Mass Riots and Human Rights Violations in US: Can They Preach China?

[JSCh]

Okay, One innocent people and 4 police inspector died and I never said we are perfect.

But can you tell me how many US people were shot to death by US police per year?

You have to be careful when you read news about China from the west.

As far as I know, nobody dies in this particular incident. The news that Chengguan kill someone is a rumor started in the internet that caused a riot. That riot injured 5 chengguan with all hospitalized and 2 in critical conditions. And police has start an investigation into who start the rumor.

And the so called "police inspector",
City Urban Administrative and Law Enforcement Bureau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The City Urban Administrative and Law Enforcement Bureau, commonly shortened to Chengguan (Chinese: 城管; pinyin: Chéngguǎn), is a local government agency that has been established in every city in China.[1]

The agency is usually part of a municipal's City Urban Management Bureau (Chinese: 市城市管理局; pinyin: shì chéngshì guǎnlǐ jú).[2] The agency is in charge with enforcement of urban management of the city. This includes local bylaws, city appearance bylaws, environment, sanitation, work safety, pollution control, health, and can involve enforcement in planning, greening, industry and commerce, environment protection, municipal affairs and water in large cities.[2]

And here is the news story in Chinese with the guy that was rumored to be killed by chengguang telling what happened.

还原温州5名城管临时工打人后遭千人围殴全过程_网易新闻中心

 

[HariPrasad]

State Violence and Mass Anger in Missouri: Pentagon supplied police with military-grade weapons

A police officer watches over demonstrators protesting the shooting death of teenager Michael Brown on August 13, 2014 in Ferguson, Missouri. (Reuters / Getty Images / Scott Olson)

Images coming from a tense Ferguson, Missouri this week show local police armed to the teeth and appearing as an occupying force in attempts to suppress citizen outrage over the fatal shooting of an unarmed teenager by a police officer.

Through its 1033 program, the Pentagon offers hundreds of millions of dollars of surplus military equipment to police forces throughout the US. St. Louis County, which encompasses Ferguson, is part of the program, according to Michelle McCaskill, media relations chief at the Defense Logistics Agency.

“St. Louis County law enforcement agencies received twelve 5.56 millimeter rifles and six .45 caliber pistols from the Department of Defense between Aug. 2, 2010, and Feb. 13, 2013,” a Missouri public safety official confirmed to USA Today.

A police officer holds his riot gun while demonstrators protest the shooting death of teenager Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri August 13, 2014. (Reuters / Mario Anzuoni)

As RT has previously reported time and time again, local police forces across the United States havebenefited from the militarized mindset of the post-9/11, “war on terror” era, as wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and funding from the likes of the US Department of Homeland Security have resulted in a mass proliferation of military-grade weaponry.

And, as seen in Ferguson or during the Occupy protests, police forces have used these arms and M-RAPs against domestic uprisings, not to fight some terrorist menace. "The United States of America has become a war zone," as one Indiana sheriff said to justify his department’s use of military vehicles in his county of 13,000 people.

Video captured in Ferguson have shown citizens fired at by St. Louis County police with tear gas cannisters while standing on their own private property.

Millions of dollars’ worth of military gear is distributed to local police forces on an annual basis, the New York Times reported in June. These regular exchanges are occurring from coast to coast in towns and cities that are hardly considered epicenters of violent crime, let alone on par with the foreign war zones where these hand-me-downs — machine guns, armored cars and other made-for-battle items — were originally intended to be used.

Tweets from the region:

Top: Baghdad, Iraq - Bottom: #Ferguson, Missouri.

These photos show the striking similarity between the police in Ferguson and troops in Iraq

Police, for some unfathomable reason, were pointing guns at unarmed civilians

Rich Porter @AC_Hussle

My boy in the service said he didn't even have as much armor in Iraq as the officers have in #Ferguson smh

10:34 PM - 14 Aug 2014

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#Ferguson heavily armed police in military gear arriving on armed personnel carriers now

6:46 AM - 14 Aug 2014

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Iraq veteran on #Ferguson "police" weaponry, gear: "We rolled lighter than that in an actual warzone." http://www.businessinsider.com/police-militarization-ferguson-2014-8…

7:52 AM - 13 Aug 2014

An another failed attempt by a chinese to establish a parity of Human right record of US with that of china. Simply ridiculous!!!!!!!!

 

[Kyle Sun]

You have to be careful when you read news about China from the west.

As far as I know, nobody dies in this particular incident. The news that Chengguan kill someone is a rumor started in the internet that caused a riot. That riot injured 5 chengguan with all hospitalized and 2 in critical conditions. And police has start an investigation into who start the rumor.

And the so called "police inspector",
City Urban Administrative and Law Enforcement Bureau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



And here is the news story in Chinese with the guy that was rumored to be killed by chengguang telling what happened.

还原温州5名城管临时工打人后遭千人围殴全过程_网易新闻中心

I do not want to waste time to argue the truth .

Just assume western media is right , I want this guy tell me how many people killed by police in US.

An another failed attempt by a chinese to establish a parity of Human right record of US with that of china. Simply ridiculous!!!!!!!!

ASK the "niggers" in US , Are they discriminated or not?

 

[gambit]

You do not answer my question.

How many US people are shot down by police per year ?

It is an intellectually dishonest question, simply because our police forces are not the thugs like yours, and we have plenty of evidences about that, do we ? Even you guys had to admitted it.

Nope . I am very satisfied with my job .Salary is ok. Not enough to be luxurious but enough to be abundant.

But with being a Chinese police officer or any other governmental bureaucrats, you have ready access to women for sexual abuse, businessmen to extort, and many many other petty crimes you can get away with.

White americans do have discrimination toward minority americans.

Yeah...That is why so many of them elected a black man to be President.

I do not claim the US to be free of racial issues, but we are far better than your China about it.

You have to be careful when you read news about China from the west.

As far as I know, nobody dies in this particular incident. The news that Chengguan kill someone is a rumor started in the internet that caused a riot. That riot injured 5 chengguan with all hospitalized and 2 in critical conditions. And police has start an investigation into who start the rumor.

And the so called "police inspector",
City Urban Administrative and Law Enforcement Bureau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



And here is the news story in Chinese with the guy that was rumored to be killed by chengguang telling what happened.

还原温州5名城管临时工打人后遭千人围殴全过程_网易新闻中心

That is correct. And no one died in Tiananmen Square.

 

[TaiShang]

An another failed attempt by a chinese to establish a parity of Human right record of US with that of china. Simply ridiculous!!!!!!!!

Ferguson riot reveals U.S. racial divide, human rights flaw

In his landmark speech, "I Have A Dream," civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. voiced his strong aspiration for equal rights of the black people in U.S. society.

Fifty years later, such a dream has been partially realized. The African Americans living in the United States today are enjoying elevated political and social status. Notably, the country is having its first African-American president in history.

However, despite the progress, racial divide still remains a deeply-rooted chronic disease that keeps tearing U.S. society apart, just as manifested by the latest racial riot in Missouri.

Stunned and enraged by the shooting death of an unarmed black teenager by a white police officer, a large number of residents in the suburban St. Louis town in Ferguson took to the streets and staged a tense standoff with police in riot gear.

In history, racial tensions cut deep in U.S. society. Even now, the scar is obviously far from being fully healed.

Some might argue that racial differences and conflicts are unavoidable in a "melting pot" like the United States, where people from virtually every corner of the world converge and seek common lives.

However, it is undeniable that racial discrimination against African Americans or other ethnic minorities, though not as obvious as in the past, still persists in every aspect of U.S. social lives, including employment, housing, education, and particularly, justice.

In the worst U.S. violence in recent times, the acquittal of four white policemen in the beating of a black motorist in 1992 sparked a six-day riot involving thousands of people across the metropolitan area of Los Angeles, leaving an astounding 51 people dead.

In a highly-mixed society like the United States, such racial inequalities could only jeopardize social peace and security. It is highly advisable for the country to make extra efforts to effectively uproot racism in all fields so as to prevent tragedies from recurring.

The Ferguson incident once again demonstrates that even if in a country that has for years tried to play the role of an international human rights judge and defender, there is still much room for improvement at home.

In its annual human rights report issued in February, the United States assaulted almost 200 countries across the world for their so-called poor human rights records.

However, the U.S. human rights flaws extend far beyond racial issues. As revealed by famous whistleblower Edward Snowden, the U.S. government has hacked into emails and mobile phones of ordinary Americans as well as leaders of other countries, including traditional U.S. allies.

What's more, Uncle Sam has witnessed numerous shooting sprees on its own land and launched incessant drone attacks on foreign soil, resulting in heavy civilian casualties.

Each country has its own national conditions that might lead to different social problems. Obviously, what the United States needs to do is to concentrate on solving its own problems rather than always pointing fingers at others.

 

[gambit]

Race Riots Continue in China's Far West - Photo Essays - TIME
Women from Urumqi's community of Uighurs, a Muslim ethnic minority who make up about 10% of the city's population, shout at Chinese riot police in this city of China's far west Xinjiang province on July 7, 2009. Two days before, Uighurs staged protests in Urumqi over discrimination by the Han Chinese. More than 150 people were killed and over 1,400 were wounded in the riots that ensued.

Rising Protests in China - In Focus - The Atlantic
According to research by the Chinese Academy of Governance, the number of protests in China doubled between 2006 and 2010, rising to 180,000 reported "mass incidents."

Police Brutality | Human Rights in China 中国人权 | HRIC

police brutality Archives China Digital Times (CDT)

 

[gambit]

In China, When Police Brutality Is So Common An Off-Duty Officer Gets A Taste

In China, When Police Brutality Is So Common An Off-Duty Officer Gets A Taste

A policewoman from central China’s Henan Province was recently arrested when visiting her daughter in the provincial capital Zhengzhou. Mistakenly accused of being sex workers, the woman and her daughter were beaten, tortured and detained for hours by local police.

How can a female officer be abused by her fellow officers even after she ID-ed herself as one of their own ? Because in China, police abuses of women are so common in the force across the country that no women are to be believed of whatever they say about themselves.

Meet the 'Chengguan': China's Violent, Hated Local Cops - The Atlantic

Last week, a 56 year-old farmer named Deng Zhengjie and his wife arrived in the town of Linwu, Hunan Province, in order to sell watermelon they had grown on their farm. Within a few hours, the municipal police approached them and asked them to move to a designated vendor area. The couple complied. But later, according to eyewitnesses, a scuffle broke out between Deng, his wife, and the police. Multiple policemen began beating the couple, eventually leaving them for dead. Deng's wife survived the attack. Deng did not.

The incident, which sparked outrage throughout the country, was merely the latest violent act attributed to the chengguan, who are China's widely loathed municipal police. Separate from conventional police forces, the chengguan are responsible for managing more quotidian aspects of urban life, such as regulating street vendors and unlicensed construction sites. Thechengguan system was established recently, in 1997, and appear to operate with little oversight. As a result, stories of chengguan brutality are common -- According to Human Rights Watch, Chinese media reported more than 150 incidences of violence involving the chengguan between 2010 and 2012.

The Chinese members here should apply to join the chengguan. Virtually unlimited power, privileges can be extracted locally, and usually feared. The police forces in China have it so much better than their American counterparts.

 

[gambit]

Chinese police beat official's wife by mistake| Reuters

(Reuters) - Plainclothes police severely beat the wife of a provincial official, mistaking her for one of many Chinese who petition government offices in the hope of redressing wrongs, the China Daily reported on Wednesday.

"Does this mean the police are not supposed to beat leaders' wives, but the ordinary people can be battered?" the China Daily quoted an anonymous visitor to Chen's ward as saying.

Yes. Ordinary people are scum in Chinese police's eyes.

 

[C130]

i have news for you , you played and still are playing this game

yup. but should Russia and China stoop so low?
or maybe they are just as bad?

 

[gambit]

German Police Tried For Violence, What About Chinese Police Brutality? - New Tang Dynasty Television (NTD TV)

Ma Xiaoming, former Shaanxi TV editor, reveals that he was illegally arrested and beaten by police on March 8, 2013. The police read Mao Zedong quotes to him. Ma believes the cause of the police brutality is due to Mao’s tyrannical system being kept.

Ma Xiaoming: “Mao died over 30 years ago, but the police quote his words as reasoning to illegally arrest and try us. This indicates that after the Cultural Revolution, although Mao was re-assessed, his huge sins and the historical damage he caused have never been judged. Mao’s remaining tyrannical system is the leading cause of police violence.”

Looks like Mao's thuggishness lives on the Chinese police forces.

In the US, suspects are warned BY THE POLICE to keep their mouths shut lest they self incriminate.

In China, suspects are read Mao's thoughts.

 

[JSCh]

That is correct. And no one died in Tiananmen Square.

Huh? Nobody said anything about Tiananmen Square?

That news story that you posted got many major facts wrong.

Deflecting the subject matter do not change the fact that the news story that you posted is false. And I suspect deliberately so by the author.

Judging by the things that you post, you have a totally misguided understanding of what is the real situation in China. It is hardly surprising if you keep reading this kind of rubbish news source and believing in them.

 

[Kyle Sun]

It is an intellectually dishonest question, simply because our police forces are not the thugs like yours, and we have plenty of evidences about that, do we ? Even you guys had to admitted it.

You still do not answer my question .

But with being a Chinese police officer or any other governmental bureaucrats, you have ready access to women for sexual abuse, businessmen to extort, and many many other petty crimes you can get away with.

Have you been to China ?
Bureaucratism is very serious problem of our GOV, I admit it and Xi is dealing with it now.
This is another topic, and even our police officers have so bad bureaucratism problem , they never kill people on site when he or she is unarmed ,and let alone she or she has surrend.

That is correct. And no one died in Tiananmen Square.

Do not try to shift the topic of this conversation , you post a link which contains incorrect info , just admit it please.

 

[gambit]

Huh? Nobody said anything about Tiananmen Square?

That news story that you posted got many major facts wrong.

Deflecting the subject matter do not change the fact that the news story that you posted is false. And I suspect deliberately so by the author.

Judging by the things that you post, you have a totally misguided understanding of what is the real situation in China. It is hardly surprising if you keep reading this kind of rubbish news source and believing in them.

I said before that your China is an amoral country. Not immoral, because that would imply a moral foundation that one could use as a base to deviate from, but an amoral country, meaning one that has no moral foundation at all.

You want evidences of that ? Look at your own youths, specifically the conservative nationalist types.

Angry Youth - The New Yorker

...the young conservatives are, to China’s ruling class, an unnerving new force. They “are acutely aware that their country, whose resurgence they feel and admire, has no principle to guide it,” Harvey Mansfield wrote in an e-mail to me, after his visit. “Some of them see . . . that liberalism in the West has lost its belief in itself, and they turn to Leo Strauss for conservatism that is based on principle, on ‘natural right.’ This conservatism is distinct from a status-quo conservatism, because they are not satisfied with a country that has only a status quo and not a principle.”

Harvey Mansfield is an American conservative, or in popular language: a neo-con. He was invited by Chinese youth conservatives to speak about how a country can have a moral compass because these young Chinese nationalist and conservatives believes their China have no morals, in other words, an amoral country. They did not call upon the American Communist Party for help. They called an American neo-con.

Your Chinese police brutality is symptom of that amorality. So can we preach to China about human rights ? You bet your undervalued yuan we can.

 

[Kyle Sun]

n the US, suspects are warned BY THE POLICE to keep their mouths shut lest they self incriminate.

Are you telling me US police can shot down a unarmed suspect in case he does not shut up ?

 

[gambit]

You still do not answer my question .

Because it is an intellectually dishonest question.

Are you telling me US police can shot down a unarmed suspect in case he does not shut up ?

No. I do not. But since you are from a country where the concept of personal rights is alien, you would not understand what I said.