Russia looks for China's support in Europe: Putin and Xi will discuss 'aggressive rhetoric' by US&NATO as Putin's troops stage huge live-fire drills

[Titanium100]

Chinese entered the Korean War when the UN forces were up to the Yalu River. It was a now or never moment. The Chinese might intervene if Russia is serious pushed back deep into its territory, but even then it would demand huge concessions from the Russians on technology and only do it if it feared the Russian state would fall to western alliance.

It depends how far maybe nearby Mongolia if russia was pushed that far back it could perhaps trigger red lines

 

[Shotgunner51]

china will have massive nuclear arsenal in a few years time

We already have massive nuclear arsenal since decades ago, the Americans knew that we had a stockpile of 3.3~5 megaton strategic/thermonuclear warheads carried by DF-5A even back in the 1990's, total firepower of which already enough to annihilate US. What's interesting is that they "assume" we add zero MIRVed warheads, zero tactical nukes and zero ERW over the past 30 years, how nice.

 

[FuturePAF]

It depends how far maybe nearby Mongolia if russia was pushed that far back it could perhaps trigger red lines

Not that far, perhaps if they got close to Moscow, which might cause the government to collapse, the Chinese would send reinforcements.

 

[Titanium100]

Not that far, perhaps if they got close to Moscow, which might cause the government to collapse, the Chinese would send reinforcements.

Doesn't seem practical tho from a conventional sense but will react if their red lines were somehow breached just like something similar to exactly like the battle of lake chingjjan but this time it will occur in the lake of Baikal..

If NATO were to pass that Lake they would ethablish borders with China hence creating a buffer zone there would be a realistic playbook outcome something similar to the battle of lake chingijan and stopping their advances there

 

[Battlion25]

Chinese entered the Korean War when the UN forces were up to the Yalu River. It was a now or never moment. The Chinese might intervene if Russia is serious pushed back deep into its territory, but even then it would demand huge concessions from the Russians on technology and only do it if it feared the Russian state would fall to western alliance.

Doesn't seem practical tho from a conventional sense but will react if their red lines were somehow breached just like something similar to exactly like the battle of lake chingjjan but this time it will occur in the lake of Baikal..

If NATO were to pass that Lake they would ethablish borders with China hence creating a buffer zone there would be a realistic playbook outcome something similar to the battle of lake chingijan and stopping their advances there

Closer to the chinese border seems like a re-play that could happen the other one not so much

 

[Titanium100]

Closer to the chinese border seems like a re-play that could happen the other one not so much

The world can be unpredictable sometimes

 

[nahtanbob]

Lol can't even beat taliban with rusty aks u will run like little girls when u see chinese soldiers. don't worry china will have massive nuclear arsenal in a few years time but we all know americans are cowards who back down when they don't have bigger firepower.

you are assuming ruskies even allow you anywhere on their soil

 

[REhorror]

Really hope nothing happens.

 

[Stranagor]

Russia looks for China's support in Europe: Putin and Xi will discuss 'aggressive rhetoric' by US and NATO as Vladimir's troops stage huge live-fire drills near Ukraine

• Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping will discuss tensions in Europe during video call on Wednesday
• Moscow staged ground battle exercises at Kadamovsky firing range in Rostov region, just 30 miles from Ukraine
• Video footage shows more than 1,000 tank troops taking part in live-firing drills
• US intelligence estimates as many as 175,000 Russian troops could launch attack on Ukraine early next year

By RACHAEL BUNYAN and WILL STEWART FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 09:23 GMT, 14 December 2021 | UPDATED: 10:06 GMT, 14 December 2021


Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping will discuss tensions in Europe and 'aggressive' U.S. and NATO rhetoric during a video call on Wednesday, the Kremlin said.

The announcement of the meeting comes after Moscow staged huge live-firing drills with more than 1,000 tank troops in a region close to the Ukraine border as Putin continues to stoke fears the Kremlin will invade Kiev within weeks.

The latest show of strength by Putin comes amid high tension between Moscow and the West, with NATO countries such as Britain and France warning that 'serious consequences' will follow if Russia invades Ukraine.

Putin has denied Russia planned to seize territory from Ukraine and accused Britain and its allies of 'demonising' his country.

Russia is now looking for China's support in Europe as Putin and Xi Jinping will discuss their 'cooperation priorities' of the future during talks on Wednesday, the Kremlin said.

The leaders will also 'exchange views on current global and regional issues', the Kremlin added, without expanding further.

Russia staged ground battle exercises some 30 miles from the frontier, a move which will do nothing to calm fears over his intentions.

Video footage and pictures show the drills held by the country's southern military district at Kadamovsky firing range in Rostov region.

Russia staged ground battle exercises some 30 miles from the frontier, a move which will do nothing to calm fears over his intentions. Video footage and pictures show the drills held by the country's southern military district at Kadamovsky firing range in Rostov region



On Monday, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson warned Putin in a phone call of his 'deep concern' about the Russian military build-up close to Ukraine, and that 'serious consequences' will follow in the event of invasion.

US intelligence officials estimate that as many as 175,000 Russian troops could launch an attack early next year, with troops, tanks and artillery already massing on the Ukrainian border.

Tensions continue to soar between Moscow and the West over Ukraine, as Russia said on Tuesday it was monitoring a French warship near its borders in the Black Sea.

In the drills, soldiers performed fire training in the field using AK-74M, RPG-7V and AGS-17 Plamya hand and automatic grenade launchers, said TV Zvezda, run by the Russian defence ministry.


More than 100 crews of BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles equipped with 100-mm guns performed exercises of live firing from short stops and in motion at distances up to 1,000 metres, according to the Russians.

Motorised riflemen completed shooting exercises using AK-74M assault rifles, RPG-7V hand and automatic grenade launchers and AGS-17 Plamya grenade launchers.

They 'mastered the skills of camouflaging shooting positions'.

The range is some 30 miles from the border with the pro-Moscow rebel-held Luhansk region of Ukraine.

The latest drills involving 1,000-plus troops followed a five-day exercise when 500 tanks crews performed winter live firing from T-72B3 and T-90A tanks.

The earlier drills were carried out at multiple locations across the southern military district but included Rostov and also Crimea, annexed by Russia from Ukraine in 2014.


'The servicemen also fired large-calibre anti-aircraft machine guns,' said an official account.

'The crews drilled hitting targets imitating a moving tank, an antitank grenade launcher and a recoilless gun at distances ranging between 300 and 2,000 metres.'

A spokesman said: 'The drivers practiced driving the tanks in rough terrain, negotiating natural obstacles, including anti tank ditches and barriers.

'The tank crew combat training program focuses on offensive and defensive tactics both in the daytime and at night.'

These are the latest in a series of military exercises staged by Russia.

It comes as Russia's Black Sea fleet forces said on Tuesday they 'began to monitor' the actions of the French navy's multi-mission frigate Auvergne after it entered the Black Sea, the defence ministry said in a statement carried by Russian news agencies.

The Russian defence ministry did not offer further details.

Tensions between Moscow and the West are on the rise over Russian troops movements near ex-Soviet Ukraine.

Last Thursday, Russia scrambled three of its jets to escort five French and US military aircraft over the Black Sea and away from its border, the military said.

That incident followed Russia dispatching planes to escort three French military flying near its borders in the Black Sea a day earlier.

Western countries have issued repeated warnings to Moscow against invading their ally Ukraine.

Last week, France warned Russia of 'strategic and massive consequences' if Moscow attacked Ukraine.

Moscow accuses NATO member countries including France of provoking tensions in the Black Sea and says it is concerned over its security.

The drills come after the G7 on Sunday warned Russia of 'massive' consequences if it invades Ukraine.

Foreign ministers from the world's richest nations held a two-day meeting in Liverpool, northwest England, seeking to present a strong, united front against global threats.

Britain, which hands over the G7 presidency to Germany next year, portrayed the two-day conference as a chance to stand up to authoritarianism around the world.

In addition to talks over Iran's nuclear ambitions, Russia's build-up of troops on the border with Ukraine dominated talks, given fears of a possible invasion.

UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss said there was 'very much a united voice... that there will be massive consequences for Russia in the case of an incursion into Ukraine'.

In the final communique, ministers unanimously backed Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty, praising President Volodymyr Zelensky for Kiev's 'posture of restraint'.

All options, including wide-ranging political and economic sanctions, are on the table if Russia ignores a diplomatic solution, officials indicated.

A senior US State Department official on Saturday said 'a large number of democratic countries' were ready to join the G7 nations of Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United States in taking action.

US President Joe Biden last week held a virtual summit with his Russian counterpart Putin to voice Western concerns.

He is sending his top diplomat for Europe and Eurasian affairs to Kiev and Moscow next week for follow-up talks with senior officials.

Pope Francis also called for the situation to be 'resolved through serious international dialogue and not with weapons', following the Angelus prayer at St Peter's Square.

Germany's new Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock, speaking later on Sunday, warned that The Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline from Russia would not be allowed to operate in the event of any new 'escalation' in Ukraine, under an agreement between Berlin and Washington.

In response to the G7 summit, Putin last night denied Russia planned to seize Ukraine and accused Britain and its allies of 'demonising' his country.

The president's official spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, said the accusations by Britain and its allies were 'once more being made with the aim of further demonising Russia'.

Putin calls for 'immediate' talks with NATO and US over security

Vladimir Putin told Finnish President Sauli Niinisto that he wants to 'immediately launch negotiations' with US and NATO over security guarantees as tensions mount of Ukraine.

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That's a normal strategic partner dialogue and consultation. The US should not worry so long as they do not do something more stupid (they are already doing lots of stupid things but both Putin and Xi can live with stupid)

 

[Brainsucker]

Doesn't seem practical tho from a conventional sense but will react if their red lines were somehow breached just like something similar to exactly like the battle of lake chingjjan but this time it will occur in the lake of Baikal..

If NATO were to pass that Lake they would ethablish borders with China hence creating a buffer zone there would be a realistic playbook outcome something similar to the battle of lake chingijan and stopping their advances there

Are you serious? Russia has massive nuclear arsenal. When NATO forces step in Russia territory, There is no guarantee that Russia would "save" their nuclear weapons for another occasion. I'm sure that the whole European Countries will engulfed with nuclear radio-active shortly after the war started.

What NATO will do is to limit the conflict inside Ukraine. Even with that, they won't officially do it. Mostly will send their soldier's as "Volunteer" to protect Ukraine. They will do everything to avoid Nuclear Holocaust with Russia. It will only become another Proxy War like in the old cold war era.

few tactical nukes will neutralize hordes of chinese soldiers

we are assuming chinese army is built to fight in Europe

Then why Russia needs Chinese 50 divisions when they can use few "Strategic" nukes to flattened Europe?

 

[Maula Jatt]

Honestly China is not about that life
They won't enter any conflict, anywhere unless directly attacked

Mao was the last of his kind

 

[tower9]

I don't think China is willing to deploy but you never know if they make such arrangements... They will go into panic meltdown if China was to just roll in 50 divisions randomly.. The media hysteria would be so ridiculous people will be selling their houses and some even jumping on ships fleeing the continent all together

Mongol Horde 2.0. Euro latte liberals better be running.

Chinese entered the Korean War when the UN forces were up to the Yalu River. It was a now or never moment. The Chinese might intervene if Russia is serious pushed back deep into its territory, but even then it would demand huge concessions from the Russians on technology and only do it if it feared the Russian state would fall to western alliance.

Russia can easily handle Europe so that won't happen.

 

[Battlion25]

Mongol Horde 2.0. Euro latte liberals better be running.

Won't lie to you China has that aura about them that says boy you have no idea when I roll on you what will happen to you aka ''getting up in that azz savagely''

 

[tower9]

Won't lie to you China has that aura about them that says boy you have no idea when I roll on you what will happen to you aka ''getting up in that azz savagely''

It's a powerful, disciplined and serious country. Speaks softly but will **** you up in a patient, strategic manner. That's why China is dangerous.

 

[aziqbal]

It's a powerful, disciplined and serious country. Speaks softly but will **** you up in a patient, strategic manner. That's why China is dangerous.

China dn Russia both cannot match UK in terms of capability stop dreaming in la la land