Fasih Khan
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Not really. Indeed God knows the truth. But interpretation is within a set limit. Interpretation does not mean that you make a mole out of a hill. There are set limits and bounds to interpretation and the Quran explicitly instructs us to not transgress (in this case, extrapolate the meanings of verses)
It is their personal choice because it has become a habit of them since childhood. If you are forced to wear burka since teenage, it will automatically become your "choice" (habitual) when you grow up to be a woman?
And yes, the survey was for teenagers. So, it is not a presumptuous statement.
wassup Fasih
Nice to see you smile.
Now try and behave or I'll be back ....
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Well thats the thing about 'religion' init...? People can and they do make a mole out of a hill (nice proverb !) because those 'limits' and 'bounds' and 'what is transgression and what isn't' are very relative and judgemental things ! Hence why I, previously, talked about 'Ijtihad' by the Parliament so that all interpretations are brought to the table and questions like these are finally put to the rest by letting the women from all walks of life decide on everything from abortion, to domestic abuse to 'the burqa'!
One might argue that if a child is wearing anything from childhood...whether its a burqa, a shirt, something, traditionally thought of as, promiscuous...anything, then it does become habitual and one might use the same logic to chastise them as one would in the case of a 'face-veil' ! And yes, my friend, it is indeed presumptuous, in my humble opinion, to think that 'all or even the majority of women are forced to wear the Burqa'....those who are - Must be bailed out by the Government - but one mustn't look at every Burqa-clad lady through the same prism of 'being-oppressed' ! Like I said...I've met dozens who aren't and I know a few that are...!
Wanna split a beer?
Nahhh You have the 'Indian drink' You know what I mean
Well, there are many extremist scholars who preach it is mandatory to wear burka or headcover or else you will go to hell. I do not see how can this not be a transgression? I believe any sensible person would view this as a transgression keeping in mind the Quranic verses concerned. Yes, except those extremist scholars. But we cannot always "take everything" right? We have to fixate on something. And if we fixate on the extremist interpretation it is not only contradictory to Quran, but also injecting our own whims and wishes. And God clearly says the punishment for that in a previous verse which I quoted.
And when these extremists gain majority or rise to the ruling class, you have sharia police like that in Saudi arabia. I do not see how can that not be a transgression? I believe the majority and any sensible person would term that as a severe transgression on part of the state.
I do not see how a shirt can be thought of as promiscuous. But the norm of south asian society may be different and to each society and culture, to its own.
As I said, there are many surveys which indicate my 'presumption'. Besides I have some Saudi friends who read in school. They tell me that though the outer-attire is very (supposedly) "islamic" there, people are not islamic by heart. Students feel free to ditch religious classes and in their opinion, would never wear the veil if not forced by regulations.
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The girls look classy and appear as they have values.
The ugly chick in the middle with the tacky jacket looks trashy.
Annoying in sense of what? because you're not able to see them? or do they block your view? I dont understand what is the problem with someone wearing a bura or hijab? You go there to study in whatever dress what makes you comfortable.Wearing burqa in class doesnt really make any sense, we had some of those types of girls in our class who would do burqa and ninja hijab in class and tell you honestly it is extremely annoying. People should be dressed modestly and neatly in a class and mix in with the crowd.
If these students insists on wearing burqa they should find a jamaati run college and school not institutes run by Hindu and Christian trusts.
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My personal opinion (and I'm a Muslim) is that Burka and Headcover should be banned in all Islamic and Non Islamic countries except in Arabian peninsula as it is a part of Arab culture. This is by encouraging people to actually read what is written in the Quran rather than following extremist religious scholars blindly.