Maharaja Ranjit Singh, the conqueror of Afghanistan

[Imran Khan]

I'm willing to bet this 'Panjabi Tiger' is actually Indian

he love green color that's why he use our flags

 

[shelly]

do you want to know what the mslim invaders you so adore did to hindu temples?
this is hardly anything. the mosque still stands

@ Abingdonboy


Don't wanna believe me...look for yourself

"On 7 July 1799, the Sikh militia of the Sukerchakia chief, Ranjit Singh, took control of Lahore.[3] After the capture of the city, the Badshahi Mosque was severely damaged when Ranjit Singh used its vast courtyard as a stable for his army's horses and its 80 hujras (small study rooms surrounding the courtyard) as quarters for his soldiers and as magazines for military stores. Ranjit Singh used the Hazuri Bagh, the enclosed garden next to the Mosque as his official royal court of audience.[4]
In 1841, during the Sikh civil war, Ranjit Singh's son, Sher Singh, used the Mosque's large minarets for placement of zamburahs or light guns, which were placed atop the minarets to bombard the supporters of the Sikh Maharani Chand Kaur taking refuge in the besieged Lahore Fort, inflicting great damage to the Fort itself. In one of these bombardments, the Fort's Diwan-e-Aam (Hall of Public Audience) was destroyed (it was subsequently rebuilt by the British but never regained its original architectural splendour).[5] During this time, Henri De la Rouche, a French cavalry officer employed in the army of Sher Singh,[6] used a tunnel connecting the Badshahi Mosque to the Lahore Fort to temporarily store gunpowder.[7]"

Badshahi Mosque - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Badshahi Mosque was damaged and misused during the reign of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, the Sikh Ruler of the Punjab. The four domes on top of its four minarets were used by the Sikhs for cannon practice and destroyed. The Mosque was converted into a stable for the horses of Ranjit Singh’s army and also used as a gun powder magazine for military stores."

Badshahi Mosque Lahore

 

[Imran Khan]

folks don't be emotional worlds was not civilized that time as today and less war rules then today .

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

Khan saab,
Peshawar ( North west frontier province, and fatas ) formed part of east Afghanistan, there was no pakistan or british empire before ranjit singh, there was only ahmad shah durrani who founded afghanistan, and peshawar was in afghanistan
But if you are a proud pakistani pashtuns, you can thank's ranjit singh ( and the british who recuperated his conquests of nwfp and fatas )

Pa ji provide authentic sources which prove that sikhs occupied afghan areas other than peshawer valley. Sikhs never set foot in FATA.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

Exactly, so he conquered east afghania



Yeah so he conquered east Afghanistan

What exactly was east afghanistan?. The durrani empire was very vast, peshawer valley was its border area, you cant label it east afghanistan. Sikhs never conqueored FATA, malakand region, southren districts of KP, pashtun areas of balochistan. They only occupied peshawer valley and hazara (which is non-pashtun region). Achievements of ranjeet singh west of indus are not that impressive.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Sadly they dont read about that in the history books, specially the CBSE/NCERT ones. pages are not enough to glorify the mughals and the delhi sultanates. How come native kings like Raja raja and Rajendra will be mentioned ?

*facepalm*



Actually it was. The Chola Navy played a crucial role in maintaining the hold over those kingdoms and the King's representative held suzerainity over the local kings.

Actually it seems discussions are going around my name and my son's empire

 

[ALOK31]

IMO, it is only the Cholas who actually had an out of Indian subcontinent influence and rule.

It really depends on how you define "historic India". This basically includes the entire SAARC countries as well as the lower Central Asian countries which have had close ties and migrations into the Indus Valley regions for many centuries and are part of Indian mythology since the time of the Vedas and have major roles in Ramayana and Mahabharta.

All other Indian rulers from the Mauryas, Guptas, Kushans, Mughals, Suris or later the Sikh empires were all recapturing areas that were already part of the Indian subcontinent. It was like the small states in Germany and Italy after the collapse of the Roman Empire who were fighting with each other with one power taking over major territories and eventually unifying for a period of time before a collapse and the cycle repeating again. Even at their height like under Ashoka for the Mauryas or Aurangzeb under Mughals the maximum stretch was till Kabul that was still part of the Indian subcontinent. The Kushans might be credited with some conquests into Iranian territory as well as western China but only slightly and for a short period.

The Cholas were the only dynasty that actually held influence in an area completely outside the Indian subcontinental territories like Indonesia, Malaysia and the Indo China region. Their naval power was unmatched by any other Indian dynasty until ofcourse the British came much later.

my friend mauryan wins also some part of iran see the map.

and you are right chola dynsity were one most powerful navy in past.

 

[trinity]

I asked my wife who grew in Delhi whether she read about the Chola dynasty and she said the history books at school barely mentioned about them. It is very unfortunate that many Indians are unware of this great dynasty. A BBC documentary whicb was about India covered Chola dynasty in depth while the Indian books talks only about Maurya, Gupta, Delhi Sultanate and Mughal rule.

Coz govt is slanted with North Indian bias....they keep it up....the SOuth of INdia will separate and combine with the Northeast

 

[Sashan]

Fair enough point taken.

On the point of cholas not being taught in schools in Delhi. I wonder if your wife went to a school that ran a CBSE syllabus. I recall studying of the Cholas back in school in New Delhi many many years ago.

My wife had CBSE syllabus. I said "barely" mentioned and in her exact words - we read a paragraph about Cholas. My grouse is that an empire with spectacular conquests were given just a paragraph in our history books? I remember each Mughal emperor was given a chapter my school books.

 

[MadDog]

It is sad that many Pakistanis don't know the reality...our elders like Sayed Ahmed Barelvi who rose up against the tyrannical Sikh rule...were butchered at the hands of Sikh empire.

@ Punjabi Tiger
You said here that KPK would not have been in Pakistan....my friend...look at the Durrani Empire's map again, They controlled whole of today's Pakistan and Kashmir....if Ranjit Singh wouldn't have been there...the history would have been different...the British wouldn't be ruling what is today's Pakistan..Kashmir would have been our part..lol...so lets not get over there...my point is...it is indeed a part of history of the region..but an era where Muslims suffered tremendous brutalities...a thing which was repeated in East Punjab when not a Single muslim family was allowed to live there..and they had to migrate.

Today in Pakistan's Punjab you can't be proud to be a Punjabi... because Punjabi is more of a culture than an ethnicity unlike Indian PunjabThere is a huge Kashmiri community in Lahore, Sialkot (infact the ruling part of Punjab is all Kashmiri), in the north Attock and Mianwali are Punjabi Pushtuns, in the South (Rajanpur, DG Khan districts) are all Baloch of Punjab and then there is a Saraeki belt towards the Southwest and west which goes all the way up. The culture in Punjab is liberal unlike in other parts...so every one mixes up in the local cultures while mentaining a Biradiri system. Its sad when Pakistani members here just cuz of there ethnicity said that Punjabis should be proud of it.

Tell me i am kashmiri punjabi..why the hell should i be proud of it...when my ancestors suffered at the hands of this empire. Tell me why 28 million pushtuns should be proud of it....you people are making cracks in Pakistani society by just putting Pakistani flags on your profile..and commenting about being being Punjabi !!!

 

[Sashan]

Actually it seems discussions are going around my name and my son's empire

Actually I was looking for your posting in this thread to quote your avatar for Chola conquests instead of posting a separate map.

 

[Panjabi Tiger]

It is sad that many Pakistanis don't know the reality...our elders like Sayed Ahmed Barelvi who rose up against the tyrannical Sikh rule...were butchered at the hands of Sikh empire.

@ Punjabi Tiger
You said here that KPK would not have been in Pakistan....my friend...look at the Durrani Empire's map again, They
controlled whole of today's Pakistan and Kashmir....if Ranjit Singh wouldn't have been there...the history would have been different...the British wouldn't be ruling what is today's Pakistan..Kashmir would have been our part..lol...so lets not get over there...my point is...it is indeed a part of history of the region..but an era where Muslims suffered tremendous brutalities...a thing which was repeated in East Punjab when not a Single muslim family was allowed to live there..and they had to migrate

Today in Pakistan's Punjab you can't be proud to be a Punjabi... because Punjabi is more of a culture than an ethnicity unlike Indian PunjabThere is a huge Kashmiri community in Lahore, Sialkot (infact the ruling part of Punjab is all Kashmiri), in the north Attock and Mianwali are Punjabi Pushtuns, in the South (Rajanpur, DG Khan districts) are all Baloch of Punjab and then there is a Saraeki belt towards the Southwest and west which goes all the way up. The culture in Punjab is liberal unlike in other pas...so every one mixes up in the local cultures while mentaining a Biradiri system. Its sad when Pakistani members here just cuz of there ethnicity said that Punjabis should be proud of it.

Tell me i am kashmiri punjabi..why the hell should i be proud of it...when my ancestors suffered at the hands of this empire. Tell me why 28 million pushtuns should be proud of it....you people are making cracks in Pakistani society by just putting Pakistani flags on your profile..and commenting about being being Punjabi !!!

Well listen bhai,
I'm muslim before all, like you, like all the people you quoted,
After that, i'm proud to be a pakistani
My username doesn't matter, it only means that i'm from punjab, and i still love the punjabi language.

What exactly was east afghanistan?. The durrani empire was very vast, peshawer valley was its border area, you cant label it east afghanistan. Sikhs never conqueored FATA, malakand region, southren districts of KP, pashtun areas of balochistan. They only occupied peshawer valley and hazara (which is non-pashtun region). Achievements of ranjeet singh west of indus are not that impressive.

I may be wrong about his conquests, but he conquered peshawar and khyber pass for sure.
Anyway....

 

[MadDog]

@ Punjabi Tiger... bro he might have captured Peshawar...but not only this...the Sikh Empire captured whole of Pakistan and Kashmir from Durrani Empire....without Ranjit Singh the british would not have ruled today's Pakistan....and Kashmir would have been with us....we shouldn't put light of half of the reality...we should focus on the actual truth !!!

 

[Panjabi Tiger]

@ Punjabi Tiger... bro he might have captured Peshawar...but not only this...the Sikh Empire captured whole of Pakistan and Kashmir from Durrani Empire....without Ranjit Singh the british would not have ruled today's Pakistan....and Kashmir would have been with us....we shouldn't put light of half of the reality...we should focus on the actual truth !!!

Why the british would not have ruled Pakistan ?
And you are wrong , ranjit singh never conquered sindh and balochistan

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

Well listen bhai,
I'm muslim before all, like you, like all the people you quoted,
After that, i'm proud to be a pakistani
My username doesn't matter, it only means that i'm from punjab, and i still love the punjabi language.


I may be wrong about his conquests, but he conquered peshawar and khyber pass for sure.
Anyway....

He conqueored peshawer, but not khyber pass. If he had the ability to occupy khyber pass, he could have conqueored whole afghanistan.