I'm not here for trolling but I get very uncomfortable when I see these dozens of billions being spent to make the masjid bigger and more beautiful.
Do we really need that ? Sure since more and more pilgrims come some changes need to be made but from the images I've seen it really look too big in my opinion. It actually reminds me of a hadith in which the prophet (sws) said that a sign of the time is that mosques will be beautiful but the heart of the people will be ugly. Isn't it a desease in the heart to spend so much money on these projects when some people through all the world can't even answer their basic needs?
So here's my question to people familiar with saudi society :
Is the topic discussed among Saudis, among scholars ? Are there contestations ? How are you personnaly feeling towards this topic
I thought the simplicity in which king Abdallah was buried was truly beautiful, and I find it sad that this spirit of simplicity can't be kept for building the mosques
"More beautiful" is a personal opinion. I don't see any extravagance as seen in for instance Najaf or Karbala.
Both Al-Masjid Al-Haram in Makkah and Al-Masjid Al-Nabawi in Madinah are ongoing expansion because the need for that is pressing. For each year there are more and more Muslims on this planet and more and more Muslims can afford to travel to Hijaz for hajj and umrah.
Let me ask you if you are aware of the great difficulty of the average Muslim outside of the GCC to travel to Makkah and Madinah for hajj or umrah? Some people wait their entire life without getting this chance due to competition.
The expansions are done for the sake of the pilgrims which should always be the priority. Not for the sake of extravagance or beauty.
Yes all of that is discussed among locals, clerics etc. There is a consensus about the need for the expansions though and most people are looking forward to it.
A burial and the two most holy places in Islam are two different things brother. Allow me to disagree with you here.
Old photo from 2008;
''Serve your religion, country, people well'' King Salman tells emirs and ministers
Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Salman attends the ceremony where
emirs and ministers took the oath of office before him in Riyadh on Sunday.
Monday, 02 February 2015
RIYADH — The newly appointed emirs and ministers took the oath of office before Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Salman here on Sunday.
Addressing them, King Salman said: “It is hoped from our ministers and emirs of regions that they will do good. They are from the roots of this country that was unified by Allah and then the late King Abdul Aziz. Thanks to Allah it is enjoying security, prosperity, stability and unity. “The Kingdom is the Qibla of Muslims and it is the cradle of revelation.
“Our loyalty is to our country and people. The late King Abdullah’s advice was to serve our citizens and religion before anything else. Thanks to Allah, this state since it was unified by King Abdul Aziz has been in security and stability. We pray to Allah Almighty to grant us success to serve our religion, country and people.” — SPA
http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index...20150202232435
In front of Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques:
Princes, ministers, governors of regions, and Assistant
Speaker of Majlis Al-Shura swear an oath
Riyadh, Rabi'II 12, 1436, February 01, 2015, SPA
In front of the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud and in presence of the Crown Prince and the Deputy Crown Prince; princes, ministers Cabinet's members, governors of regions, and assistant speaker of Majlis Al-Shura, who were appointed by royal orders in their posts, swore an oath at Al-Yamamah Palace in Riyadh today.
At first, they all listened to the recitation of the verses from the Holy Quran.
They included Prince Mansour bin Miteb bin Abdulaziz, Minister of State, Cabinet's Member and Advisor to the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques; Prince Miteb bin Abdullah bin Abdulaziz, Minister of National Guard; Prince Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz, Minister of Defense; Minister of Islamic Affairs, Endowments, Call and Guidance Sheikh Saleh bin Abdulaziz bin Mohammed bin Ibrahim Al Al-Sheikh; Minister of Justice Dr. Walid bin Mohammed bin Saleh Al-Sama'ani; Minister of State and Cabinet's Member Dr. Mutlab bin Abdullah Al-Nafisah; Minister of State and Cabinet's Member Dr. Musaed bin Mohammed Al-Aiban; Minister of Petroleum and Mineral Resources Ali bin Ibrahim Al-Naimi; Minister of Finance Dr. Ibrahim bin Abdulaziz Al-Assaf; Minister of Water and Electricity Engineer Abdullah bin Abdulrahman Al-Hossein; Minister of Labor Adel bin Mohammed bin Abdul Qader Faqih; Minister of Housing Dr. Shuwaish bin Saud bin Dhuwaihi Al-Dhuwaihi; Minister of Hajj Dr. Bandar bin Mohammed bin Hamza Asaad Hajjar; Minister of Economy and Planning Dr. Mohammed bin Suleiman bin Mohammed Al-Jasser; Minister of Commerce and Industry Dr. Tawfiq bin Fawzan bin Mohammed Al-Rabiah; Minister of State and Cabinet's Member for Majlis Al-Shura Affairs Mohammed bin Faisal bin Jaber Abu Saq; Minister of State and Cabinet's Member Dr. Essam bin Saad bin Said; Minister of Transport Engineer Abdullah bin Abdulrahman Al-Muqbil; Minister of Communications and Information Technology Dr. Mohammed bin Ibrahim Al-Suwaiyel; Minister of Social Affairs Dr. Majed bin Abdullah Al-Qasabi; Minister of State and Cabinet's Member Dr. Saad bin Khalid bin Saadallah Al-Jabri; Minister of State and Cabinet's Member Mohammed bin Abdul Malik bin Abdullah Al Al-Sheikh; Minister of Municipal and Rural Affairs Engineer Abdul Latif bin Abdul Malik bin Omar Al Al-Sheikh; Minister of Health Ahmed bin Aqeel Al-Khatib; Minister of Civil Service Khalid bin Abdullah Al-Araj; Minister of Culture and Information Dr. Adel bin Zaid Al-Turaifi; Minister of Agriculture Abdulrahman bin Abdulmohsen Al-Fadhli; and Minister of Education Dr. Azzam bin Mohammed Al-Dakhil.
They swore separately saying, 'In the name of Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful, I swear by Allah Almighty to be loyal to my religion, King and country, and not to divulge a secret of the State secrets, to maintain its interests and regulations, and to perform my duties sincerely, honestly and faithfully.
The princes and ministers who swore the oath shook hands with the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques.
Then, the princes, who were appointed by Royal Orders as Governors of Makkah, Riyadh and Qassim Regions, swore the oath. They included Prince Khalid Al-Faisal bin Abdulaziz, Advisor of the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques and Governor of Makkah Region; Prince Faisal bin Bandar bin Abdulaziz, Governor of Riyadh Region; and Prince Faisal bin Mishaal bin Saud bin Abdulaziz, Governor of Qassim Region. Moreover, Dr. Yahya bin Abdullah Al-Samaan who was appointed by a Royal Order as Assistant Speaker of Majlis Al-Shura, swore the oath.
They swore separately saying, 'In the name of Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful, I swear by Allah Almighty to be loyal to my religion, King and country, and not to divulge a secret of the State secrets, to maintain its interests and regulations, and to perform my duties sincerely, honestly and faithfully.'
Then, they shook hands with the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques.
Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud delivered a speech on this occasion, in which he expressed confidence in the ministers and governors of the regions, describing them as the roots of this country which was unified by Allah and then by the late King Abdulaziz based on the Holy Quran and the Sunnah. King Salman also said that the country is blessed with security, prosperity, stability and unity.
The Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques also said that Muslims travel to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to perform Hajj and Umrah as the place of revelation is Makkah and Madinah. Thank to Allah Almighty, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia enjoys security and stability. Our devotion to our country and our people is a matter that we were brought up to do since the era of former kings - from the late King Abdulaziz to the late King Abdullah.
Praise be to Allah Almighty, this country has enjoyed security and stability since being unified by the late King Abdulaziz to its new era. Also, this country has been based on Islam and the Islamic faith since being founded by Mohammed bin Saud, the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques concluded.
The oath taking ceremony was attended by Prince Bandar bin Mohammed bin Abdulrahman; Prince Abdul Ilah bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, Advisor to Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques; Prince Faisal bin Mohammed bin Saud Al-Kabeer; Prince Khalid bin Fahd bin Khalid; Prince Mohammed bin Saad bin Abdulaziz; Prince Mishaal bin Saud bin Abdulaziz; Prince Faisal bin Abdulaziz bin Faisal; Prince Saud Al-Abdullah Al-Faisal; Prince Sultan bin Mohammed bin Saud; Prince Saud bin Saad bin Abdulaziz; Prince Turki bin Nasser bin Abdulaziz; Prince Khalid bin Saad bin Abdulaziz; Prince Faisal bin Abdullah bin Mohammed; Prince Badr bin Abdulmohsen bin Abdulaziz; Prince Turki bin Mohammed bin Saud, Undersecretary of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for Multilateral Relations; Prince Saud bin Fahd bin Abdulaziz; Prince Talal bin Saud bin Abdulaziz; Prince Badr bin Fahd bin Saad; Prince Dr. Abdulrahman bin Saud Al-Kabeer; Prince Khalid bin Bandar bin Abdulaziz, Advisor to the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques; Prince Saud bin Abdullah bin Thunayan, President of the Royal Commission for Jubail and Yanbu; Prince Fahd bin Abdullah bin Musaed; Prince Faisal bin Mohammed bin Saud bin Abdulaziz; Prince Sattam bin Saud bin Abdulaziz; Prince Abdulaziz bin Fahd bin Saad; Prince Sultan bin Salman bin Abdulaziz, President of Saudi Commission for Tourism and Antiquities; Prince Faisal bin Saud bin Mohammed; Prince Al-Waleed bin Saud bin Abdulaziz; Prince Dr. Mishaal bin Abdullah bin Musaed, Advisor to the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques; Prince Dr. Turki bin Saud bin Mohammed, President of King Abdulaziz City for Science and Technology; Prince Saud bin Salman bin Mohammed; Prince Badr bin Abdullah bin Abdulrahman; and Prince Mohammed bin Salman bin Mohammed.
The oath taking ceremony was also attended by Prince Khalid bin Saud bin Khalid, Assistant Minister of Foreign Minister; Prince Ahmed bin Abdullah bin Abdulrahman, Governor of Dir'iya; Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman bin Abdulaziz, Deputy Minister of Petroleum and Mineral Resources; Prince Mohammed bin Saud bin Khalid, Undersecretary of Foreign Ministry for Information and Technology Affairs; Prince Abdulaziz bin Abdullah bin Abdulaziz, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs; Prince Bandar bin Salman bin Mohammed, Advisor of the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques; Prince Dr. Abdulaziz bin Sattam bin Abdulaziz, Advisor of the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques; Prince Faisal bin Turki bin Abdulaziz, Advisor at the Ministry of Petroleum and Mineral Resources; Prince Faisal bin Abdulmajeed bin Abdulaziz; Prince Faisal bin Salman bin Abdulaziz, Governor of Madinah Region; Prince Mishaal bin Abdullah bin Abdulaziz; Prince Turki bin Abdullah bin Abdulaziz; Prince Mansour bin Muqrin bin Abdulaziz, Advisor at the Crown Prince's Court; Prince Sultan bin Mishaal bin Abdulaziz; Prince Faisal bin Khalid bin Sultan, Advisor at the Crown Prince's Court; Prince Salman bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz; Prince Nawaf bin Faisal bin Fahd; Prince Abdulaziz bin Abdulrahman bin Nasser bin Abdulaziz; Prince Naif bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz, Advisor at the Defense Minister's Office; Prince Bandar bin Muqrin bin Abdulaziz; Prince Abdulaziz bin Nawaf bin Abdulaziz; Prince Abdulaziz bin Saud bin Naif bin Abdulaziz; Prince Majed bin Abdullah bin Abdulaziz; Prince Faisal bin Fahd bin Muqrin bin Abdulaziz; Prince Abdullah bin Bandar bin Abdulaziz; Prince Saud bin Salman bin Abdulaziz; Prince Abdulaziz bin Abdulrahman bin Saud; Prince Bandar bin Salman bin Abdulaziz; a number of Princes; Saudi Arabia's Grand Mufti and President of Senior Scholars Council Sheikh Abdulaziz bin Abdullah Al Al-Sheikh; a number of ministers, senior commanders and officers of the Armed Forces, Public Security, National Guard, Royal Guard; and a number of officials.