Long way to peace

[DesiGuy]

Threads like these needs to be banned...friggin useless drama.

 

[WAJsal]

Threads like these needs to be banned...friggin useless drama.

Your avatar contains a person who has been involved in the biggest drams ever.

 

[MohitV]

It should also be held in Hyderabad city, in Lucknow's Muslim areas, Old Delhi, parts of North Kerala, - in short anywhere that is currently having a Mohammedan majority.

ur nationalism is understandable....but only development can make the separatist section of JnK shut up........then referendum or no referendum.....kashmir will be with us forever...dun u understand the "sealing of border for centuries, forget the issue, develop the region" part of the sentence and the scotish example?

 

[ito]

My support will have no impact on whether it will happen or not.

As i said there should be a proper reason(Scotland for instance they had reason).

It is not the question of impact or no impact. It is more about what you think.

You only see Kashmir, because Pakistan is involved. In India there are many such movements. Any referendum any where in India will lead to balkanization of the whole country. And millions will die in resulting riots (Remember 10 million people died when India and Pakistan become different countries!)

 

[DesiGuy]

Your avatar contains a person who has been involved in the biggest drams ever.

 

[WAJsal]

(Remember 10 million people died when India and Pakistan become different countries!)

It is clear who's fault it was.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

ur nationalism is understandable....but only development can make the separatist section of JnK shut up........then ref. or no ref.....kashmir will be with us...dun u understand the "sealing of border for centuries and forget the issue" part the sentence and the scotish example?

LOL at the nationalism. It's not a piece of 'Taj' or 'Atoot Ang' for me. For me it's home. It's everything.

The separatist section will not shut up - ever. Does not matter if you make them rich as a king. You have understanding of this conflict - the raison d'etre of it all. It's easy to mistake it for a separatist movement - while in reality it is anything but.

 

[MohitV]

LOL at the nationalism. It's not a piece of 'Taj' or 'Atoot Ang' for me. For me it's home. It's everything.

The separatist section will not shut up - ever. Does not matter if you make them rich as a king. You have understanding of this conflict - the raison d'etre of it all. It's easy to mistake it for a separatist movement - while in reality it is anything but.

i know its ur home bro.......but violence and army presence is only making them more and more frustrated...m in no favor of removing the army from there...but with tat.....more development and assimilation is also needed...more education and employment....and soon this separatist movement will fade away.......look at kerala....minority over there not only well assimilated but educated and is contributing to the nation directly/indirectly ...same is being done in tibet by china...

"plan...act...wait" is what we need in this case

 

[ito]

It is clear who's fault it was.

It is not the question of whose fault is it and let us not go into that because I would say it is the fault of Muslims.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

i know its ur home bro.......but violence and army presence is only making them more and more frustrated...m in no favor of removing the army from there...but with tat.....more development and assimilation is also needed...more education and employment....and soon this separatist movement will fade away.......look at kerala....minority over there not only well assimilated but educated and is contributing to the nation directly/indirectly ...same is being done in tibet by china...

"plan...act...wait" is what we need in this case

I sincerely and honestly feel sorry to see your naivete. God bless non Muslims if you are at the helm.

 

[ito]

i know its ur home bro.......but violence and army presence is only making them more and more frustrated...m in no favor of removing the army from there...but with tat.....more development and assimilation is also needed...more education and employment....and soon this separatist movement will fade away.......look at kerala....minority over there not only well assimilated but educated and is contributing to the nation directly/indirectly ...same is being done in tibet by china...

"plan...act...wait" is what we need in this case

In my opinion any seed of separatism be it even after 100 years is nothing but problems for the country, and you may disagree but that is your opinion.

 

[MohitV]

I sincerely and honestly feel sorry to see your naivete. God bless non Muslims if you are at the helm.

so what is to be done according to you ? Keep them engaged with our forces hampering our stability ?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

so what is to be done according to you ? Keep them engaged with our forces hampering our stability ?

What is being done has yielded results.
If you want to win back the Pakistanis and the separatists, go ahead. The only way you can get total acceptance from all Islami separatists is if you make India an Islamic Country and all the citizens Muslim. Thank you.

In my opinion any seed of separatism be it even after 100 years is nothing but problems for the country, and you may disagree but that is your opinion.

If Kashmir can be left, why not the rest of the Muslim majority regions? Why is Kashmir special? Muslims in Assam had also wanted an Islamic state for themselves? Folks from Adilabad, Hyderabad also call for similar things. Why should their demands NOT be met? Why should India even exist? Surely if India ceases to exist, there will be peace - right?

The Indian sense of morality and quest for doing 'what is right' (as opposed to what should be done) is deeply sickening. But that's understandable as most Indians are Arjunas, while we should have done better with more Krishna. No wonder Gita is alien to most Indians of this generation.

 

[MohitV]

In my opinion any seed of separatism be it even after 100 years is nothing but problems for the country, and you may disagree but that is your opinion.

Are you not confident enough in your country, in its economic development ? you think even after getting these opportunities , people will want to leave our sovereignty ? @SarthakGanguly's religious perspective if he is at the "helm" will only result in an unstable kashmir . What do you want a stable kashmir or the "status quo forever" ?

What is being done has yielded results.
If you want to win back the Pakistanis and the separatists, go ahead. The only way you can get total acceptance from all Islami separatists is if you make India an Islamic Country and all the citizens Muslim. Thank you..

So what do we do ? Ethnic cleansing ? Coz BJP which is the party i support got no majority in the key region of Kashmir ? Assimilation is the only solution.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

you think even after getting these opportunities , people will want to leave our sovereignty ?

You have no understanding of the situation - do you? The demands are not economic. Those who are opposing India are doing so because India is not Muslim and because they don't have an Islamic Jamhuriyat. Follow some Kashmiri newspapers at least. If you can't read Urdu, read the English versions of Kashmir Monitor at least.

So what do we do ? Ethnic cleansing ?

No.

Recite the Shahada and join the Ummah. That's the only way you can get the 'stable' Kashmir you want.