LGBT (Transgender) : All legalized through parliament

[Thinker3]

I am discussing the topic and you are discussing me. Don't blame me when they delete your off topic posts.

They won't. It is very relevant for those who can understand.

 

[313ghazi]

I'd like to see the whole bill before I pass judgement. I think people are jumping the gun possibly based on a few tweets. The stuff in the tweets seems very open to interpretation.

Gender is a biological fact, not a feeling.

Iran has an interesting approach next door - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_Iran

 

[MH.Yang]

It’s odd seeing that coming from a Chinese man. I thought they were against religion, and Islam particularly?

Chinese people are far away from religion, not against religion. Chinese law protects religious freedom. China has 180 million Buddhists and Taoists, 30 million Muslims and 30 million Christians.

Of course, if you say especially devout believers, it is almost zero.

For thousands of years, Confucianism has influenced Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and Vietnamese. The core of Confucianism is 中庸. It means not to be extreme, not too left or too right. The mood should be calm and things should not be too intense. Therefore, under this thought, there are few crazy believers.

The Confucian attitude towards religion: to respect their gods, but stay away from them<敬鬼神而远之. This can explain the piety of the whole East Asia to any religion, whether he has faith or not.


子曰：敬鬼神而远之，子不语怪力乱神。
------<论语>

Confucius said that we should respect God (because it may be true) and keep a distance from God (because it may be false).
Confucius said that Confucian disciples should not take the initiative to talk about God. Because Confucian disciples should insist on thinking by themselves. If the people give up thinking and sum up all problems as God, then the people will be controlled by God.
-----<Analects of Confucius>

 

[Hawkridge]

Only in Pakistan dumbass politicians pass bills withou proper knowledge of terminology.
The bill was meant for Intersexuals but someone (maybe with ulterior motives) coined the term Transgender for the Khwajasira community and now whole laws are passed on it.

It is passed for ease of that community but now degenerates will benefit from it. Such a farce.

 

[PakSarZameen47]

Can this bill be reversed? Any protests ?

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

Mubarak ho, now @Tameem @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE and @muhammadhafeezmalik can all marry each other.

Only down side is, they cannot make little patwaries - which actually is a blessing in disguise.

Such characters must not be allowed to live in human societies. They are the biggest threat to human liberties. No society should tolerate existence of any such psychopaths in any situation.

Can this bill be reversed? Any protests ?

Why this bill/act should be reversed??

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

JI's Senator Mushtaq proposed these amendments which were rejected by PTI government:

PTI's Minister for Humen Rights opined like this in Senate:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1571869039416180739

I personally support JI's stance on this bill.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Can this bill be reversed? Any protests ?

Will be reversed when Billo marries a woman.
Hint: Never

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

یہ چار سینیٹرز جنہوں نے سینیٹ میں ٹرانس جینڈر بل پیش کیا تھا دو ن لیگ سے ایک پیپلز پارٹی سے اور ایک پی ٹی آئی سے تعلق ہے کوئ بتا سکتا ہے کہ ان تینوں پارٹی کے ممبران نے ٹرانس جینڈر قوانین پر کیوں آپس کے اختلاف ختم کرکے ایک ہوگئے؟ سب گورکھ دھندا ہے


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کیونکہ کسی کو اس بات پر کوئی اعتراض نہیں ہے کہ کسی خواجہ سرا کو تعلیم ، صحت ، روزگار ، وراثت، ووٹ اور سفر جیسے بنیادی حقوق سے محروم کیا جانے سے روکا جائے

 

[JackTheRipper]

It was transgender bill, not LGBT.

is it ok?

He was also from diesel group.

 

[Verve]

 

[Areesh]

کیونکہ کسی کو اس بات پر کوئی اعتراض نہیں ہے کہ کسی خواجہ سرا کو تعلیم ، صحت ، روزگار ، وراثت، ووٹ اور سفر جیسے بنیادی حقوق سے محروم کیا جانے سے روکا جائے

Tum jaisai suwar k gosht khanai walai ko to is law ko support karna hi tha

Noting surprising

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

Tum jaisai suwar k gosht khanai walai ko to is law ko support karna hi tha

Noting surprising

https://twitter.com/x/status/1572231224529223684

 

[HydraChess]

Transgender/Intersex laws and bills should only apply to people born that why and it should be physical in appearance.

Transgender can be simply due to mental thing as well.. like some men who dress as women.
If Pakistan accepts this fluid gender identity then a man can claim to be a woman and marry another man. So LGBT marriages should be possible that way.

Pakistan is pretty progressive to allow all this. I live in Canada but I find this Gay and Lesbian stuff uncomfortable.

 

[AZMwi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1572231224529223684

محترم خواجہ سرا اس کو کہتے ہیں جو پیدائشی ہو۔ جو بعد میں اپنی جنسی ہوس بجھانے کے لیے یا پیسے کمانے کےلیے یا دماغی خناس کی وجہ سے اپنا جنس تبدیل کرواتے ہیں ان کو کسی بھی مہذب معاشرے میں ہم جنس پرست بولا جاتا ہے - اس بل کے تحت کسی بھی مرد یا عورت کو یہ اختیار مل گیا ہے کہ وہ کسی میڈیکل بورڈ کے سامنے پیش ہوئے بغیر نادرا میں صرف ایک درخواست دے کر اپنا جنس تبدیل کرواسکتا / کرواسکتی ہے- اس شق کا غلط استعمال کرکے کوئی بھی مرد یا عورت لڑکوں یا لژکیوں کے تعلیمی اداروں میں داخلہ لے سکتا / سکتی ہے- اپنے ہم جنس سے جنسی تعلقات قائم کرسکتا / کرسکتی ہے- کوئی بھی مرد عورت بن کر عورتوں کے اور کوئی بھی عورت مرد بن کر ان کے کوٹے میں نوکری حاصل کرسکتا / کرسکتی ہے- اور اسلامی وراثتی نظام کا غلط استعمال کرسکتا / کرسکتی ہے
تمام ذی شعور پاکستانی اور مسلمان ، خواجہ سرأوں سے ہمدردی رکھتے ہیں اور ان کے جائز حقوق کےلئے آواز بھی اٹھاتے ہیں لیکن خواجہ سرأوں کی آڑ میں اس کالے قانون کی بھرپور مزمت کرتے ہیں