Load shedding in Northern China

[Falconless]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1442791196514942978

My chinese brothers, any insights? Incompetence from local governments?

 

[nang2]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1442791196514942978

My chinese brothers, any insights? Incompetence from local governments?

More like divine sarcasm.

 

[Paul2]

Grid capacity maxed out, not generation. Usually annual electricity shortages come much later, when cold season starts. It was much earlier this year, despite the warm autumn.

 

[letsrock]

Grid capacity maxed out, not generation. Usually annual electricity shortages come much later, when cold season starts. It was much earlier this year, despite the warm autumn.

so china has regular annual electricity shortages ?i never knew that.

 

[nautilaceae]

Everyone pretends to be knowledgeable. The reason is explained in the vid, no one bothered to watch it.

 

[nang2]

Everyone pretends to be knowledgeable. The reason is explained in the vid, no one bothered to watch it.

All those analysis have been in Chinese media for many days. Nobody is pretending and you are honest, too, to show that you are behind.

 

[Falconless]

Grid capacity maxed out, not generation.

Ah the same problem as Pakistan?

 

[nang2]

Grid capacity maxed out, not generation. Usually annual electricity shortages come much later, when cold season starts. It was much earlier this year, despite the warm autumn.

Maybe in the south. But maxed out grid capacity doesn't seem to explain the power outage in the northeast where economical growth is probably the smallest in China and the population is shrinking.

 

[nautilaceae]

All those analysis have been in Chinese media for many days. Nobody is pretending and you are honest, too, to show that you are behind.

No analysis required, the answer is straightforward if you truly knew, or if you did watch the vid. Who're you trying to smoke? You're a bad liar. The news only came out yesterday 27th, what many days?

 

[nang2]

No analysis required, the answer is straightforward if you truly knew, or if you did watch the vid. Who're you trying to smoke? You're a bad liar.

Actually nobody knew what is going on. Many theories fly around and nothing is conclusive. One points to skyrocketing coal price. One points to maxed out grid capacity. One points to the unusual low output of hydro-power. One points to the government edict on emission reduction. Any of them can lead to power shortage. Do they all apply or some of them dominate? Since no analysis is required, you tell me the straightforward answer since you claim to truly know.

 

[nautilaceae]

Maybe in the south. But maxed out grid capacity doesn't seem to explain the power outage in the northeast where economical growth is probably the smallest in China and the population is shrinking.

It's hilarious you two pretenders are theorizing abt industry and population when the answer is totally not related.

 

[serenity]

Government is shutting coal station too quickly and the lag of new energy systems hasn't been quick enough to meet same demand and the shortages of like 1% or whatever it is will result in things like this. Emission laws and new targets. So they decommission all old coal stations and replace with nuclear and renewables but renewables not built fast enough perhaps at the same rate coal station decommissioned.

Either case these are relatively rare but nowadays a bit more common than when all coal power was used of course. Will be less frequent once energy production from renewables increase.

Even so these events are not frequent at all. I don't know about the north but central China it's happening maybe once every few months at most frequent. Just lasts a few hours. So I don't consider this a fault to be honest. It's too small an issue and now infrequent but maybe they should have kept one or two more coal stations until everything was ready. It's all laws and targets.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Coal is too expensive. Power plants are running at a loss.

 

[serenity]

Actually nobody knew what is going on. Many theories fly around and nothing is conclusive. One points to skyrocketing coal price. One points to maxed out grid capacity. One points to the unusual low output of hydro-power. One points to the government edict on emission reduction. Any of them can lead to power shortage. Do they all apply or some of them dominate? Since no analysis is required, you tell me the straightforward answer since you claim to truly know.

It could also be American cyberwarfare hahaha.

Honestly I think it's just poor planning but it's fine since it's not that frequent. If it is happening every few weeks and for hours or days each time then yes that is very poor planning.
Let's not pretend blackouts don't happen in the West. Just in Australia for last year it happened two times in my state capital city and hardly anyone lives in Australia city compared to Asian cities. Also no industry at all here just people with some lights and still blackouts.

 

[nautilaceae]

Actually nobody knew what is going on. Many theories fly around and nothing is conclusive. One points to skyrocketing coal price. One points to maxed out grid capacity. One points to the unusual low output of hydro-power. One points to the government edict on emission reduction. Any of them can lead to power shortage. Do they all apply or some of them dominate? Since no analysis is required, you tell me the straightforward answer since you claim to truly know.

Too late, you have been caught. If you truly knew, you wouldn't have gone a big round talking abt unrelated stuff, when the answer is so straightforward.

You're just trying to smoke your way around