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Maoists will overthrow govt much before 2050 : Kishenji

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Dude trust me, these media reports are all rubbish. The presence of maoists in these " thousands of kilometers" cant be labelled as control of maoists over these areas.
These hit and run cowards, can overthrow India is a joke. The reports say that the maoists "plan" to overthrow the govt. by 2050, not that they will. Well their plan is laughable. The home sec. by givin out this statement has hinted at the future of these rebels .:sniper:

Read this personal story from Newsweek about Jharkhand:

Here's an excerpt:

"The state's writ runs only within city limits." When the Maoists call a general strike, railways cancel trains, truckers get off the streets and people in many parts of the state stay indoors. Ambastha and a group of fellow journalists were robbed on a highway once by a gang of armed Maoists. He and his friends fled the scene and begged for help at a local police station, he says. The cops refused to open their gate. Ambastha warned me not to leave town after dark.

Fear Reigns in India's Maoist-Run Countryside - Newsweek.com
 
Breaking news Maoist has overthrown Indian government. They have decided to break India in 30 states. They will give J&K to Pakistan AP to China. OOPS today is not April 1st sorry hehehe.
 
you gave the wrong date. it should be
today is not 01/01/2051. lolz
 
well..its a issue of concern..sincerely admiring the tribal ppl concern..it will take abt 10 years to completely overthrow Maoist as we have just started pumping money and development in to rural areas from our trillion dollar economy..
Arm forces is not a answer here..
 
completely honest statement here:

communists in china, russia and vietnam arose because people were being oppressed and starved to death. the communist party came in and delivered modernization, food and education. In all 3 countries the communist party has made the country better.

if the poor are taken care of, there will not be a rebellion. if the poor are not taken care of it is their right to rebel if their voices are not heard at the ballot box (china 1949, vietnam 1975). think about why the poor are revolting in india.
 
completely honest statement here:

communists in china, russia and vietnam arose because people were being oppressed and starved to death.
the communist party came in and delivered modernization, food and education. In all 3 countries the communist party has made the country better.

if the poor are taken care of, there will not be a rebellion. if the poor are not taken care of it is their right to rebel if their voices are not heard at the ballot box (china 1949, vietnam 1975). think about why the poor are revolting in india.
I hope you are joking...

Famine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The largest famine of the 20th century, and almost certainly of all time, was the 1958–61 Great Leap Forward famine in China.

Land reform in Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Former Hanoi government official Nguyen Minh Can, told RFA’s Vietnamese service: “The land reform was a massacre of innocent, honest people, and using contemporary terms we must say that it was a genocide triggered by class discrimination”.

Some reports said that up to 50,000 people were killed and another 500,000 died gradually in labor camps or from starvation. Almost 1 million of the North Vietnamese people uprooted and left the North to move South because of this event.

By the end of 1956, the Communist Party announced their land reform was a mistake, and a campaign to rectify the error lasted till 1958.
I am no fan of wiki but at least it provide basic information.
 
completely honest statement here:

communists in china, russia and vietnam arose because people were being oppressed and starved to death. the communist party came in and delivered modernization, food and education. In all 3 countries the communist party has made the country better.

if the poor are taken care of, there will not be a rebellion. if the poor are not taken care of it is their right to rebel if their voices are not heard at the ballot box (china 1949, vietnam 1975). think about why the poor are revolting in india.


yes..you r right..you know there r some state in india,, which ignored the development in tribal area completely..its the vacuum of administration, non-development created Maoist..look at the some states like gujarat, punjab where nobody knows even name of Maoist...
 
completely honest statement here:

communists in china, russia and vietnam arose because people were being oppressed and starved to death. the communist party came in and delivered modernization, food and education. In all 3 countries the communist party has made the country better.

if the poor are taken care of, there will not be a rebellion. if the poor are not taken care of it is their right to rebel if their voices are not heard at the ballot box (china 1949, vietnam 1975). think about why the poor are revolting in india.

Bro, let them remain in the condition they are right now. A communist india will be more dangerous to China's security.
 
Bro, let them remain in the condition they are right now. A communist india will be more dangerous to China's security.

Japan is extremely dangerous and has been for the past 500 years, but we're trying to be nice to them anyways because a japan that is neutral to the US/even against US is much better than a japan allied with US.

we need all the friends we can get in the struggle.

gambit: and how are those statistics compiled? if 50 million people died of starvation (10% of the population of China at the time), population growth in the 60's and 70's to reach 1 billion could not have occured within 20 years - famines also reduce average fertility and number of children surviving to age 10, and in fact the demographic effects of famine are evident before a single person dies.
 
Japan is extremely dangerous and has been for the past 500 years, but we're trying to be nice to them anyways because a japan that is neutral to the US/even against US is much better than a japan allied with US.

we need all the friends we can get in the struggle.

gambit: and how are those statistics compiled? if 50 million people died of starvation (10% of the population of China at the time), population growth in the 60's and 70's to reach 1 billion could not have occured within 20 years - famines also reduce average fertility and number of children surviving to age 10, and in fact the demographic effects of famine are evident before a single person dies.

Bro, I repeat, a communist india will pose more threats to China's security than a democratic india...

And Maoists are against China. They killed the EFR Jawans who are Gurkhas or Nepalese. See this guy Kishenji says he is a real patriot, that means he will not be a pro China at any cost.

Our position is diametrically opposite to China.

I Am The Real Desh Bhakt: Interview- Kishanji Indian Vanguard
 
well..its a issue of concern..sincerely admiring the tribal ppl concern..it will take abt 10 years to completely overthrow Maoist as we have just started pumping money and development in to rural areas from our trillion dollar economy..
Arm forces is not a answer here..

It quite obviously is!! These hit and run cowards were thinking no end of themselves before the Operation Green hunt was started. The only reason they want to talk now is because they are being hunted down. What is the soultion according to you? Economic aid? Infrastructure? Lol!! Sir its very easy to sit behid a computer and play Mr. Human Rights. I agree these people may have taken to arms because of injustice on economic and soical fronts. But their is not about a social upliftment anymore. Its about power.These guys have now stalled development of the entire areas they operate in. They destroy roads, bridges, attack government employees , try to derail trains!!! They are enemies of the state, and need to be dealt with accordingly. Its ironic that its because of our democratic structure that these guys are fighting against is helping certain people voice their opinions in favor of these "poor maoists" .
 
I was present during Silda attack: Kishanji
Sukumar Mahato, TNN, Mar 7, 2010, 12.53am IST

SOMEWHERE ON THE BENGAL-JHARKHAND BORDER: He speaks in staccato phrases, like three-bullet bursts from the AK rifle he carries. Cold-blooded, determined, ruthless. A man used to taking split-second decisions and being obeyed. A man not to be messed with.

That's the first impression you get of the most wanted man in Bengal, and perhaps, now, the entire country.

Koteswar Rao alias Kishanji, leader of the Maoist insurgency in eastern India and responsible for a few hundred deaths, is hard to get. Police of four states have been trying to nab him for years but he has always been a step ahead. Now that many of his closest aides have been arrested or killed, the guerrilla commander has withdrawn deeper into his shell relying only on a small clique of trusted, combat-hardened veterans of the jungle war.

After three days of talking in code and meetings with Maoist couriers, I was told that "Dada" had agreed to meet me. I was told to go to Jhargram on Friday morning, given a dress code and asked to wait at a designated point at 9.30am.

The time came. Was anyone keeping a watch on me? I looked around. Impossible to say. How do you identify a Maoist in a crowd? One hour later, still no sign of anyone. Then, a phone call, "The package has got delayed...won't come before evening. Return to the same place at 5pm," someone said.

Disappointment again. I tried my luck in the evening. I stood at the same place, in the same dress. Fifteen minutes later, someone brushed me on the elbow and asked my name. "Switch off your mobile. Follow me," said the six feet tall, well-built tribal. We got on a motorbike and he drove casually, not too fast, nor too slow, and stopped near the railway station. All my efforts at small talk were stalled by a cold stare. Silence it was then. These were not the guys to chit chat.

Raj (certainly not his real name) bought two tickets for Chakulia in Jharkhand and we boarded a local train. No one gave us a second glance. For all I knew, there were a couple of guerrillas keeping an eye on us as well. We got off at Chakulia at 7.10pm. A bike and another guerrilla were waiting. No pleasantries were exchanged. "Kemon achhen (how are you)?" I asked, jovially. "Dada bolben (Dada will say)," they replied, curtly.

I was asked to sit in between the two and we drove into the jungle for about 45 minutes, by moonlight without switching on the bike's headlight. I believe we went back to Bengal. The first men we saw were unarmed. These three youngsters were evidently the lookouts. "Dada dekechhen," was all my escorts said. There was no drama, like me being blindfolded or passwords exchanged. But there was a weird sensation down my spine. I was sweating, and it was not only due to the heat the forests emanate just after sundown.

A little later, we stopped and started walking up a hill. I saw three more layers of security, 500 metres apart, the sophistication of weapons increasing as we moved closer towards Kishanji's inner circle. On top of the hill, ranged in a broken circle were a dozen-odd stones where we sat down. There were about 10-12 guerrillas there. They looked at us, said nothing. One played with the sling of his Insas rifle. They all had small knapsacks, the kind you get for Rs 20-25 on local trains. A few had big bags. On one side, a gas stove was burning.

This was it — Kishanji's shelter tonight. A few minutes later, with moonlight filtering through the trees, I saw him approach. It was 8.10pm. His face was uncovered. An AK slung across one shoulder, a pistol at his waist. Four men armed with Insas rifles walked beside him. This was the inner circle. "Aashlen (you have come). Sorry for the trouble," he said. I had talked to him innumerable times over phone, heard the slightly effeminate voice, sometimes calm, sometimes raging in anger, and here was the man before me, shaking my hand. It was a surprisingly heavy grip for someone so lean and wiry.

He turned to his men and asked for something to eat. Bowls of muri and telebhaja were laid out and we started talking. "How is your son?" Kishanji asked, mentioning him by name. Just once, he had overheard my kid talking. It was clear he had done a thorough background check on me.

"You are the son of a CPM leader," he said. "Yes, but he is a very respected, clean man," I pointed out. He smiled.

Kishanji had about four days of stubble. His eyes looked cold. He wore six-pocket cargo trousers and a T-shirt, and could have blended in anywhere. Caressing his AK from time to time, he complained that his laptop had conked out due to a virus attack. "This is ridiculous. I will go to Kolkata and get it repaired. This time, I will buy a good anti-virus system," he said. I was stunned. Does he really go to Kolkata? Kishanji gave a strange smile.

"I was in Silda as well," he said. "I was there for a month, scouting the EFR camp. I was even present during the assault."

He gave the impression of a coiled whip, who could go from inert to instant aggression in a moment.

I was present during Silda attack: Kishanji - India - The Times of India
 
yes..you r right..you know there r some state in india,, which ignored the development in tribal area completely..its the vacuum of administration, non-development created Maoist..look at the some states like gujarat, punjab where nobody knows even name of Maoist...

Development can follow, only if these people are in check. I will give you an example.Could you think of developing Lalgarh area a couple of years back? NO!!
 
gambit: and how are those statistics compiled? if 50 million people died of starvation (10% of the population of China at the time), population growth in the 60's and 70's to reach 1 billion could not have occured within 20 years - famines also reduce average fertility and number of children surviving to age 10, and in fact the demographic effects of famine are evident before a single person dies.
Now it is clear you are desperate. Before you speak of statistics, you should look at general history...

For example...

Walter Duranty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In a New York Times article dated 23 August 1933, Duranty wrote, "Any report of a famine in Russia is today an exaggeration or malignant propaganda...

Malcolm Muggeridge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Increasingly disillusioned by communism, Muggeridge decided to investigate reports of the famine in Ukraine, travelling there and to the Caucasus without the permission of the Soviet authorities. Reports he sent back to the Manchester Guardian in the diplomatic bag, thus evading censorship, were not fully printed and were not published under Muggeridge's name.

Gareth Jones Soviet Union Newspaper Articles 1930-33
The following month in early March 1933, after an 'off-limits' walking tour of the Soviet Ukraine, Gareth, a young man of just 27 years, exposed to the world the terrible famine-genocide that had befallen the Soviet Union and gave reasons for this tragic state of events.

Starvation and famine are trademarks of the incompetency of communists at economics. The first thing a communist will do for his beliefs is to become a liar.
 
Read this personal story from Newsweek about Jharkhand:

Here's an excerpt:

"The state's writ runs only within city limits." When the Maoists call a general strike, railways cancel trains, truckers get off the streets and people in many parts of the state stay indoors. Ambastha and a group of fellow journalists were robbed on a highway once by a gang of armed Maoists. He and his friends fled the scene and begged for help at a local police station, he says. The cops refused to open their gate. Ambastha warned me not to leave town after dark.

Fear Reigns in India's Maoist-Run Countryside - Newsweek.com

I have already answered those questions. bottomline- operation green hunt is on, these hit and run cowards suddenly want to talk now. The regional, state government were passive in dealing with this issue. But now with the centre involved, these cowards suddenly want to hold talks and are proposing a ceasefire.
 
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