Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice. Did anyone need proof.

[Chinese-Dragon]

did you bother to read that these incidents are widely condemned and are criminal?
using fringe elements (10s out of 1.2billion) to make a judgement just makes you look like a tool.

My point is that India is the only country on Earth to be known primarily for its Caste System, as I already said.

These are not just random killings, they are motivated by CASTE. That is the connection to the thread topic.

 

[user1]

Today's Ashkenazi Jews have a high average mathematical and verbal IQ and an unusual cognitive profile compared to other ethnic groups, including Sephardic and Oriental Jews. (From Wikipedia).

About 4 million (that means a majority) of Israelis are Ashkenazi jews.

Everybody knows extreme discriminatory policy of israelis against the muslims of occupied territories.

If the above thesis is true a state of pluralism and equality was supposed to exist which doesn't.

The authors of above article seem to be guilty of spreading elitism which in the past has lead to eugencis which lead to death and discrimination against millions of people in the last century.

 

[Dalai Lama]

This is hilarious. An article about prejudice and two Chinese posters are kind enough to give us a live demo.

Thanks dudes!

 

[Abhishek_]

My point is that India is the only country on Earth to be known primarily for its Caste System, as I already said.

sorry can't help people with limited knowledge, no harm no foul

These are not just random killings, they are motivated by CASTE. That is the connection to the thread topic.

conservative beliefs are present in most cultures and lead to prejudice, however it is a personal choice what you choose to believe in.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Today's Ashkenazi Jews have a high average mathematical and verbal IQ and an unusual cognitive profile compared to other ethnic groups, including Sephardic and Oriental Jews. (From Wikipedia).

About 4 million (that means a majority) of Israelis are Ashkenazi jews.

Everybody knows extreme discriminatory policy of israelis against the muslims of occupied territories.

If the above thesis is true a state of pluralism and equality was supposed to exist which doesn't.

The authors of above article seem to be guilty of spreading elitism which in the past has lead to eugencis which lead to death and discrimination against millions of people in the last century.

Good post, finally one that is on topic.

However, Ashkenazi Jews make up only half of the Israeli population.

 

[livingdead]

This is hilarious. An article about prejudice and two Chinese posters are kind enough to give us a live demo.

Thanks dudes!

Well chinease just saw the word "IQ" and jumped to it like a bot. Cant blame them.

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My point is that India is the only country on Earth to be known primarily for its Caste System, as I already said.

These are not just random killings, they are motivated by CASTE. That is the connection to the thread topic.

There are ethnic/linguistic/religion based prejudices.
Why do you think only caste based pejudice shows low IQ?

Please show link between low IQ and caste system, I dont understand the connection( may be my low IQ?)

 

[Developereo]

The 'study' smacks too much of political correctness to be taken seriously. The content of the article does nothing to strengthen their case. It is the usual subjective interpretation of statistics which is the hallmark of agenda-driven 'research'.

 

[user1]

However, Ashkenazi Jews make up only half of the Israeli population.

Yes, that's slightly more than half the population of israel. That means that Ashkenazi jews are 'the numerically dominant group' in israel and probably the most influential too (due to their closer links with europe and US).

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Can you have higher IQ without going to school/college and without getting education? It is invalid to simply assign an arbitrary number to intelligence and there are many aspects of intelligence and not all of these can be quantified.

Most prejudice comes from our family and the community in which we live. If we grow up with certain ideas about other races, religions, economic classes or even other countries then we are likely to hold those prejudices until our own personal experiences or emotional maturation change them. Media and peoples around us also play their part. Prejudiced individual are unable to deal with their own insecurities and try to make others less than they are.

 

[Jiang]

Well chinease just saw the word "IQ" and jumped to it like a bot. Cant blame them.

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There are ethnic/linguistic/religion based prejudices.
Why do you think only caste based pejudice shows low IQ?

Please show link between low IQ and caste system, I dont understand the connection( may be my low IQ?)

He never claimed only caste system creates prejudice.

Caste system itself is prejudice because it assume a group of people are automatically inferior to another group of people. So all caste system are prejudice, but not all prejudice is based on caste.

And this study says people who hold prejudice tend to be less smart and are resistant to change. Seems like a pretty easy connection to make, if the study hold true.

 

[livingdead]

He never claimed only caste system creates prejudice.

Caste system itself is prejudice because it assume a group of people are automatically inferior to another group of people. So all caste system are prejudice, but not all prejudice is based on caste.

And this study says people who hold prejudice tend to be less smart and are resistant to change. Seems like a pretty easy connection to make, if the study hold true.

Caste system is practised as part of an organized religion, and majority of people in the world(people of faith) do not question their faith.
It is possible for a person to be intelligent and believe in caste system, as much as it is possible for an intelligent muslim to belive he will get 72 virgins in heaven.

I am not defending the caste system, it is wrong and it has to go, but there is no hatred or xenophobia in caste system(compared to ethnic/linguistic prejudice where people hate each other).

Otherwise there would be civil war in India, in every village, where different castes live.
For example barber is a lower caste in my ancestral village, and they have right to demand a part of our produce, after harvesting. Whether they provide the service or not is different matter.

 

[indushek]

Caste system is practised as part of an organized religion, and majority of people in the world(people of faith) do not question their faith.
It is possible for a person to be intelligent and believe in caste system, as much as it is possible for an intelligent muslim to belive he will get 72 virgins in heaven.

I am not defending the caste system, it is wrong and it has to go, but there is no hatred or xenophobia in caste system(compared to ethnic/linguistic prejudice where people hate each other).

Otherwise there would be civil war in India, in every village, where different castes live.
For example barber is a lower caste in my ancestral village, and they have right to demand a part of our produce, after harvesting. Whether they provide the service or not is different matter.

When people do not know the context of what they talk and resort to slandering others , u get these type of comments. Don't try to explain something to people when they are bound to find fault with you one way or the other.

Caste system is not at all wrong, why do you want to make a statement on the contrary?? The form in which it is being practiced is wrong. In a way it lost its usefulness long time back. Do you know the reason why caste system was brought?? there is lot of confusion and half baked data on this practice.

I will try to explain it simply, if you leave the current employment trends of doctors engineers traders etc etc what was the system used to classify the population in olden times?? their profession but they were different and relevant at that time. A priest singing hymns or doing rituals for the kingdom a person from martial family aka kshatriya working for protecting the kingdom a trader doing commerce a cobbler a blacksmith etc etc they were grouped according to their profession. The tricks of trade whatever it is was passed down the family tree. Actually it wasn't written that a brahmin's son only can become a brahmin or a kshatriya's son could only become a kshatriya, there are many instances stating otherwise. Understand that we are talking of some 1000's of years here. Ascendency was built in and degradation was also natural. A fit for nothing son cannot make his name, however as with decay of any system this too lost its usage and as it was continued without change (by those in power and who wanted to hold on to it) is looked upon as evil now. Due to its irrelevance.

Do you see any similarity to present modern socities around?? What would u say if tomorrow anybody says only the son of a politician can become a politician?? what if a rule in parliament was passed as such?? what is the significance of such a passed law. It means it is popularly accepted. Similar to the caste system and its inherent rules of engagement. Even though it is not a mandatory one an Engineer would try to make his son get into this field as he can help him, similarily a doctor a politician a businessman etc etc.

The varna system was based on profession not on birth, it was made so by people with vested interests.

Decay of any kind of system is inevitable, u saw the monarchies the greatest and the weakest crumble alike. A century or so the socialist form of government was thrown out by the country who founded it, why actually it ensured equality which everybody wanted (missing in monarchies) the democratic form is also loosing its sheen in some places and in another century or two some other form may take its place. The societal norms that were acceptable 50 years back cannot be followed today can they?? any system or norm which burdens the people will be overthrown and is inevitable.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

I am not defending the caste system, it is wrong and it has to go, but there is no hatred or xenophobia in caste system(compared to ethnic/linguistic prejudice where people hate each other).

Its not right to say that there is/was no discrimination because of castes system. Why lower castes still form a big proportion of the poor in India?

 

[indushek]

Its not right to say that there is/was no discrimination because of castes system. Why lower castes still form a big proportion of the poor in India?

If u really want to know read my above post, if u want to troll carry on.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

If u really want to know read my above post, if u want to troll carry on.

and where did i troll? I want to know why dalits/untouchable considered lower individuals ? are you saying they never faced racial discrimination/injustice because of this caste system ?


According to a report by Human Rights Watch, "Dalits and indigenous peoples (known as Scheduled Tribes or adivasis) continue to face discrimination, exclusion, and acts of communal violence. Laws and policies adopted by the Indian government provide a strong basis for protection, but are not being faithfully implemented by local authorities.

According to a UN report, approximately 110,000 cases of violent acts committed against Dalits were reported in 2005.

According to William A. Haviland, there were allegations to the contrary by a Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination in India. He quotes from the Committee's March 2007 report the following:

"Although India's national constitution of 1950 sought to abolish caste discrimination and the practice of untouchability, the caste system remains deeply entrenched in Hindu culture and is still widespread throughout southern Asia, especially in rural India. In what has been called India's "hidden apartheid", entire villages in many Indian states remain completely segregated by caste. Representing about 15 percent of India's population—or some 160 million people—the widely scattered Dalits endure near complete social isolation, humiliation, and discrimination based exclusively on their birth status. Even a Dalit's shadow is believed to pollute the upper classes. They may not cross the line dividing their part of the village from that occupied by higher castes, drink water from public wells, or visit the same temples as the higher castes. Dalit children are still often made to sit in the back of classrooms"

Caste system in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
NPR: The Caste System

A United Nations anti-racism committee has sharply criticized the Indian government for its failure to prevent discrimination based on caste.

The UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination deplored the widespread abuse perpetrated against India's so-called "untouchable" caste, also known as Dalits.

The report found more than 165 million Dalits continue to face segregation in housing, schools, and access to public services.

It also said many are forced to work in degrading conditions and are routinely abused by police and upper-caste community members who enjoy the state's protection.

Ruth Manorama, president of the National Federation of Dalit Women in India, told CBC News that discrimination against the Dalits is taking place even though the caste system is abolished in the Indian Constitution.

"Formerly, we have been called untouchables; if someone touches us, they get polluted," she said.

"They cannot fetch water from the common wells and the common taps … they are not allowed."

According to government statistics, there were 110,000 registered cases of violence, murder, rape and other atrocities committed against Dalits in 2005. Few cases ever get to trial.

In December, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh acknowledged there is still social discrimination against Dalits in many parts of the country, even after 60 years of constitutional and legal protection and state support.
UN report slams India for caste discrimination - World - CBC News