit complicated. If you remember, last time you and I spoke together I told you that the conservatives are powerful as they control a considerable portion of Egypt's population. In a nutshell, the only option the liberals and the conservatives have is to make some concessions on everybody's end, otherwise Egypt will turn into nothing but an absolute turmoil.

The objective of Jan25 revolution should be cherished for eternity.

I disagree here. Conservatives have a lot of support within the poor and the illiterate, especially in Southern Egypt. They have no support what so ever with the army, judges, and police. They also have way less support when it comes to young people and educated people. Them, and the people who support them don't have the ability to win any conflict. Political Islam is coming to an end in Egypt sooner or later.
 
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@<u><a href="http://www.defence.pk/forums/member.php?u=146673" target="_blank">Frogman</a></u> @<u><a href="http://www.defence.pk/forums/member.php?u=145793" target="_blank">MooshMoosh</a></u> @<u><a href="http://www.defence.pk/forums/member.php?u=35695" target="_blank">agentny17</a></u>

Screw the Governments, all what we should worry about is the Egyptian people, nothing more.
Lol, the army vowed to defend the people and will never allow a civil war. Just look at 2011, did they follow Mubarak's order or was he forced to resign? The army isn't like extreme sectarian Iran, Iraq and Syrian army. They will intervene and may deploy heavy vehicles with blank bullets and to defend both supporters and opposition until peace is restored :cheers:

I don't know where's the full version but this is the one I found
 
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Lol, the army vowed to defend the people and will never allow a civil war. Just look at 2011, did they follow Mubarak's order or was he forced to resign? The army isn't like sectarian Iran, Iraq and Syria. They will intervene and may deploy heavy vehicles with blank bullets and to defend both supporters and opposition. :cheers:

I don't know where's the full version but this is the one I found
Egyptian Minister of Defense: We Will Not Allow Egypt to Enter a Civil War - YouTube

I didn't bring the military up, I was talking about the whole mess in general.
 
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