Lt General (Retd.) Shoaib Amjad is Arrested Today

[Shafsins]

We shouldn't be sad, we should be angry.

Agreed, just saw Sabee Kazmi's vlog where he claims they sought COAS's approval for this arrest.

 

[Olympus81]

Agreed, just saw Sabee Kazmi's vlog where he claims they sought COAS's approval for this arrest.

Bro, you think Shoaib Amjad’s arrest can be done by the PDM unilaterally.

The establishment fanboys would say it is the work of PDM and nani.

 

[Jazzbot]

It's pdm

Which was brought to power by Establishment.

So are you feeling proud, bro?

 

[Olympus81]

The judiciary will not move against an ex Lt Gen. And give in to demand for remand of 3 days?

This has PDM and Establishment partnership written all over.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Which was brought to power by Establishment.

So are you feeling proud, bro?

Pdm came to power through a constitutional procedure regardless how much they bribed people or how much US supported them in all this..at the end of the day they had more people to get VoNC passed. And bajwa had stopped supporting pti ..so establishment helped none and let things go auto pilot.. Imran is on record saying "support nahin karsaktay Thai toh rok toh sakay thai"

 

[SaadH]

Pdm came to power through a constitutional procedure regardless how much they bribed people or how much US supported them in all this..at the end of the day they had more people to get VoNC passed. And bajwa had stopped supporting pti ..so establishment helped none and let things go auto pilot.. Imran is on record saying "madad nahin karsaktay Thai toh rok toh sakay thai"

So they did have the power to stop the VoNC and still let the convicted thieves and foreign agents come into power...

 

[Dreamer.]

So they did have the power to stop the VoNC and still let the convicted thieves and foreign agents come into power...

What a ridiculous and disingenuous thing to say!

Although that's true for 99% of posts on PDF since the VoNC etc.

 

[VCheng]

So they did have the power to stop the VoNC and still let the convicted thieves and foreign agents come into power...

So you want them to interfere, but only in the direction that you prefer? That is not how things work.

 

[salarsikander]

What the public sees is when the news hits mainstream media. Stick to this narrative as its been fed already. Then set the basis for patriotism, politics, manipulation, and other related theories.

Go with the flow, as that is what the public does.

Lol it seems you are more hell-bent on defending and justifying the Mafia attitude of establishment, Asad Durrani the ISI cheif that went to India with his famous book was never such charged, In fact the base commander where Ehasnuallah ehsan was held in captivity he was never dismissed and the matter was brushed under side, so the narrtive how ex officers are approached and what circumstances lead to it, its pure bulshhit, everyone in Khaki pants are running naked now.
Apparently its Khaki pants that loves to hand out patriotism certificate

Go with the flow, as that is what the public does.

the flow is set by Khakis not the other way around and that's what they have been doing since the get go. The infamous House arrest of Fatima Jinnah by the Bhagora of Burma campaign who had installed his Son Goha ayub as minister of Industries

 

[SaadH]

So you want them to interfere, but only in the direction that you prefer? That is not how things work.

Mine's only a query, do the neutrals have the extra-constitutional powers and do they exercise them at their discretion...

What a ridiculous and disingenuous thing to say!

Although that's true for 99% of posts on PDF since the VoNC etc.

How so?

 

[Dreamer.]

What a ridiculous and disingenuous thing to say!

Although that's true for 99% of posts on PDF since the VoNC etc.

How so?

How's it ridiculous and disingenuous?..... or how's that true of 99% posts on PDF?

 

[VCheng]

Mine's only a query, do the neutrals have the extra-constitutional powers and do they exercise them at their discretion...

Ah, I understand. So if you believe them, they have stopped doing whatever they have denied doing for the last 50 years. Until they start doing it again. Or not.

 

[Signalian]

Lol it seems you are more hell-bent on defending and justifying the Mafia attitude of establishment, Asad Durrani the ISI cheif that went to India with his famous book was never such charged, In fact the base commander where Ehasnuallah ehsan was held in captivity he was never dismissed and the matter was brushed under side, so the narrtive how ex officers are approached and what circumstances lead to it, its pure bulshhit, everyone in Khaki pants are running naked now.
Apparently its Khaki pants that loves to hand out patriotism certificate


the flow is set by Khakis not the other way around and that's what they have been doing since the get go. The infamous House arrest of Fatima Jinnah by the Bhagora of Burma campaign who had installed his Son Goha ayub as minister of Industries

It’s just like the time when a photo was published in media about a person in army uniform in car outside a gate when somebody was arrested, maybe a pti leader, I don’t remember exactly and it was linked with ISI involvement while he was under arrest by police. I’m not comparing these two incidents but uniformed person working for ISI, that’s how media portrayed the picture and that’s how PDF members took it.

The reality is different if ISI gets involved while there are multiple intel agencies which can get involved in National incidents. Similarly, how a retired officer is approached, given options and then things come out in media like they have now.

Then it’s given a certain colour and used for purposes that media intends for it. You want to keep up with media, go ahead and do so, that’s what media is there for.
As for your own understanding, this isn’t the first case I have seen, I have a fair idea what has happened before the news of arrest arrived, that holds the motive of discussion and I have done that already with the ones who know what’s going on.

You can drag the thread to a 100 more pages for this topic and keep discussing based on the information you have.

 

[Dreamer.]

Mine's only a query, do the neutrals have the extra-constitutional powers and do they exercise them at their discretion...


How so?

Well, It is disingenuous because you're stating a known fact which is not in question but trying to make it seem like an argument. In reality you know full well that that's not where the actual debate stands.

Those who wield power also have discretion. It's simple. It's not really 'power' without discretion, is it? Some people seem to be demanding that those with power wield it only on these people's discretion rather than their own, which is kind of funny.

 

[Crimson Blue]

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