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Just a question, why being obsessed with that sanctioned 45 sqds numbers? The important data is "operational contract" aka number and types of missions/cost/availability etc. More important than sheer number of planes no?
 
Just a question, why being obsessed with that sanctioned 45 sqds numbers? The important data is "operational contract" aka number and types of missions/cost/availability etc. More important than sheer number of planes no?

to catch with her neighbours
 
Sweden's SAAB sweetens deal for gripen jet.


In an aggressive push to capture a share in India’s fighter aircraft market, Swedish aerospace major SAAB has offered its latest radar technology as part of the Gripen fighter package along with significant technology transfer in addition to design consultancy for developing the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Mk-1A which the Indian Air Force (IAF) plans to induct in large numbers.

The move comes even as India is looking to select a single engine fighter aircraft to be built in India in large numbers under the ‘Make in India’ initiative.


Explaining the developments in Advanced Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, Lars Tossman, vice-president & Head of Communications of SAAB said that they were the first company to develop an AESA radar with Gallium Nitride which, he said, significantly enhances its efficiency and performance over the current AESA radars.

“We will be willing to share this and transfer the technology to India,” he told a group of visiting Indian journalists. India is looking to select a single engine fighter aircraft to be built in large numbers in India with extensive technology transfer for which the SAAB had offered its latest Gripen E fighter. “Our Transfer of Technology [ToT] is more than just transfer of assembly work aiming for an indigenous system of systems integration capability to create indigenous capabilities,” said Mats Palmberg, heading the SAAB Gripen program for India. Mr. Palmberg said that with AESA radar, stealth was not as important as it was earlier.

Strategic partnership
The company officials said that SAAB was looking for a strategic partner for the Gripen program in the long-term and India and Sweden have good relations without political compulsions.

Officials said Gripen was the first fighter to be integrated with the Meteor, Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missile. India is procuring the Meteor, considered a game changer with its range of 150 km, as part of the Rafale package concluded with France recently.

Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd., which is manufacturing the LCA, is looking for foreign design assistance on the LCA Mk-1A to make specific improvements sought by the IAF which include an AESA radar, mid-air refuelling and improved electronic warfare suite which need design change in addition to other minor improvements.

The SAAB officials said that both the LCA and the Gripen are of similar class and also share the same General Electric engine citing commonality in maintenance and operation. “We have submitted proposals to India on LCA,” Mr. Tossman said.

In addition the SAAB officials offered help in the development of the next-generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) being designed by Aeronautical Design Agency (ADA).
 
Suddenly its raining AESA ... That too GaN AESA ... Israel, French & now Sweeden ..

If Usa didn't block Israel to export AESA in the past, we could be having Gripen C/D with Israel AESA ..
 
Suddenly its raining AESA ... That too GaN AESA ... Israel, French & now Sweeden ..

If Usa didn't block Israel to export AESA in the past, we could be having Gripen C/D with Israel AESA ..


This means that our own AESA program is progressing well. Going by the history ,we were offered only that technology by west which we have either mastered or were about to master.
 
This means that our own AESA program is progressing well. Going by the history ,we were offered only that technology by west which we have either mastered or were about to master.

Exactly, now we are out of platforms for own AESA. ...

Lca , jaguars- Israel
Rafale RBE French
Pak fa , super Sukhoi - Russian

All that left is Mig29..
 
Exactly, now we are out of platforms for own AESA. ...

Lca , jaguars- Israel
Rafale RBE French
Pak fa , super Sukhoi - Russian

All that left is Mig29..

Prasun's comment on this situation on aesa, looks like IAF is trying too many

To PARTHIB: If you want only AESA-MMRs of Israeli & Russian origin, then by all means do try convincing the French to install & integrate non-French AESA-MMRs on the Rafale & find out for yourself what the asking price in monetary terms is for such work. While Russia’s Tikhomirov Scientific Research Institute of Instrument Design (NIIP) is the OEM for both the NO-36 Byelka & the AESA-MMR version of the NO-11M/RLSU-30MK, Phazatron JSC is the OEM for the Zhuk-AE FGA-35 AESA-MMR that will go on the MiG-29Ks during their mid-life upgrades. The EL/M-2052 will go on the Jaguar IS/DARIN-3 & Tejas Mk.2, while the RBE-2 will go on the Rafale. Thus, 5 different types of AESA-MMRs from 4 different foreign OEMs will enter service, with each of them requiring their own purpose-built MRO facilities—a cost-prohibitive exercise never before attempted by anyone else. Even in Europe & North America, the OEMs for AESA-MMRs are all based in those continents & this in turn greatly reduces product-support costs & hence acquiring multiple types of AESA-MMRs for airborne platforms there becomes affordable.

http://trishul-trident.blogspot.in/2016/06/thats-airpower-for-you-2.html
 
the final tally for IAF by 2025 is

rafale 36+18 for IAF and 18+18 of IN

63 Upgraded Mig29

52 Upgraded M2K

126 Upgraded to D-3 Jaguars

126 Uggraded Bisons

20(MK1)+80+40 (MK1A) LCA Tejas

90-126 "on order" F-16 Blk70/72

in short F-16 IAF me aave h aave
 
the final tally for IAF by 2025 is

rafale 36+18 for IAF and 18+18 of IN

63 Upgraded Mig29

52 Upgraded M2K

126 Upgraded to D-3 Jaguars

126 Uggraded Bisons

20(MK1)+80+40 (MK1A) LCA Tejas

90-126 "on order" F-16 Blk70/72

in short F-16 IAF me aave h aave
Just one question guruji, what is the upgraded bisons??
You are still hopeful about the f-16 block 70s i see.:D
 
Just one question guruji, what is the upgraded bisons??
You are still hopeful about the f-16 block 70s i see.:D
well upgraded bisons are coming or are roumered to be the first to be having with desi version of GaA based AESA radar and new gen combined and comcat desi avionicks suite :whistle:

as for aef sollahs well they are comming and no matter how much theatrics SAAB does it has no chance3 against might of americans and new DM & PM both hate it deu to games it played in delaying MRCA deal
 
Exactly, now we are out of platforms for own AESA. ...

Lca , jaguars- Israel
Rafale RBE French
Pak fa , super Sukhoi - Russian

All that left is Mig29..

Jaguars will not be equipped with AESA, there is no apparent advantage of it. Mig-29 might be a candidate for domestic AESA radars.
 
well upgraded bisons are coming or are roumered to be the first to be having with desi version of GaA based AESA radar and new gen combined and comcat desi avionicks suite :whistle:
You mean upgrading the current fleet of bisons.:o::o:
No no no no. We are retiring these vintage era interceptors and they will not be getting the upgrades you are saying.
 
well upgraded bisons are coming or are roumered to be the first to be having with desi version of GaA based AESA radar and new gen combined and comcat desi avionicks suite :whistle:

as for aef sollahs well they are comming and no matter how much theatrics SAAB does it has no chance3 against might of americans and new DM & PM both hate it deu to games it played in delaying MRCA deal

AESA in mig21 ?:o:
Space for radar & coolant :o:
 

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