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Manufacturing 'terrorists' the Indian way

Indian police are inefficient indeed, they probably get to the right guys after all the public outcry but fail in convicting them due to lack of modern forensics / evidence collection.

Look at the coimbatore blasts mastermind madani, he was released most likely due to political interference botching up his case, and now he's already suspected of another terrorist activity. his 'humane' views are there for all to see and judge.

On the other hand those harrassed by the police incorrectly - and not just muslims but all, be it tribals or anyone else needs to be compensated by the state, they after all are equal citizens. but at the same time, atleast hang the proven ones like afzal guru.

All this is just lack of a clear policy at the national level, and all these NGOs are unfortunately not contributing positively.

Our police also do the same as your Indian law encforcing agencies are doing. The only difference is that our police is doing it out of their lack of effeciancy whereas Indian law enforcers are doing it out of hate for Muslims

The usual with mustard and hot sauce?

Sure the inefficiency of pakistani police in dealing with blasphemy cases is legendary, the only problem is the state has been so efficient in other areas that there are not enough non muslims left to show the legendary 'inefficiency' on!
 
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He is foreign Indian terrorists who is involved in blasts and killings people in another country.


Whereas Indian law enforcers are nabbing own Indians and harrassing them for any incident in India

no the reality is that we own our people and back him in desparate times,unlike pakistan which turn down its head and disown him
 
Dr Yoginder Sikand

Almost every other day, newspapers are agog with stories about 'dreaded Muslim terrorists' being nabbed across the country. At the same time, savage violence unleashed by Hindutva groups continues unabated without any effective steps being taken against them. In the ongoing 'war on terror', globally as well as within India, Muslims have come to be framed collectively as 'terrorists', while terrorism engaged in by people belonging to other communities is generally condoned or ignored altogether or, at least, is not described in the same terms.

In India today, Muslim youths are being indiscriminately picked up and tortured by the police, in many cases falsely accused of being terrorists. Many of them have been languishing in jails for years now and yet no one ever seems to care.

Take the case of Muhammad Parvez Abdul Qayyum Shaikh of Gujarat. According to his aunt, Qamar Jahan, on April 2, 2003, while he was on his way to fit a water appliance, he was arrested by CBI officer Tarun Barot and others. For three days his family knew nothing of his whereabouts. On the fourth day, she says, 'We saw the news and realised that Parvez had been arrested under allegations of having a Chinese-made pistol and some gun powder.

However, this powder is used for cleaning the Aqua Guard machines.'

Parvez, she says, was brutally beaten and tortured by the officers, with Officer Vanzara allegedly asking Parvez to refer to him as Khuda (God) and beating him ruthlessly. While in jail they forced him to sign on blank papers. He was reportedly taken by the CBI officers to Gandhinagar where he was further tortured for 21 days. He was then charged in the DCP-6 case, Tiffin bomb blast case and in the Haren Pandya murder case (the last mentioned of which, incidentally, Pandya's own father accuses Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi as having instigated). He was sentenced to 14 years in jail for the last-mentioned case, although his aunt maintains that he is innocent.

27 year-old Sardar, a Muslim youth, works as a plumber in Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu. He was arrested at the age of 17, some months after the February 1998 Chennai bomb blasts. The initial accusation against Sardar was that he had been involved in a street fight. He was apparently kept illegally imprisoned for a month, and only after that an FIR was lodged against him. This time he was accused of carrying two pipe bombs and rioting. The offence was non-bailable. He was remanded and kept in the Velour Jail for first 15 months, even though there were no witnesses against him. The special court set up for the bomb blasts refused to let him be tried as he was a minor.

Not guilty after 10 yrs

Eventually, nine and a half years later, in the final judgment the court apparently found him not guilty of any of the charges put on him and he was acquitted, but only after having spent almost a decade languishing in jail, where he was brutally tortured. Even after his acquittal the police have allegedly not stopped harassing and hounding him, and they still restrict his movements.

Noor ul-Hoda, the son of a desperately poor daily-wage labourer from Malegaon in Maharashtra, is yet another hapless Muslim man who has, so he insists, been falsely implicated as a terrorist by the police. In September 2006, he was picked up by the police from his home. On the same day, they brought him back, searched the house (without producing a search warrant), and, finding nothing, took him back into police custody. The next day the police charged Noor with possession of 20 books considered as 'illegal literature'.

While in police custody, he is said to have been forced, through torture and threats by his interrogators that they would kill his family, to sign a blank piece of paper, which was later used as evidence of a 'confession'. This was, it is claimed, used to charge him under the draconian MCOCA for allegedly being a member of the team that carried out the Malegaon bombings. This, he says, is completely false as he was at the local mosque on the day of the bomb blasts. The local special executive officer has given an affidavit validating this. Noor claims that Police Inspector Sachin Kadum had threatened him thus: 'Although I am aware of the fact that you are not involved in the bomb blast, we will still capture you and we will see if you can get out of this situation.'

In October 2006 Noor was taken to Bangalore for brain mapping and narco-tests. These proved negative, but the experience was harrowing. During the narco-test he was given powerful electric shocks and was badly beaten. His ribs were also battered. The doctor, Malti, asked him to say what the police wanted him to say or else he would be more deeply implicated in the bomb blast case. 'When I did not repeat the words electric shocks were given to my ear', he says. While he was in the custody of the Nasik police, they tortured him severely at the ATS office, saying that he should state what the police wanted him to-in other words, to give a false 'confession'.

'In the month of Ramzan while I was fasting I was beaten so much that I fainted', he says. 'Inspector Sachin Kadum and Inspector Khan Gekar used to abuse me and say that if you do not confess we will bring all your sisters here. We will make them naked and photographs will be taken and they will also be beaten,' he adds. They also threatened to implicate Noor's brother in the case. Finally, they were able to force him to make a false 'confession' by taking his signature on a blank piece of paper, but he later retracted this 'confession'.

State terrorism

Muhammad Hanif Adul Razzak Shaikh from Gujarat is yet another victim of state terrorism. On April 28, 2003, around two dozen men rushed into Hanif's house, but since Hanif was said to have been away attending a friend's funeral in Himmatnagar, they dragged his brother, Yasin, to the police station where he was beaten up. They picked him up without an arrest warrant and detained him for 12 days until May 3, when Hanif came back and presented himself at the Crime Branch. He was immediately put into detention and the CBI searched his factory but recovered nothing.

Mohammad Hanif was in the business of making bags. The police claimed that the bomb which was used in the Tiffin bomb blast and in another such blast had been made in his factory. But when Hanif refused to accept these allegations, the police tortured him severely and even threatened to arrest his brother Yasin if he did not comply with their orders. After this, they allegedly forced a false 'confession' out of him to implicate him in the blasts. His interrogators tortured him mercilessly and he was then presented in court on May 10, 2003. There, Hanif refused to accept the charges against him, which allegedly prompted the magistrate to say that the police should take Hanif in for some more khatirdari ('hospitality'), by which was meant even greater torture.

During this remand, Hanif was said to have been subjected to third degree torture, brutally beaten and forced to sign numerous false statements. The forced 'confession' was apparently used as evidence to prolong his remand stay. He retracted his statement in the court but after appearing in court for the second time the judge ordered that he should be treated to some more 'hospitality'. After this, he is said to have been compelled to sign another 'confession', on the basis of which he was sentenced to 10 years in jail. During the five years he has spent in jail so far Hanif's wife as well as his mother died. A father of four, one of his daughters has tuberculosis. His small bag-making unit has been closed ever since he was put into jail and his family now lives in abject penury.

Concocted charges

Maulana Mohammad Naseerudin of Hyderabad was arrested in August 2004 immediately after addressing a meeting of fellow Muslims at a local mosque. The Anti-Terrorism Squad accused him of conspiring to blow up a Hindu temple in Hyderabad, a charge that he denied. The next month he was released on bail, but on the condition that he would report to the CID office on a weekly basis.

On September 31, 2004, when the Maulana reached the CID office he found the Gujarat police waiting for him. They took him into custody, accusing him of incitement violence in Gujarat in his speeches in the mosque. In actual fact, so it is said, he had preached for relief and aid for Muslims in Gujarat who had been brutalised by the state, the police and Hindutva forces. The police failed to give any evidence at the time of his detention and subsequent trial, simply claiming that he was inciting communal hatred during his sermons.

The news of the Maulana's arrest spread quickly and he was put into a bus and given a drug to incapacitate him. The protestors asked the police for the arrest warrant. 23 year-old Mujahid Saleem Azmi, a friend of the family, started questioning the procedures during the arrest, and, after some prompting by the expanding crowd, the police released the Maulana. A heated exchange between Police Officer Narendra and Mujahid began. The officer shamelessly shouted at Mujahid, 'Have you people forgotten Gujarat? I will finish you all off.' Mujahid replied that he was not scared of his threats and that the officer should conduct himself on the basis of the law. The police officer then said that if he was looking for a warrant he would show him a warrant and took out his gun and fired point blank at Mujahid. The rest of the police officers started firing in the air. They pushed the Maulana back into the van and drove off. The ATS provided safe passage for the police to flee Hyderabad. Meanwhile, Mujahid, 23, was pronounced dead at the hospital.

Thousands of people collected outside the hospital and they asked for a case to be filed against the police. Several different Hindutva organisations came together to try and disrupt the funeral procession the following day. The police used their special division-the Greyhound Task Force - normally used to combat Naxalism to beat and tear gas the processionists. The Greyhound Task Force forced their way into Mujahid's house and attacked the family with sticks.

Forced confession

Meanwhile, the Maulana was transferred to a prison in Ahmedabad, where, it is said, he was forced to make a 'confession'. He appealed against it, but the special POTA court denied the appeal and accepted the 'confession' of Maulana produced by the Gujarat police. His first bail application took four long months to be heard from the day of his judicial custody. A judgment on the bail application took another year. The application was rejected on the grounds that he was 'anti-American and pro Osama bin Laden'. Another year passed and the high court upheld the POTA court's order. Six months later, the Supreme Court asked for a swift trial, but rejected bail.

Two years have passed since the Supreme Court's order and yet nothing has happened. The Maulana continues to languish in jail and is presently seriously ill. He has only one kidney, a thyroid problem, and early signs of arthritis, none of which has been taken into consideration during his time in prison. His illnesses have worsened. He cannot walk or handle food that he has to chew, but yet, despite several appeals, the authorities continue to refuse to send him to hospital. In the meantime, the police have also arrested two of his sons for allegedly conspiring to take revenge for his arrest.

Scores of cases of innocent Muslims being deliberately targeted by agencies of the State, in addition to Hindutva forces, abound across the country, and the situation seems to be getting worse with every passing day. This is not to say that none of the several blasts that have occurred in India in the last several years could have been the handiwork of Muslims. Sympathisers of some fringe radical Islamist outfits or Muslims seeking to take revenge for the atrocities and large-scale slaughter of their co-religionists, as in Gujarat, might well have planned some of these, and Muslim leaders themselves have rightly called for stern punishment for their perpetrators.

However, the mounting indiscriminate arrests, torture and detention of vast numbers of innocent Muslim youth across the country in the name of countering terrorism not only makes a complete mockery of our claims to secularism and democracy but is a perfect recipe for making Muslim terrorism a self-fulfilling prophecy. And, to make matters worse, at the same time as the hounding of innocent Muslims continues, Hindu mobs are allowed to operate free of any effective restraint, lionised as ardent 'nationalists' as they continue to wreak murder, mayhem and naked terror on Muslims, and now, as in Orissa and Karnataka, Christians. That, surely, is no way to combat terrorism. Far from it, it can only further exacerbate the problem.

Note: The details of the above-mentioned cases have been procured from the testimonies submitted to the jury of the People's Tribunal on the Atrocities Committed Against Minorities in the Name of Fighting Terrorism organised by Anhad and the Human Rights Law Network in Hyderabad, August 22-24, 2008.

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What this cheap, BS and troll thread is to do with India defense Section??????????

Why are you posting "24 September 2008" a 2 year old troll???


Mods plz look into it.
 
What Pakistan's police is doing is none of our business. There have been some such cases and police do need to be careful, but it's wrong to say police doing this because of their hatred to a particular community as there are people from all communities in police force. Terrorists must be punished regardless of their religion.
 

What this cheap, BS and troll thread is to do with India defense Section??????????

Why are you posting "24 September 2008" a 2 year old troll???


Mods plz look into it.

No dude there is nothing wrong in this thread cause its anti-Indian

Rules are only for Anti -Pakistani, BD, China Threads

You can saw the difference ... there is nothing in this thread related to Indian Defence or without any proof but still its running
 

What this cheap, BS and troll thread is to do with India defense Section??????????

Why are you posting "24 September 2008" a 2 year old troll???


Mods plz look into it.

The article appeared in today's HOLIDAY weekly. Indians have to reminded constantly of their disgraceful tactics and policies.
 
கார்த்திக்;953502 said:
No sister...for that only his community is to be blamed.
They live in a ghetto called "Kottaimedu" in a part of the city and they fly all kinds of the green flags there.
And before the bomb blasts there were numerous processions condeming Advani and and one group went as far as threatening him.
So wen after a few days serial bomb blasts took place in the city it is only logical for the police to look for Muslim youths with a a history in the local police station or relatives of the other accused.
So nothing purposeful vendetta here. as it happens all over the world.

And for ur kind information the govt in Tamil Nadu has set up mechanic shops for all those acquitted nad givebn them various vocational trainings free of cost for all those acquitted.

U may ask how im telling this...but i know as Im hailing from that city - Coimbatore.

:cheers:

Hi கார்த்திக், postu-kku romba nanri, negamaave avanagalukku ellam oru mechanic shop vechi kuduthu irukkagangala ? andha maadhiri ethana pera thappa kaidhu panninaanga... ? therija sollungalen, aana adha namma moliyila ye sollunga...
 
no the reality is that we own our people and back him in desparate times,unlike pakistan which turn down its head and disown him

Can you be more specific about disowning their own citizens ?

I think you mean the disowned NON STATE ACTORS, whom they call freedom fighters...

Just in words they are freedom fighters for them, but when the world asks them they will be disowned by Pakistani Government itself....

Did you mean this ?
 
You are linking up an Indian terrorists with your own people??

There is a big difference between picking up a foreigner and harrassing your own people.


Our police also do the same as your Indian law encforcing agencies are doing. The only difference is that our police is doing it out of their lack of effeciancy whereas Indian law enforcers are doing it out of hate for Muslims

Ma'am , I know I wont be able to convince you but still....

I am from UP, so I know how much command muslim community have over local police. In every town, the most popular, the most notorious, the most dreaded and the most feared, all hail from muslim community. No one can dare touch a muslim without substantial proof and reasoning. Minorities commission in India is actually a pro muslim commission and is very strong. ther police professional who will dare to arrest a muslim will risk his entire career if the caught muslim is held "not guilty". so, please believe, there are only a few isolated incidents where muslims are tortured, and that too not because they are muslims, but because of "some" tip offs from informers who themselves are majorly muslims.

I know youy will not believe, no one from pakistn will, but it is truth. BTW, just for your knowledge, majority of terrorists of Indian origin are from UP, Azamgarh and Saharanpur are two major hubs of home grown terrorists. Eg, dawood ibrahim m@d@rc##d (as he is known in India)
 
The article appeared in today's HOLIDAY weekly. Indians have to reminded constantly of their disgraceful tactics and policies.

Yeah some jamati website full of pro BNP 'articles'! Sure when jamatis have to remind us of our 'disgraceful' practices, we KNOW we are on the right path!

Thanks mate, we like the recognition :tup::tup::tup:
 
It is a common practice in India to pick up suspects from minority community and brand them terrorist..it serves the whole purpose of keeping minorities subdued through fear. I know many Indian who keep their investments and saving outside India..live in middle east or Malaysia and keep their visits to "motherland" very low profile.
 
Kill minorities in riots and blame muslims for the terror acts perpetrated by hindus supress sentiments of people in kashmir northeast and of tribals through rapes plunder murder by forces and then wonder why people revolt in india.
 
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