@Panzerfaust 3,
That's the whole bloody problem ,this land belongs to us it's the land of our forefathers,land of our sacred temples ,land of sage kashyap and the place of Brahmins
Kashmiri Hindus have been forcefully converted and facing a genocide since 13th century ,most of them have been converted forcefully or accepted Islam to save their skins
And in the 80's same thing happened when Kashmiri pandits and other Hindus were forced out of kashmir,and islamisIs wanted to create a Islamic emirate how can we allow all this??
your apparently living in the pre-bc era and are very much not in touch with the harsh ground realities which are that the decedents of all those you claim were "forcefully" converted to Islam could care less about your version of history, claim that land as their own and have unanimously decided to part ways with anything even remotely hindu. you are not in a position to dictate anything to them given that its been over 30 years and your so called indian army has miserably failed to crush them. The movement for independence in kashmir has grown stronger and stronger over time with no end in sight. and wiping them off is not an option either so as long as WE are there breathing down your necks. but, you can feel free to lick your historical wounds about how it was your land and was taken away from you and blah bidy blah, no one in kashmir and elsewhere in the world is listening.
Don't be so sure buddy most Kashmiris know they are better off without pakistan, they are studying in our universities and they are being employed by international firms and the ones you see pelting stones are paid some money to do it
first off, I ain't your buddy, quite the opposite, someone like you would NOT wanna run into someone like ME in a dark alley. so much for "buddy". And secondly, I personally know kashmiris from indian held kashmir through our local Mosques who graduated from indian universities and work in the u.s. on work visas...each and every one of them have huge PAKISTAN flags pinned in their living rooms and refuse to call themselves "indians". I have yet to meet one who says that "he's from india". They ALL answer that they are from "KASHMIR", not india. And if you think that your temporary economic spike has convinced them that they are better of without Pakistan then understand that you are dead wrong because they see their Pakistani collegues who also graduated from Pakistani universities and are working in senior engineering positions comparable to their own in big companies like Oracle, SAP, Amazon, beoing, google and microsoft AND on top of that, they also see how influential the Pakistani kashmiris are in Pakistan when they see a kashmiri Chief of Army Staff Raheel Sharif and a kashmiri prime minister nawaz sharif. Never mind the crimes of lying under oath and money laundering nawaz sharif had committed, it still makes it abundantly clear to the kashmiris from iok that they are far better off in Pakistan than india sheerly because of the immense they enjoy in Pakistan. And at the "pelting stones are paid some money to do it". If that is the case then hands down, Pakistan is the richest country in the world, the world might as well start doing commerce in PKR instead of usd because we are OBVIOUSLY rich and powerful enough to by an entire population of the state of india and force them to through stones and the occupation forces. What type of bhaang have you been drinking, it is some potent crap. But feel free to believe all you want that we are "paying" them to throw stones, your obviously orbiting the rock called pluto.
Al.ost whole of Kashmiri police is made up of kashmiri youngsters ,they are eager to join paramilitary forces as well j&k light infantry
hmm, well that explains where the freedom fighters are getting their weapons now doesn't it? funny how you claim that they are oh so eager to join the police and paramilitary forces and yet, all of your dead along the loc are hindus with names that predominantly non-kashmiris. but, as I said, enjoy your orbit against the rock pluto, how does planet earth appear all the way from out there?
I mentioned ideology because it's the major cause of sepratist movement
Kashmiris had no problem with us until the 80's an it was a peaceful state with thriving trade and tourism
you are sadly mistaken (as usual) if you think they were peaceful state. your own hindu brahminist superiority complex is the key to your own demise. your bigotry and over the proceeding decades, they got to see first hand the sheer discrimination they received from each and every corner of the brahmin dominated india and finally, the pressure of hatred and disgust towards the hinduistic indian culture that was building up finally exploded and the lava spewed has only increased. and I'm not saying this, kashmiris themselves are saying this, I've heard it with my own two ears from the kashmiris that I know. The hatred in their hearts is so bad that even at work, they refuse to speak in the urdu to an indian and would stick with english. When asked if they speak hindi, they respond with they speak either URDU or koshuur. But they have no problem in speaking urdu with me.
I am sorry but the truth is far from it .the rest of the world also considers Pakistan a major terrorist hub ,you need to update your knowledge
Just look as the recent events
China, middle east and Russia have given you a shut up call on your Pakistani terrorism rant. america is crooked but is painted into a corner thanks to the supply route and gives you a cold shoulder as well. That is most of the influential world right there. Oh wait, if you are talking about two bit banana republics like bhutan, tanzania and afghanistan as "most" of the world then I'd get my money back from your geography teacher if I was you...
Truth is that you guys basically invented taliban to gain control over Afghanistan and to limit influence of other countries
you can't "invent" a phenomenon like the taliban. they were already there and finally took the form of an organization. but then again, what else could you expect from a nation where the reality of the world is created in the studios of bollywood.
After 9/11 USA forced you guys to join their campaign,you people basically fought a war for them
Its a saying in India that pilotless aircrafts and brainless countries are fighting for USA in Afghanistan
The moment you started operations against Taliban they turned against you and started biting you back
USA organised DAILY drone raids inside your airspace ,they basically used you ,you guys lost your integrity, economy and whatnot
are you even familiar what what "fight is a war" is all about? Because for you to make a claim that WE are somehow fighting america's war means that we are actually inside afghanistan. After all, that IS where the war is now isn't it? check your door darshan samachar and make sure. so yes, the u.s. did force us into it, but given the miserable position the u.s. is in today in afghanistan dictates that it was the best forced decision Pakistan has ever made. And the ones who supposedly bit us back was called the ttp, not the mainstream afghan taliban. Can you even SPELL "logic"? Because we crushed the ttp and their cronies like ants, they are no where to be found inside Pakistan WHILE the afghan taliban are not only growing stronger, they are in fact, winning the war against the u.s./nato/ana. How is that possible if WE were fighting america's war and if the ttp was biting us? what type of hash are you smoking?
Tell me what was the human and economic loss during operations in Taliban infested regions?
that is a very irrelevant question since every military expedition carries its cost. But given that soon after crushing the taliban, we bounced back to an economic growth rate of 6% and projected to break 7% shows that whatever losses we incurred by conducting operations against the ttp were a small price to pay which WE as a NATION gladly would pay. does the indian nation have that resolve? Given the widespread insurgencies india is infested with going from kashmir to nagaland to punjab to the maoists and nexalites, the picture of the indian people's resolves looks very bleak.