"Makkah and Madinah News and Updates"

[Gazi]

you know what i hate see going ? the 2 floor temporary tawaf.
honestly i experienced it my self its very very useful. 1st of jan this year i was staying in makkah with a friend and made umrah. i had some back and leg pain so i was walking with a cane. i could barely walk. i only did tawaf walking then used a wheel chair in safa and marwa.
those 2 floors made it possible for me. without them i dont think i could have done tawaf. cuz the ground floor was packed and ppl were over each other. there were a lot of ppl like me either had enjories or were too old or their health and body isnt strong enough for them to make tawaf on the ground floor. even a healthy young women would be hard or nearly impossible for her to do tawaf if she had a small body.
those 2 floors are life saving. ppl worry about the looks of the haram and forget about the safety and comfort of ppl.
they should really think about leaving them.. in few hours i saw enough to make me convinced it would be a mistake to remove them. today its easier for muslims from around the world to come and make umrah. its not like the past. in shaa Allah after the project is completed the haram will be full 24/7. its already full now. or most of the time
its not just practical and safe it saves lives and make it possible for many ppl to do tawaf safely. without those 2 floors in the future i think its going to be very very hard or impossible for some ppl to make tawaf. remember if you make tawaf inside the building or on the roof, depending how far you are from the kaaba, one round is equivalent to 7 rounds of tawaf near the kaaba. i also tried this.
one of the main reasons they rebuilt the building is to make it easier to make tawaf inside the building and have less pillars on your way.
also another good reason to leave them. when head of states, diplomats and VVIPs come do umrah they can use those floors instead of the ground floor. so their security wouldn't bother ppl. this is very important too. i experienced it when i went to hajj few years ago with high officials. and we had a lot of security. one smart thing they did in the new jamarat. they made an underground jamarat so high officials can go through jamarat without bothering the ppl. it really made a HUGE difference.
of course during that time the temporary tawaf wasnt there. but i saw on youtube high officials using those temporary mataf and its very clear how useful it was.

so give me your thoughts guys. should it stay or should it go ? and remember looks come last. safety and comfort of thousands of ppl come first. makkah is not the vatican lol

please tag others @Zarvan @Banu Hashim @Altamimi @Bubblegum Crisis @Mosamania @Gazi @Arabian Legend
@Yzd Khalifa @Sinan @Ahmed Jo @Gasoline @l_5LT3BRE_l @OTTOMAN @asad71 @BLACKEAGLE @AXO4D
@analyist

Saudia Arabia is doing good job in accommodating Hajis in best way Possible and for that they need to be commended for. I think its time that countries like Pakistan, Indonesia, Egypt should also comeout to help in this process because in the end of the day most of the Hajis actually came from these countries. The VVIP movement is always a problem in Muslim World as a whole but Makkah and Madina should not be the place where they should need security because in Makkah and Madina everyone is Equal no matter how if he is ruler of World Super power and it is Allah which is great and this whole security thing shows their importance which is against the way Islam has thought us but due to situation of Muslim World it has becoming norm for them. I hope in the future when things get settle down in Muslim World these VVIP routes would be utilize by average people during their Hajj. Saudis are doing very good job and this should lead an example for all Muslim World to follow that this is how a Leader should make an efforts to Accommodate people.

 

[Rakan.SA]

Saudia Arabia is doing good job in accommodating Hajis in best way Possible and for that they need to be commended for. I think its time that countries like Pakistan, Indonesia, Egypt should also comeout to help in this process because in the end of the day most of the Hajis actually came from these countries. The VVIP movement is always a problem in Muslim World as a whole but Makkah and Madina should not be the place where they should need security because in Makkah and Madina everyone is Equal no matter how if he is ruler of World Super power and it is Allah which is great and this whole security thing shows their importance which is against the way Islam has thought us but due to situation of Muslim World it has becoming norm for them. I hope in the future when things get settle down in Muslim World these VVIP routes would be utilize by average people during their Hajj. Saudis are doing very good job and this should lead an example for all Muslim World to follow that this is how a Leader should make an efforts to Accommodate people.

brother what are you talking about ?! lol
if there is no security for VIPs makkah and madinah will turn into an assassination ground for world leaders!! regardless of thos leaders are good or bad. we dont allow such thing to happen.
VIP security is no longer a problem in jamarat cuz its underground. there is more than enough floors for ppl.
safa and marwa is also no problem. many floors.
the only problem is tawaf. and this problem is not only for VIP but everyone as i mentioned.
so thats why im saying they shouldn't remove the temporary tawaf

 

[Gazi]

if there is no security for VIPs makkah and madinah will turn into an assassination ground for world leaders!! regardless of thos leaders are good or bad. we dont allow such thing to happen.
VIP security is no longer a problem in jamarat cuz its underground. there is more than enough floors for ppl.
safa and marwa is also no problem. many floors.
the only problem is tawaf. and this problem is not only for VIP but everyone as i mentioned.
so thats why im saying they shouldn't remove the temporary tawaf

I know that but dont you think this whole VVIP things is against the spirit of Islam???It is tolerable no doubt because Muslim World is going through huge mess and even Muslim Leaders are unsure of how much secure they are. I hope when things started settle down then this new Arrangement for VVIP Protocol would be Utilize by common Pilgrims as well but until then its OK for it being use by VVIP.
BTW what is the prospect of Train System that Saudis were introducing between Makkah and Madina???

 

[Gasoline]

you know what i hate see going ? the 2 floor temporary tawaf.
honestly i experienced it my self its very very useful. 1st of jan this year i was staying in makkah with a friend and made umrah. i had some back and leg pain so i was walking with a cane. i could barely walk. i only did tawaf walking then used a wheel chair in safa and marwa.
those 2 floors made it possible for me. without them i dont think i could have done tawaf. cuz the ground floor was packed and ppl were over each other. there were a lot of ppl like me either had enjories or were too old or their health and body isnt strong enough for them to make tawaf on the ground floor. even a healthy young women would be hard or nearly impossible for her to do tawaf if she had a small body.
those 2 floors are life saving. ppl worry about the looks of the haram and forget about the safety and comfort of ppl.
they should really think about leaving them.. in few hours i saw enough to make me convinced it would be a mistake to remove them. today its easier for muslims from around the world to come and make umrah. its not like the past. in shaa Allah after the project is completed the haram will be full 24/7. its already full now. or most of the time
its not just practical and safe it saves lives and make it possible for many ppl to do tawaf safely. without those 2 floors in the future i think its going to be very very hard or impossible for some ppl to make tawaf. remember if you make tawaf inside the building or on the roof, depending how far you are from the kaaba, one round is equivalent to 7 rounds of tawaf near the kaaba. i also tried this.
one of the main reasons they rebuilt the building is to make it easier to make tawaf inside the building and have less pillars on your way.
also another good reason to leave them. when head of states, diplomats and VVIPs come do umrah they can use those floors instead of the ground floor. so their security wouldn't bother ppl. this is very important too. i experienced it when i went to hajj few years ago with high officials. and we had a lot of security. one smart thing they did in the new jamarat. they made an underground jamarat so high officials can go through jamarat without bothering the ppl. it really made a HUGE difference.
of course during that time the temporary tawaf wasnt there. but i saw on youtube high officials using those temporary mataf and its very clear how useful it was.

so give me your thoughts guys. should it stay or should it go ? and remember looks come last. safety and comfort of thousands of ppl come first. makkah is not the vatican lol

please tag others @Zarvan @Banu Hashim @Altamimi @Bubblegum Crisis @Mosamania @Gazi @Arabian Legend
@Yzd Khalifa @Sinan @Ahmed Jo @Gasoline @l_5LT3BRE_l @OTTOMAN @asad71 @BLACKEAGLE @AXO4D
@analyist

I would say yes, it should stay forever with extended capacity,too. If I had the authority I'll make it up to 4 floors not just 2 with increased radius though ! because I know it's very helpful for many people .Surely ,it will effect badly on the general look of the holey place,but that doesn't matter if it's serves Al-rahman's guests as what prophet Mohammad (pbuh) said " ‏بَشِّرُوا وَلَا تُنَفِّرُوا وَيَسِّرُوا وَلَا تُعَسِّرُوا " .Moreover,the most important thing which I recommend to be in its high stages is " Safety Standards" ...otherwise the cons will overshadowed the pros ... Simple example,as many times when I do Umrah I observe some people (on the temporary floors) pray in the path while other people doing Tawaf causing more traffic and chaos and may wheelchairs pass over their heads or hands while Sujud ,but sadly they don't care of their selves and others people !

That's all what I observed in my short visits and all things seems to be in the safe side !

 

[OTTOMAN]

you know what i hate see going ? the 2 floor temporary tawaf.
honestly i experienced it my self its very very useful. 1st of jan this year i was staying in makkah with a friend and made umrah. i had some back and leg pain so i was walking with a cane. i could barely walk. i only did tawaf walking then used a wheel chair in safa and marwa.
those 2 floors made it possible for me. without them i dont think i could have done tawaf. cuz the ground floor was packed and ppl were over each other. there were a lot of ppl like me either had enjories or were too old or their health and body isnt strong enough for them to make tawaf on the ground floor. even a healthy young women would be hard or nearly impossible for her to do tawaf if she had a small body.
those 2 floors are life saving. ppl worry about the looks of the haram and forget about the safety and comfort of ppl.
they should really think about leaving them.. in few hours i saw enough to make me convinced it would be a mistake to remove them. today its easier for muslims from around the world to come and make umrah. its not like the past. in shaa Allah after the project is completed the haram will be full 24/7. its already full now. or most of the time
its not just practical and safe it saves lives and make it possible for many ppl to do tawaf safely. without those 2 floors in the future i think its going to be very very hard or impossible for some ppl to make tawaf. remember if you make tawaf inside the building or on the roof, depending how far you are from the kaaba, one round is equivalent to 7 rounds of tawaf near the kaaba. i also tried this.
one of the main reasons they rebuilt the building is to make it easier to make tawaf inside the building and have less pillars on your way.
also another good reason to leave them. when head of states, diplomats and VVIPs come do umrah they can use those floors instead of the ground floor. so their security wouldn't bother ppl. this is very important too. i experienced it when i went to hajj few years ago with high officials. and we had a lot of security. one smart thing they did in the new jamarat. they made an underground jamarat so high officials can go through jamarat without bothering the ppl. it really made a HUGE difference.
of course during that time the temporary tawaf wasnt there. but i saw on youtube high officials using those temporary mataf and its very clear how useful it was.

so give me your thoughts guys. should it stay or should it go ? and remember looks come last. safety and comfort of thousands of ppl come first. makkah is not the vatican lol

please tag others @Zarvan @Banu Hashim @Altamimi @Bubblegum Crisis @Mosamania @Gazi @Arabian Legend
@Yzd Khalifa @Sinan @Ahmed Jo @Gasoline @l_5LT3BRE_l @OTTOMAN @asad71 @BLACKEAGLE @AXO4D
@analyist

Unlike other Islamic states, Pakistani pilgrims are mostly elderly, they will be at ease, hence from Pakistani pilgrims POV its ideal.

I know that but dont you think this whole VVIP things is against the spirit of Islam???

If a political figure arrive, many people would like to take pictures with him or bother him.
Hence security has to come in action, which is for everyone but in case of celebrity, security adopt proactive approach, instead of reactive.

 

[asad71]

you know what i hate see going ? the 2 floor temporary tawaf.
honestly i experienced it my self its very very useful. 1st of jan this year i was staying in makkah with a friend and made umrah. i had some back and leg pain so i was walking with a cane. i could barely walk. i only did tawaf walking then used a wheel chair in safa and marwa.
those 2 floors made it possible for me. without them i dont think i could have done tawaf. cuz the ground floor was packed and ppl were over each other. there were a lot of ppl like me either had enjories or were too old or their health and body isnt strong enough for them to make tawaf on the ground floor. even a healthy young women would be hard or nearly impossible for her to do tawaf if she had a small body.
those 2 floors are life saving. ppl worry about the looks of the haram and forget about the safety and comfort of ppl.
they should really think about leaving them.. in few hours i saw enough to make me convinced it would be a mistake to remove them. today its easier for muslims from around the world to come and make umrah. its not like the past. in shaa Allah after the project is completed the haram will be full 24/7. its already full now. or most of the time
its not just practical and safe it saves lives and make it possible for many ppl to do tawaf safely. without those 2 floors in the future i think its going to be very very hard or impossible for some ppl to make tawaf. remember if you make tawaf inside the building or on the roof, depending how far you are from the kaaba, one round is equivalent to 7 rounds of tawaf near the kaaba. i also tried this.
one of the main reasons they rebuilt the building is to make it easier to make tawaf inside the building and have less pillars on your way.
also another good reason to leave them. when head of states, diplomats and VVIPs come do umrah they can use those floors instead of the ground floor. so their security wouldn't bother ppl. this is very important too. i experienced it when i went to hajj few years ago with high officials. and we had a lot of security. one smart thing they did in the new jamarat. they made an underground jamarat so high officials can go through jamarat without bothering the ppl. it really made a HUGE difference.
of course during that time the temporary tawaf wasnt there. but i saw on youtube high officials using those temporary mataf and its very clear how useful it was.

so give me your thoughts guys. should it stay or should it go ? and remember looks come last. safety and comfort of thousands of ppl come first. makkah is not the vatican lol

please tag others @Zarvan @Banu Hashim @Altamimi @Bubblegum Crisis @Mosamania @Gazi @Arabian Legend
@Yzd Khalifa @Sinan @Ahmed Jo @Gasoline @l_5LT3BRE_l @OTTOMAN @asad71 @BLACKEAGLE @AXO4D
@analyist

Anything new generally attracts negative comments at the start. I am sure the Saudi authorities know what they are doing. After all the Holy Kaaba complex has been in continuous development over the ages to meet the requirement of the time. Obviously there will be further revamping in another 50 years or so.
May Allah SWT grant the ability to all Muslims to perform the Hajj/Umrah at least once in lifetime.

 

[Banu Hashim]

you know what i hate see going ? the 2 floor temporary tawaf.
honestly i experienced it my self its very very useful. 1st of jan this year i was staying in makkah with a friend and made umrah. i had some back and leg pain so i was walking with a cane. i could barely walk. i only did tawaf walking then used a wheel chair in safa and marwa.
those 2 floors made it possible for me. without them i dont think i could have done tawaf. cuz the ground floor was packed and ppl were over each other. there were a lot of ppl like me either had enjories or were too old or their health and body isnt strong enough for them to make tawaf on the ground floor. even a healthy young women would be hard or nearly impossible for her to do tawaf if she had a small body.
those 2 floors are life saving. ppl worry about the looks of the haram and forget about the safety and comfort of ppl.
they should really think about leaving them.. in few hours i saw enough to make me convinced it would be a mistake to remove them. today its easier for muslims from around the world to come and make umrah. its not like the past. in shaa Allah after the project is completed the haram will be full 24/7. its already full now. or most of the time
its not just practical and safe it saves lives and make it possible for many ppl to do tawaf safely. without those 2 floors in the future i think its going to be very very hard or impossible for some ppl to make tawaf. remember if you make tawaf inside the building or on the roof, depending how far you are from the kaaba, one round is equivalent to 7 rounds of tawaf near the kaaba. i also tried this.
one of the main reasons they rebuilt the building is to make it easier to make tawaf inside the building and have less pillars on your way.
also another good reason to leave them. when head of states, diplomats and VVIPs come do umrah they can use those floors instead of the ground floor. so their security wouldn't bother ppl. this is very important too. i experienced it when i went to hajj few years ago with high officials. and we had a lot of security. one smart thing they did in the new jamarat. they made an underground jamarat so high officials can go through jamarat without bothering the ppl. it really made a HUGE difference.
of course during that time the temporary tawaf wasnt there. but i saw on youtube high officials using those temporary mataf and its very clear how useful it was.

so give me your thoughts guys. should it stay or should it go ? and remember looks come last. safety and comfort of thousands of ppl come first. makkah is not the vatican lol

please tag others @Zarvan @Banu Hashim @Altamimi @Bubblegum Crisis @Mosamania @Gazi @Arabian Legend
@Yzd Khalifa @Sinan @Ahmed Jo @Gasoline @l_5LT3BRE_l @OTTOMAN @asad71 @BLACKEAGLE @AXO4D
@analyist

I fully agree. I talked about this earlier in the thread actually. The thing is that there will be complains about aesthetics. If they keep the temporary mataf then they should definitely enlarge it and built more "stories".

It is an obligation to help weak pilgrims perform their religious obligations. No two ways about it.

I would say yes, it should stay forever with extended capacity,too. If I had the authority I'll make it up to 4 floors not just 2 with increased radius though ! because I know it's very helpful for many people .Surely ,it will effect badly on the general look of the holey place,but that doesn't matter if it's serves Al-rahman's guests as what prophet Mohammad (pbuh) said " ‏بَشِّرُوا وَلَا تُنَفِّرُوا وَيَسِّرُوا وَلَا تُعَسِّرُوا " .Moreover,the most important thing which I recommend to be in its high stages is " Safety Standards" ...otherwise the cons will overshadowed the pros ... Simple example,as many times when I do Umrah I observe some people (on the temporary floors) pray in the path while other people doing Tawaf causing more traffic and chaos and may wheelchairs pass over their heads or hands while Sujud ,but sadly they don't care of their selves and others people !

That's all what I observed in my short visits and all things seems to be in the safe side !

Anything new generally attracts negative comments at the start. I am sure the Saudi authorities know what they are doing. After all the Holy Kaaba complex has been in continuous development over the ages to meet the requirement of the time. Obviously there will be further revamping in another 50 years or so.
May Allah SWT grant the ability to all Muslims to perform the Hajj/Umrah at least once in lifetime.

Insha'Allah once the expansion projects have finished (this is a continuous project that I do not see the end of (almost) which many forget) more pilgrims from across the world will be able to visit Makkah and Madinah and perform umrah and hajj. All year around. The government is working hard to improve the infrastructure.

Also it is very good that the government is resorting the ancient Islamic and non-Islamic heritage of Hijaz.

‘Difficult to restore all 4,000 Asir villages’ | Arab News

For instance the Quba castle in Madinah.

I hope that they also focus more on restoring old buildings and especially buildings built in the Hijazi architecture. They did a very good job with the old town of Jeddah which has now become a World UNESCO Heritage Site. They should also do this in a city such as Yanbu. It's criminal to see such old buildings in such a poor state. Pains me.

They should also focus on traditional architecture when building new buildings. Something like this;

Look how beautiful old buildings/mosques can be when you take care of them!

 

[Rakan.SA]

I fully agree. I talked about this earlier in the thread actually. The thing is that there will be complains about aesthetics. If they keep the temporary mataf then they should definitely enlarge it and built more "stories".

It is an obligation to help weak pilgrims perform their religious obligations. No two ways about it.

i say just leave it as it is since its there. we dont want ppl to make a big fuss about it. for god sake even americans and british media are making a fuss about it and how we changed and destroyed makka and madina!!! anything to boil up muslims around the world against saudi.
the west are starting to backup ppl who wants makka and madinah something like the vatican. not under saudis government control. but under the UN or something like that. i replied over 30 million saudi bodies you MIGHT can. and id rather saudi gets hit with a nuke than let this happen. i dont even disscuss anything that is close to such ideas.

@Banu Hashim im originally from yanbu but never been there.

 

[Banu Hashim]

General statistics of the Umrah season 1436

Until 10 Jumada Awal 1436 - 28 February 2015

Total Number of the Mutamirs:

2,670,700

Meeting Turkish pilgrims;

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[Banu Hashim]

i say just leave it as it is since its there. we dont want ppl to make a big fuss about it. for god sake even americans and british media are making a fuss about it and how we changed and destroyed makka and madina!!! anything to boil up muslims around the world against saudi.
the west are starting to backup ppl who wants makka and madinah something like the vatican. not under saudis government control. but under the UN or something like that. i replied over 30 million saudi bodies you MIGHT can. and id rather saudi gets hit with a nuke than let this happen. i dont even disscuss anything that is close to such ideas.

@Banu Hashim im originally from yanbu but never been there.

The temporary mataf's design could change and it could be enlarged too. All this to make it fit better to the surroundings. In case of crying.
This is a deliberate and very old propaganda campaign against KSA. It should be ignored.

Actually one of my paternal ancestors (قتادة بن إدريس) some 25-28 generations ago hailed from Yanbu. It's a ancient city (almost 3000 years old) and a typical Hijazi coastal town. Beautiful port. What pains my heart is that the old quarters are in a very, very bad state (google the state of some of the old buildings) etc. Also don't forget the beautiful flavor festival which is one of the biggest in the ME. Women love the festival and young families. It is beautiful. Unfortunately I have not been in Yanbu for ages.

You definitely have to visit Yanbu bro.

Also do you mean ancestral ties or what?

Some more photos;

Expansion work;

Look how beautiful the new airport in Madinah is! They really made a good job. The first pilgrims have already arrived.

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[Rakan.SA]

Also do you mean ancestral ties or what?

yes im jahany.. but its not written on my national ID. we are known by our family name not the tribal. we discussed it some time ago whether to write it down on our IDs or not. my father and other elderly members refused.
me personally i didnt mind at all. but the majority of the family did. i might bring up the subject again in the future.
in my family we hate tribalism and respect ppl for who they are. for their religion manners ethics etc.. and specially the elders in my family. i think you know how bad it is in saudi. and how racist ppl are sometimes. but also it shouldn't be an excuse to change a family name.
there are a lot of families who have the same issue not only us. you see it happening a lot in saudi.

 

[Banu Hashim]

yes im jahany.. but its not written on my national ID. we are known by our family name not the tribal. we discussed it some time ago whether to write it down on our IDs or not. my father and other elderly members refused.
me personally i didnt mind at all. but the majority of the family did. i might bring up the subject again in the future.
in my family we hate tribalism and respect ppl for who they are. for their religion manners ethics etc.. and specially the elders in my family. i think you know how bad it is in saudi. and how racist ppl are sometimes. but also it shouldn't be an excuse to change a family name.
there are a lot of families who have the same issue not only us. you see it happening a lot in saudi.

Masha'Allah brother. This means that you belong to the noble and ancient Banu Aws tribe. An Ansari tribe along with the ancient Banu Khazraj tribe. You are as Hijazi as they get!

Actually I think that your family should write it on your national ID. This is after all your heritage.

About the racism etc. then I must admit, although I do not like it, that this is a problem still. Especially in terms of our Afro-Arab brothers and sisters and the big non-Arabian communities of Hijaz that are now Saudi Arabian citizens. Mostly it is due to ignorance and it is not that big anymore. New generation is different.

Also of course people should be judged by their actions etc. This is evident in the teachings of Islam but should also be logical. I am just a traditionalist as you may know.

I am starving. I have to do some shopping, make some food or buy something.

Once I get access to my old user we can talk outside the forum. I don't like the current condition of PDF. Too many clowns and lack of serious discussions. Contact @Arabian Legend @Bubblegum Crisis or @BLACKEAGLE . Will explain latter.

Speaking about Yanbu then you must definitely visit it. I suggest doing a family trip to see all the historic areas. There are actually some very good international hotel chains in Yanbu and resorts.







Yanbu is known for its amazing seafood.

Of course a lot of infrastructure must be built etc. if the goal is to turn Yanbu into a Sharm el-Sheikh etc. The potential is very big.

I want to see our entire beautiful and tropical Red Sea coastline more developed. It would be amazing. Look at the potential of KAEC in Rabigh etc. They should definitely make something similar in Madinah Province one day don't you think?

Sorry for the long post, when I first get started you know how it ends.

Finally Yanbu has some of the most beautiful coral reefs in the world.

Remember that talk about sailing across our entire beloved Arabian Peninsula? If such a thing ever happens (I pray that it does) Yanbu should definitely be a stop on such a trip!

 

[Rakan.SA]

Once I get access to my old user we can talk outside the forum. I don't like the current condition of PDF. Too many clowns and lack of serious discussions

YES i agree with you. il send you my email just in case. il share with you some thoughts and info. regarding madinah and yanbu

 

[Banu Hashim]

YES i agree with you. il send you my email just in case. il share with you some thoughts and info. regarding madinah and yanbu

Got it! Yes, please do so.

Anyway we better return to the topic but you got to visit Yanbu bro!

 

[p4kistan]

also another good reason to leave them. when head of states, diplomats and VVIPs come do umrah they can use those floors instead of the ground floor. so their security wouldn't bother ppl. this is very important too. i experienced it when i went to hajj few years ago with high officials. and we had a lot of security. one smart thing they did in the new jamarat. they made an underground jamarat so high officials can go through jamarat without bothering the ppl. it really made a HUGE difference.
of course during that time the temporary tawaf wasnt there. but i saw on youtube high officials using those temporary mataf and its very clear how useful it was.l

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@analyist

This treatment and favoritism beats the point of Hajj & Umrah.

"
All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone."