Massacre of Muslim students in Burma

[Dillinger]

why that is propaganda, the true fact we need to share, but before that China and India need to be on same page on this issue

Oye sahib, its still called a propaganda campaign since it is the dissemination of information towards achieving a political purpose. And yes its a political purpose since its a nation to nation interaction which is being aimed for here. Its a matter of semantics so chad yaar.

China and India are rarely on the same page. That would be trickier than getting the Burmese to stop the persecution in the 1st place.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Pakistan can also play vital role to pressure China to Talk Burmese regime and stop violation

Can they? Would they?

Myanmar is also a candidate customer for the JF-17

 

[Mech]

Can they? Would they?

Myanmar is also a candidate customer for the JF-17

Oh the lol train never ends....."lol"

 

[BDforever]

Oye sahib, its still called a propaganda campaign since it is the dissemination of information towards achieving a political purpose. And yes its a political purpose since its a nation to nation interaction which is being aimed for here. Its a matter of semantics so chad yaar.

China and India are rarely on the same page. That would be trickier than getting the Burmese to stop the persecution in the 1st place.

i wish i would be foreign minister, i have certain plan which can bring our whole region on same page.. ahem ahem

 

[Dillinger]

Your idea is good, but there is no commitment from BD's mainstream media gurus for that kind of strategy.

Umm. that commitment can't arise from some gut feeling, "public sentiment", religious solidarity. It will only stem from a strategic and political decision of the GOB, if it does to begin with anyway, towards achieving stability in the region and putting a stop to the exodus.

Let me repeat, it must be directed by the GOB and other concerned agencies towards an unified goal of achieving the objective of prominently highlighting the situation in Burma in such a manner that it becomes politically untenable for other nations to ignore it anymore.

i wish i would be foreign minister, i have certain plan which can bring our whole region on same page.. ahem ahem

You plan to give me a life time free supply of Ilish mach? That might indeed iron out some issues.

 

[BDforever]

You plan to give me a life time free supply of Ilish mach? That might indeed iron out some issues.

my plan is to make the region as united force like Union of Asian Countries (UAC) like that ?

dam it.. @liontk is here... he knows my plan now

 

[Zabaniyah]

Umm. that commitment can't arise from some gut feeling, "public sentiment", religious solidarity. It will only stem from a strategic and political decision of the GOB, if it does to begin with anyway, towards achieving stability in the region and putting a stop to the exodus.

Let me repeat, it must be directed by the GOB and other concerned agencies towards an unified goal of achieving the objective of prominently highlighting the situation in Burma in such a manner that it becomes politically untenable for other nations to ignore it anymore.

"Religious solidarity"? Hmm....

Let tell you some facts on the ground as far as BD media is concerned.

The Daily Star/Prothom Alo for instance are some of the most widely circulated newspapers in the country. They are hardcore secularists as well. So "religious solidarity" is not their cup of tea.

Another thing is that people like Mahfuz Anam (DS's chief editor) make most of his money out of sources that do not have anything to do with his field. Duniar poisha mare.

That similarly applies to other English-language newspapers. And let's not forget about BD's legendary journalist, Shariar Kabir

Suffice to day, Bangladesh doesn't have the will to influence global media and opinions in general. They do have the necessary connections, but not the will.

The GoB isn't doing anything about the Rohingya issue. How can they address the entire situation in Myanmar? They won't. For them, money is power (sadly).

Your idea is very good nonetheless.

 

[liontk]

Sad story and I am not going to comment on the assetion even though I would love to , seem a little out of place in the face of this news. It is like a mini holocaust happening in front of our eyes but we are too busy watching 'tout le monde' or other trendy stuff. Such is the cruel reality of life, hopefully we can look past identities and treat each other as humans first.
@BDforever, may be next time I will answer, reading this has got me somewhat depressed

 

[Dillinger]

"Religious solidarity"? Hmm....

Let tell you some facts on the ground as far as BD media is concerned.

The Daily Star/Prothom Alo for instance are some of the most widely circulated newspapers in the country. They are hardcore secularists as well. So "religious solidarity" is not their cup of tea.

Another thing is that people like Mahfuz Anam (DS's chief editor) make most of his money out of sources that do not have anything to do with his field. Duniar poisha mare.

That similarly applies to other English-language newspapers. And let's not forget about BD's legendary journalist, Shariar Kabir

Suffice to day, Bangladesh doesn't have the will to influence global media and opinions in general. They do have the necessary connections, but not the will.

The GoB isn't doing anything about the Rohingya issue. How can they address the entire situation in Myanmar? They won't. For them, money is power (sadly).

Your idea is very good nonetheless.

Yaara that's why I said that religious solidarity and shouts of "Ummah" CAN'T help the Rohingyas in this situation.

In fact you are right, the minute you turn this into a religious matter there will be other interested parties that will enter the equation..the focus will shift from the plight of the Rohingyas to how Myanmar is becoming the latest target of Muslim fanaticism.

The rest of your post is news to me, how can the GOB not have any contingency plan or at least some vague notion of what it must do if the situation worsens and exigent circumstances arise?
@BDforever

Won't work...we will never give up our big sick unless it brings us gain and leaves us dominant..kind of like Germany+UK in the EU.

But on a serious note. I don't see India doing anything over this in the future other than issuing statements...and that too carefully. We need that Sitwe port and the natural gas.

 

[illusion8]

Yaara that's why I said that religious solidarity and shouts of "Ummah" CAN'T help the Rohingyas in this situation.

In fact you are right, the minute you turn this into a religious matter there will be other interested parties that will enter the equation..the focus will shift from the plight of the Rohingyas to how Myanmar is becoming the latest target of Muslim fanaticism.

The rest of your post is new to me, how can the GOB not have any contingency plan or at least some vague notion of what it must do if the situation worsens and exigent circumstances arise?
@BDforever

Won't work...we will never give up our big sick unless it brings us gain and leaves us dominant..kind of like Germany+UK in the EU.

But on a serious note. I don't see India doing anything over this in the future other than issuing statements...and that too carefully. We need that Sitwe port and the natural gas.

Loki says that these are chinese origin Muslims and not rohingyas - so it's purely a religious hate movement.

 

[Dillinger]

Loki says that these are chinese origin Muslims - so it's purely a religious hate movement.

The solution to it cannot be driven through notions of religious solidarity, that is what I was impressing upon him. Beyond that the situation is religious as well ethnically driven.

 

[illusion8]

The solution to it cannot be driven through notions of religious solidarity, that is what I was impressing upon him. Beyond that the situation is religious as well ethnically driven.

So why can't the situation be viewed as it truly is and that's religious hatred - for a moment let's even consider that the rohingya's face hatred for the assumption that they are outsiders - what's the buddhist's beef with the chinese origin Muslims then? assuming what's happening in Sri Lanka though not drastic as killings or genocide in Burma - but the hatred is there in the open. What I am trying to find is the source for this hatred.

 

[Dillinger]

So why can't the situation be viewed as it truly is and that's religious hatred - for a moment let's even consider that the rohingya's face hatred for the assumption that they are outsiders - what's the buddhist's beef with the chinese origin Muslims then? assuming what's happening in Sri Lanka though not drastic as killings or genocide in Burma - but the hatred is there in the open. What I am trying to find is the source for this hatred.

Oh yaara I already said that the problem is driven by religious and ethnic persecution. That's one part.

The other part, what I am referring to it that even as we acknowledge that the problem as arisen due to the above its solution cannot be driven by some religious initiative.

Hope that clears it up.

 

[Kloitra]

So why can't the situation be viewed as it truly is and that's religious hatred - for a moment let's even consider that the rohingya's face hatred for the assumption that they are outsiders - what's the buddhist's beef with the chinese origin Muslims then? assuming what's happening in Sri Lanka though not drastic as killings or genocide in Burma - but the hatred is there in the open. What I am trying to find is the source for this hatred.

It is ethnic. It didn't happened just to Muslims, but other ethnic groups too:

Burmese Indians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

At the start of World War II, almost half of Rangoon's (Yangon) population was Indian,[6] and about 16% of the population of Burma was ethnically Indian.[10] As a consequence of the Japanese invasion of 1942, half a million members of the Indian community fled Burma overland into Assam, largely on foot. The refugees suffered terribly and thousands died. Some of the Indian community remained in Burma during the war, others returned after the war, although many never did.[8] After Independence, Burmese law treated a large percentage of the Indian community as "resident aliens". Though many had long ties to Burma or were born there, they were not considered citizens under the 1982 Burma citizenship law which restricted citizenship for groups immigrating before 1823.[11]

After he seized power through a military coup in 1962, General Ne Win ordered a large-scale expulsion of Indians. Although many Indians had been living in Burma for generations and had integrated into Burmese society, they became a target for discrimination and oppression by the junta. This, along with a wholesale nationalization of private ventures in 1964, led to the emigration of over 300,000 ethnic Indians from Burma.[8] Indian-owned businesses were nationalized and their owners were given 175 kyat for their trip to India. This caused a significant deterioration in Indian-Burmese relations and the Indian government arranged ferries and aircraft to lift Burmese of Indian ethnicity out of Burma.[12]

 

[illusion8]

Oh yaara I already said that the problem is driven by religious and ethnic persecution. That's one part.

The other part, what I am referring to it that even as we acknowledge that the problem as arisen due to the above its solution cannot be driven by some religious initiative.

Hope that clears it up.

The problem is the non religious bodies of the world is not concerned so it directly falls on the shoulders of the Islamists and the hardliners.