Making Sense of the Chinese People's Liberation Army's New Tracks at Doklam

[Tauren Paladin]

India should've let China construct the road. Now, Doklam is militarized by China and....more roads have been built.

 

[Han Patriot]

Bulldozer will do no need of war dude

Bulldozer crossing again will be war dude. All those prep we have ongoing is to prepare for this.

Didn't China already try that once and got humiliated (after all enemy troops squatting in your country for two months and all you could do was, yap, that is pretty disgraceful).

Now it is D-Day + 4 months, and all we see are excuses...some Chinese are blaming the weather, others are calming the timing is not auspicious yet to begin road construction, perhaps next you guys will claim, "the Vaastu was not right to build road there, but hey, we built a road a few kilometers away, hence we won."

Squating for 2 months and then retreated when we threatened war. Please don't take our peaceful tone for granted.
We will build the road, but let me ask you this, what is the purpose of a road? It is an instrument of occupation, what just happened in Doklam Plateau btw? We occupied it. So instead of worrying about occupation, you are worried about a road? Instead of worrying about a murder, you are worried about the knife? Such geniuses.

Are you sure ?

Yes I am pretty sure because with helipads, bunkers, new roads and ammunition stores, India is still not crossing over to defend Bhutan.

Looking at the reaction of the Indians here is priceless, they exert a confident and arrogant posture yet they are actually afraid and worried about the recent news.

1) First they said we were not building any roads in Doklam. Now it is proven the roads are in Doklam.

2) Then they said no troops in Doklam, now we know they are 1000+ troops there.

3) Before that they said we retreated, then we found out it was they who retreated back to Doka La.

4) Now they say we will not build the road, but instead we build helipads, ammunition stores, and bunkers. hahaha

ONE SIMPLE QUESTION, WHY DID INDIA RUN LIKE A COWARD? Why aren't you defending Bhutan?

 

[noksss]

Bulldozer crossing again will be war dude. All those prep we have ongoing is to prepare for this.


Squating for 2 months and then retreated when we threatened war. Please don't take our peaceful tone for granted.
We will build the road, but let me ask you this, what is the purpose of a road? It is an instrument of occupation, what just happened in Doklam Plateau btw? We occupied it. So instead of worrying about occupation, you are worried about a road? Instead of worrying about a murder, you are worried about the knife? Such geniuses.


Yes I am pretty sure because with helipads, bunkers, new roads and ammunition stores, India is still not crossing over to defend Bhutan.

Looking at the reaction of the Indians here is priceless, they exert a confident and arrogant posture yet they are actually afraid and worried about the recent news.

1) First they said we were not building any roads in Doklam. Now it is proven the roads are in Doklam.

2) Then they said no troops in Doklam, now we know they are 1000+ troops there.

3) Before that they said we retreated, then we found out it was they who retreated back to Doka La.

4) Now they say we will not build the road, but instead we build helipads, ammunition stores, and bunkers. hahaha

ONE SIMPLE QUESTION, WHY DID INDIA RUN LIKE A COWARD? Why aren't you defending Bhutan?

Now that you guys have all your great helipads, ammunition stores, and bunkers why not extend the roads southwards towards the militarily-sensitive Jampheri Ridge which was the reason of the earlier conflict ?

One simple question , Why china lied about India reducing troops some months before in doklam when the conflict is ongoing? Desperation much ? that's quite brave of you guys

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...ys-no-reduction-in-troops-117080201528_1.html

 

[desimorty]

1) First they said we were not building any roads in Doklam. Now it is proven the roads are in Doklam.

2) Then they said no troops in Doklam, now we know they are 1000+ troops there.

3) Before that they said we retreated, then we found out it was they who retreated back to Doka La.

4) Now they say we will not build the road, but instead we build helipads, ammunition stores, and bunkers. hahaha

ONE SIMPLE QUESTION, WHY DID INDIA RUN LIKE A COWARD? Why aren't you defending Bhutan?

According to the PLA and CCP Indian army invaded 180 meters into Chinese territory. 180 meters. You really built a road into this area? I doubt it. Look at the actual area of conflict. PLA is at Doklam. They don't have the road, extended beyond which was the PLA project.
Apperantly it was a 4 star general in the Tibetan command that may have ordered the construction. In August/june this 4 star rank was quietly removed.
Face saving may work for a domestic audience and the ignorant. It doesn't work so much with real people.
Again look at the road at the trijuction. The PLA was trying to stretch it into Bhutan or a high height. Look at a google map. Its cleary in What Bhutan claims as its own, operated by the PLA being stretched further to higher was the problem.
India didn't do anything wrong. Infact, India was right, but still allowed China alot of face saving. India removed soldiers first.
From China's perspective, China saved face. From India's prespective, WAR was diverted over 180 Meters of barren land.

 

[Han Patriot]

Now that you guys have all your great helipads, ammunition stores, and bunkers why not extend the roads southwards towards the militarily-sensitive Jampheri Ridge which was the reason of the earlier conflict ?

One simple question , Why china lied about India reducing troops some months before in doklam when the conflict is ongoing? Desperation much ? that's quite brave of you guys

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...ys-no-reduction-in-troops-117080201528_1.html

As per the analysis, China will only expand after fortifying our positions and also having all major equipment and supplies reach Tibet. This is in case India crosses again and escalates to a full blown war. Chinese media is reporting that all previously transported equipment and supplies are still in Tibet and more are being brought in to reinforce a long term war.

Apparently you did not follow our discussions on this issue, apparently the Indian media was lying about troop reduction, China was reporting about the actual situation on the ground, where India reduced troops to 40 ppl as a gesture for peaceful negotiations. When China released the official document, Indian MEA did not deny it at all, it was Indian media lying, same like they previously lied about us retreating when our MOFA clearly stated we were still there. It was only now with satellite imagery and new exposures, the Indian media is finally admiting we never left at all. You created a imaginary victory to feel good, understand?

Read that article again, please find me an official MEA response to the Chinese release, NOTHING. Apparently what happened was the few hundred troops retreated back to Doka La, 100 meters away as a peaceful gesture leaving only 40 troops on the Chinese side. Then these Indian officers trying to save face trying to save face told the media they didn't reduce troops in Doklam, which technically includes Doka La on the India side. The same geographic term was also applied to save face and telling the media they are still patrolling in Doklam when in fact they are back in their borders. Last attempt to save face and portray an heroic image when in fact there were no official announcement from the Indian MEA and confirmation from Chinese MOFA Indian troops retreated else they would already have been a war.Get it genius. You guys are infamous in lying, boasting, bragging, blaming and giving excuses. That is the typical Indian, and your culture proclaims these as 'smart values'.

According to the PLA and CCP Indian army invaded 180 meters into Chinese territory. 180 meters. You really built a road into this area? I doubt it. Look at the actual area of conflict. PLA is at Doklam. They don't have the road, extended beyond which was the PLA project.
Apperantly it was a 4 star general in the Tibetan command that may have ordered the construction. In August/june this 4 star rank was quietly removed.
Face saving may work for a domestic audience and the ignorant. It doesn't work so much with real people.
Again look at the road at the trijuction. The PLA was trying to stretch it into Bhutan or a high height. Look at a google map. Its cleary in What Bhutan claims as its own, operated by the PLA being stretched further to higher was the problem.
India didn't do anything wrong. Infact, India was right, but still allowed China alot of face saving. India removed soldiers first.
From China's perspective, China saved face. From India's prespective, WAR was diverted over 180 Meters of barren land.

Apparently or not, all these reports are from Indian media sources, you can choose to believe whatever you want. Chinese road stopped at Doka La, I even found that road in Bing Maps, you can check it yourself. That is actually 5km deep inside Doklam plateau, Doka La is actually at the end of the plateau, India had one base at either end, Batang La and Doka La.

Whether the claim is legitimate is not the matter, we were willing to exchange land with Bhutan for this strategic piece of territory, which was the plateau, not Jampheri Ridge as you all proclaim. We are extending it to Gyomochen peak as a symbolic move to strengthen our claim.Check both google maps and bing in 3D and you will understand why this piece of land is so strategic. Btw, I am not here to discuss about whether it is correct for India to interfere, you just set a precedent for us to interfere on behalf of Pakistan. A two front war is definitely more likely now due to your paranoia.

The higher elevation flat land crisscrossed with roads is Doklam plateau, the lower elevation ridge is Jampheri. We currently occupied the plateau area, highest elevation flat piece of land facing Siliguri. Thank You India.

 

[desimorty]

The higher elevation flat land crisscrossed with roads is Doklam plateau, the lower elevation ridge is Jampheri. We currently occupied the plateau area, highest elevation flat piece of land facing Siliguri. Thank You India.

The higher elevation area is further down doklam. Doklam is lower elevation compared the Indian positions. And no... If PLA builds anything beyond this area of concern and against border agreements with Bhutan and Tibetan command than you have reason for Indian intervention. And Sikkim is 1 area where the Indian army has a clear advantage. To the north of Sikkim the Indian army has roughly 100-200 armoured vehicles. The can easily take the Chumbu Valley in the event of a war. and easily is Himalayan easily.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The higher elevation area is further down doklam. Doklam is lower elevation compared the Indian positions. And no... If PLA builds anything beyond this area of concern and against border agreements with Bhutan and Tibetan command than you have reason for Indian intervention. And Sikkim is 1 area where the Indian army has a clear advantage. To the north of Sikkim the Indian army has roughly 100-200 armoured vehicles. The can easily take the Chumbu Valley in the event of a war. and easily is Himalayan easily.

India already has reason for intervention, they have a mutual defence treaty with Bhutan, and they officially consider Donglang to be Bhutan's territory.

Today there are thousands of Chinese troops, permanent garrisons, helipads, and multiple major roads in Donglang, which were not there a few months ago.

India has an obligation to push Chinese troops out of Donglang, otherwise their mutual defence treaty with Bhutan will be seen as worthless.

 

[Photon]

Bulldozer crossing again will be war dude. All those prep we have ongoing is to prepare for this.


Squating for 2 months and then retreated when we threatened war. Please don't take our peaceful tone for granted.
We will build the road, but let me ask you this, what is the purpose of a road? It is an instrument of occupation, what just happened in Doklam Plateau btw? We occupied it. So instead of worrying about occupation, you are worried about a road? Instead of worrying about a murder, you are worried about the knife? Such geniuses.

You threatened war daily for two months, it did not make an ounce of difference, it is only when your government assured us, that it has canned those plans, did we move our troops back.

You will not build a road there, because we will not let you. If you could, you would have already.

Our aim is not to stop you from building infrastructure on your border.

But pushing tri junction further South toward silliguri corridor, by building that road.

 

[Han Patriot]

You threatened war daily for two months, it did not make an ounce of difference, it is only when your government assured us, that it has canned those plans, did we move our troops back.

You will not build a road there, because we will not let you. If you could, you would have already.

Our aim is not to stop you from building infrastructure on your border.

But pushing tri junction further South toward silliguri corridor, by building that road.

Well, you cowards retreated even just based on verbal threat.
Not a single bullet fired bhai!

Your government assurance is as good as shit, when have GOI ever been competent at anything?

You can talk as much as you want, the fact is with or wihtout he road, the whole Doklam Plateau had been occupied. No wonder Brahma C said India won a battle stopping a road, but lost a war losing the whole plateau. You traded a cow for a few beans Jack. Pure genius.

Btw, the helipads, new roads after the conflict, weapon stores and bunkers are on the plateau, here is a map for you.

The higher elevation area is further down doklam. Doklam is lower elevation compared the Indian positions. And no... If PLA builds anything beyond this area of concern and against border agreements with Bhutan and Tibetan command than you have reason for Indian intervention. And Sikkim is 1 area where the Indian army has a clear advantage. To the north of Sikkim the Indian army has roughly 100-200 armoured vehicles. The can easily take the Chumbu Valley in the event of a war. and easily is Himalayan easily.

The image above is GOOGLE MAPS, are they lying? Doklam is a disputed region from Batang La to the North till Gyomochen to the South, Doklam plateau is a plateau inside Doklam. Understand?

If India is at a higher elevation, then you won't be worried about Doklam in the first place right?c
There maybe a few peaks at the border (shared with China) which has higher elevation but having a flat land of that size to house hundreds of missiles and howitzers to bombard Siliguri, Doklam Plateau is the only choice my friend. Why do you think we were willing to swap much larger territory for it?

You may and can take this and that, but where are you now even after we occupied Doklam Plateau? Do you dare cross again? No. Because once you cross, whatever we have planned for you will be executed. Your drone crossed over and got zapped, do you dare cross over now? Btw, I am not hearing a single squeak this 1-2 weeks. Ever wondered why it crashed?