Malicious campaign against Pakistan Army

[Fracker]

You dont have to post the links, your biggest trading partner is United states and western countries. All they have to do is stop buying from you and your economy will fall a apart.

They will do it once they will see others plan failing.. Trust me.. in past 5 years of the time, EU did posted ban on Pakistani textiles number of times and removed it.

On the top, yes Pakistan do export a lot to these western countries, but also buy a lot of things.. so if they stop it will effect their industry as well.. So they always increase compliance clause rather then simply banning everything.

Fracker - LOL, How you'd managed to sign up on forums with such a tiny brain?Typical Pakistani obsession with Israel. They don't care. OTOH, It is clear that Nawaz is a proxy/extension of Saudi/US Rule in Pakistan.Now, I am not going to say Nawaz is some sort of satan agent..Its just a natural alliance..you on the other hand come up with so wild conspiracy theories that it makes one cringe how you people manage to get degrees.Just goes to show that something is seriously wrong with our Education System that people like you are able to graduate.

Reported for personal attack, I don't see anything other then criticism on my personality so don't need to reply you..

 

[Cheetah786]

They will do it once they will see others plan failing.. Trust me.. in past 5 years of the time, EU did posted ban on Pakistani textiles number of times and removed it.

On the top, yes Pakistan do export a lot to these western countries, but also buy a lot of things.. so if they stop it will effect their industry as well.. So they always increase compliance clause rather then simply banning everything.

SO the only reason they are buying from us and keeping us a float is because they are waiting to see. if the plan they implemented to destroy our economy works or not.

General Motors is a failed corporation and its revenue after declaring bankruptcy is bigger then Pakistani GDP. point is their corporations dont depend on you period. on the other hand our economy is heavily dependent on them buying from us.

 

[Fracker]

SO the only reason they are buying from us and keeping us a float is because they are waiting to see. if the plan they implemented to destroy our economy works or not.

General Motors is a failed corporation and its revenue after declaring bankruptcy is bigger then Pakistani GDP. point is their corporations dont depend on you period. on the other hand our economy is heavily dependent on them buying from us.

I guess you missed the point, I said they usually do it again n again.. just April Walt Disney put bann on Pakistani product, last 5 year so many occasion they done so. But complete ban means direct conflict, and also there own company losses.. Not every company is GMC.

 

[Sniper_Lycan]

Dirty politics and so called democracy is the real reason of this malicious campaigns against Army, army should help civilians in making the fair election and accountability system

 

[Fracker]

Dirty politics and so called democracy is the real reason of this malicious campaigns against Army, army should help civilians in making the fair election and accountability system

Sorry mate, This politics is dirty since Army keep trying to bring "Fair" things in the system. It's not a responsibility of army to do so.. Army has to make up their mind, whether they trust civilian or not.. Not both.. Why you need to create a new idol to break older version?

Lastly it's not Army responsibility...

 

[asif farooqi]

I am not gonna say Nawaz Sharif is a good leader. but whatever PAT and PTI people are doing in Islamabad is also not right. We are civilized people and this is not the right way to protest by taking over public properties and destroying them

 

[Sniper_Lycan]

Sorry mate, This politics is dirty since Army keep trying to bring "Fair" things in the system. It's not a responsibility of army to do so.. Army has to make up their mind, whether they trust civilian or not.. Not both.. Why you need to create a new idol to break older version?

Lastly it's not Army responsibility...

Agreed that Army is not responsible, but in the mean time Army is not again responsible in destroying the system.

We dont trust our politician and they are not showing their interest in creating the fair system, so who will do this ? If politicians are not doing their job then someone has to do.

 

[Jf Thunder]

Tell me one country with PM which has murder and corruption charges tell me country where state is allowed to kill 14 people like in Model Town

what murder case? corruption yes, but this is no way to do this, the model town killing were a retaliation, as the police was allegedly fired upon, so lets wait and see as the investigations progress, it has already shown that 3 of them were shot from above and behind their heads

There is a thing called water cannon and loudspeakers as army used during PTV incident, they are used against rioters first you just don't start live bullets and thousands of shells.

even in the most civilized countries, if you cross a certain line, live bullets will be used, and the Army did wrong, they should have arrested those attacking the PTV building as the had attacked a state building

& In those countries no model town, ever happened nor SC was ever attacked!

model town was retaliatory, but i dont know much about the SC incident, if they did that, then it is wrong

 

[Fracker]

Agreed that Army is not responsible, but in the mean time Army is not again responsible in destroying the system.

We dont trust our politician and they are not showing their interest in creating the fair system, so who will do this ? If politicians are not doing their job then someone has to do.

You didn't read my reply properly, it clearly gives the reply to you even before you ask.

Most politicians (or corrupt politicians) has been made by Army.. Now do you want them to create another one?

Edit: ok missed out how System will be fixed.

If you believe in Science, then evolution is the answer. "System develop immunity from defeats, and cure itself with the time",

If you believe in Religion, then "God sent an Avatar to protect you from bad happening.."

I believe on both, "Till I don't find the person with Avatar qualities, I will continue supporting the system"

 

[SBD-3]

This is an age of social media because though print media can be controlled to great extent but social media cannot be. And this is what is being said on social media

https://twitter.com/x/status/507076377804173312

https://twitter.com/x/status/507165159765602304

https://twitter.com/x/status/507142547320213505

Somebody had a valid point yesterday. For 14 days all the so called "Defence Analysts" were eagerly trying to associate Army and ISI as a major stakeholder in this crisis. But ISPR never refuted them. This evolved an opinion among public that army is effectively aiding the marches. However, the hastened rebuttal of JH's claims from ISPR raised every eyebrow so as to "daal main kuch kala hay". And then the ISPR release after CCs meeting also reaffirmed suspicions about army's involvement.One of the key responsibility of ISPR is to maintain the image of Army. And clearly the ISPR has failed in doing so, result is that army finds itself being pointed at. Will some heads roll in ISPR over its failure? If not, then the damage to Army's image will be permanent and most of Kayani's efforts in promoting an apolitical culture would go in vain.

 

[SrNair]

That is not fair .Whatever it is nation's leaders and their citizens should respect their Army men's who spill their blood for their own nation.

 

[Meengla]

That is not fair .Whatever it is nation's leaders and their citizens should respect their Army men's who spill their blood for their own nation.

No, it can't be 'whatever'. Army in Pakistan is subservient to the federal govt. While I do blame NS for unnecessarily needling the Army over Musharraf there are clear signs that Army has some tacit approval of the marchers' actions: Even when the thugs stormed the sensitive buildings and were shelled upon the Army--whose had committed to protect these installations--came up with no use of 'force'. And THAT is the clearest indication yet that at least some in the Army are/were encouraging the marchers.

NS needs to learn to work with the military AND the military needs to stop using thugs to bring down the whole system.

 

[SrNair]

No, it can't be 'whatever'. Army in Pakistan is subservient to the federal govt. While I do blame NS for unnecessarily needling the Army over Musharraf there are clear signs that Army has some tacit approval of the marchers' actions: Even when the thugs stormed the sensitive buildings and were shelled upon the Army--whose had committed to protect these installations--came up with no use of 'force'. And THAT is the clearest indication yet that at least some in the Army are/were encouraging the marchers.

NS needs to learn to work with the military AND the military needs to stop using thugs to bring down the whole system.

Well I dont know more about that .But it is up to you and your nation.This is an internal matter of Pakistan .
I am just mentioning about the belief of a normal nation state.

 

[Waffen SS]

Military itself is a corrupt institution. They don't care about politicians indulging in corruption. Military has problems with Nawaz due to Musharaf, MFN to India, WoT policy and other foreign policy and strategic issues.

No one can be more corrupt than Zardari but the military was never perturbed over these scandals. They were up in arms over Kerry-Lugar Bill and Hussain Haqqani issue (Memo Gate).

They want to assert control over some issues. Corruption has never been a problem for them.

 

[pakdefender]

This is an age of social media because though print media can be controlled to great extent but social media cannot be. And this is what is being said on social media

https://twitter.com/x/status/507076377804173312

https://twitter.com/x/status/507165159765602304

https://twitter.com/x/status/507142547320213505

Somebody had a valid point yesterday. For 14 days all the so called "Defence Analysts" were eagerly trying to associate Army and ISI as a major stakeholder in this crisis. But ISPR never refuted them. This evolved an opinion among public that army is effectively aiding the marches. However, the hastened rebuttal of JH's claims from ISPR raised every eyebrow so as to "daal main kuch kala hay". And then the ISPR release after CCs meeting also reaffirmed suspicions about army's involvement.One of the key responsibility of ISPR is to maintain the image of Army. And clearly the ISPR has failed in doing so, result is that army finds itself being pointed at. Will some heads roll in ISPR over its failure? If not, then the damage to Army's image will be permanent and most of Kayani's efforts in promoting an apolitical culture would go in vain.

Naliaq Leage did bharti of 20,000 of its workers/supporters in Punjab police , these PML-N workers were seen shaking hands with Mr Bean Ch Nisar when he came out the day these PML-N workers attacked the protesters , Islamabad Police people did not act in the same way , so don't try to act innocent , many among the police are PML-N workers whom the Naliaq League have given employment in the police force , they are no different than gullu butt

Nawaz Sharif is not a legitimate Prime Minister , he will have to bite the bullet sooner or later and either will go willingly or the will of the people will force him to leave.