The problem arose due to rigging of elections in J&K, why do these words remind me of someone else on this forum? Ok. Funny we have been blaming Indian state all these years by iterating same line that don't blame Pakistan, although usually people in opposition iterate this. Valley was peaceful before 1989. What changed in 1989 you know exactly. Bringing this up seems you feel others maybe ignorant about history, just for your information, even people born in 90s like me know enough if not in minute details, the history of state, besides most of the years i used to believed its Indian state esonsible for all this mess.
They will, in all probability, remind you of
@Joe Shearer, whose knowledge of the matter is rarely equalled.
The contention is based on one very fundamental human nature - that of blaming all ills on some external factor beyond control. Thus, the invention of God. (All due respects to the believers, no offence intended)
Few points:
1. The Maharaja of Jammu & Kashmir acceded to India vide Para 3 (a) of Indian Independence Act of 1947. The Act, the legal power that recognised India, Pakistan & also Jammu & Kashmir as new independent states on morning of 15 Aug 1947, was also the very act under which Jammu and Kashmir acceded to India. When the accession is under the legal provisions by the legal sovereign while taking into account the views of the principal opposition leader, namely Sheikh Abdullah, what was the pressing reason for India to undertake to hold a plebiscite to ascertain the wishes of the people?
2. Were GoI and Nehru unsure about the accession of J&K?
3. If they were, why did they intervene? And if not why ask for a plebiscite?
4. Why did they stop military operations before vacation of all territories of the Princely State, if it was legally an Indian state?
5. Why did they approach UN without clearing the said territories and file a complaint of aggression against Pakistan?
6. Why did they allow UN to move from addressing the issue of external aggression of one UN member country on another to discussion over Kashmir dispute and allowing for Pakistan as a party of a 'dispute'? If it was NOT a dispute, why did GoI take part in all UN discussions wherein the word dispute has been used and wherein Pakistan has been made party to the affair?
These are just few initial questions for you to ponder over and realise why I say it is a whole series of political blunders by Indians themselves.
As for Pakistanis, the hindi saying holds; '..doosrey ki aag par apni roti sake na'
When we could not get our own act together, why should we blame them, an enemy nation state, for taking advantages of our own failings as a nation state?
I will give you a link. Please go through it. We can discuss after you read it. It sums up the political scenario in Kashmir after accession. You comments will be awaited.
http://web.stanford.edu/class/e297a/Kashmir Conflict - A Study of What Led to the Insurgency in Kashmir Valley.pdf
As for the red underlined portion, my knowledge of history of Kashmir is rudimentary, but I have roamed the state a bit and my limited experience there is all I have to base my statements on. I do not, nor indeed can, claim to have all the facts and history with me accurately. However, I would like to assume a working knowledge sufficient enough to pass muster?
The real reason for radicalization of valley is not insurgency, no one likes a terrorist, but the propaganda which later followed through infiltrators. Its far easy to exploit religious sentiments.
The real reason was induction of radicalised cadres. Period. The thousands of trained cadres returning from Afghanistan (both Kashmiris and foreigners) who were directed to Kashmir were the reason for the same. Make no mistake about it. That got a boost with our own persistent political failings.
If you want to counter propaganda you must suppress voices which incite hatred or violence there is no other choice. Today there is social media, you don't need infiltrators to radicalize youth.
Agreed. That is why our effort here to prevent misconceptions from spreading.
I know because at one point i myself became islamophobic by watching videos online about Quran, Muhammad, etc, that much islamophobic that i used to boot people out of games online anyone with Muslim names
. I knew i was immature and wrong but it didnt lasted more than few days. So i understand how much social media can radicalize, and if someone grows up in a conservative place (which Kashmir has become) or a situation like valley is in, its hard to come out of that radicalization. And those who exploit these radicals must be suppressed.
So rather than state or security forces' action, its due to inaction of Indian state which has led to this situation. Afterall why don't KPs blame Indian state for all this?
That is what we have been saying ... who denies that?
Again what was the point of engaging me?
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