Lessons in hate and violence-undercover in a mainstream UK Muslim School

[temujin]

YouTube - EDL - Dispatches - Lessons in Hate and Violence (Part 1) (14-02-2011)

YouTube - Dispatches: Lessons in Hate and Violence - Part 2

YouTube - Dispatches: Lessons in Hate and Violence - Part 3

YouTube - Dispatches: Lessons in Hate and Violence - Part 4

Note the derogatory references made to Hindus and people of other faiths throughout the piece. And to think that this is being done right under the noses of the likes of Ofsted (who even commended the school for promoting religious harmony and community cohesion!) in a school that is in all probability funded by the state.

Given this is the kind of 'education' many Muslim children are receiving even in the West, there is little wonder why many contributors on here appear to hold extremely warped and bigoted views on people from other faiths and ethnicities.

The bits where the Mullah thrashes the kids would be familiar to anyone who has read 'Children of the Dust'

 

[Spitfighter]

Honestly, there's no point in creating threads like these. You'll either be called an 'Islamophobe' or some apologist will regurgitate the same old story about how it's simply an isolated incident that doesn't represent the whole community.

Frankly speaking, we shouldn't care. It's not going to hurt us one bit (in the long run). When it comes to Indians, we simply don't have this problem because of the kind of people who immigrate (highly skilled professionals) to the west. Let the segregation continue, things will sort themselves out eventually.

 

[Developereo]

Not excusing what is being done in these schools (despicable, probably Wahhabi crap), but other religions don't need to vilify Muslims because the mainstream media does the job for them.

There is nothing worse than a self-righteous bigot.

 

[Avatar]

Honestly, there's no point in creating threads like these. You'll either be called an 'Islamophobe' or some apologist will regurgitate the same old story about how it's simply an isolated incident that doesn't represent the whole community.

Frankly speaking, we shouldn't care. It's not going to hurt us one bit (in the long run). When it comes to Indians, we simply don't have this problem because of the kind of people who immigrate (highly skilled professionals) to the west. Let the segregation continue, things will sort themselves out eventually.

The issue is of relevance to us since we Indians also constitute of a good number of Muslims who are nothing like the Muslims bought up in these schools, and they have to suffer for the wrong doings of the so called western Muslims just because there happen to be some parties involved who propagate Islamic brotherhood and such, as and when they see fit and completely ignore it when it doesn't suit the cause.

 

[Spitfighter]

Not excusing what is being done in these schools (despicable, probably Wahhabi crap), but other religions don't need to vilify Muslims because the mainstream media does the job for them.

It almost sounds like you think Muslims are being 'victimized' in some fashion.

I would really love to see some stats about the ethnicity of the 'students' and their 'professors'.

 

[aakash_2410]

Well, this is the daily dose they grow up on!

But, I've gotta confess pakistanis here in the UK are much more liberal and tolerable about one's religion that pakistanis back home! Here we all used the same term to describe ourselves! 'British Asian'! Cuz to a white guy we're all brown!

 

[Avatar]

Not excusing what is being done in these schools (despicable, probably Wahhabi crap), but other religions don't need to vilify Muslims because the mainstream media does the job for them.

There is nothing worse than a self-righteous bigot.

What do you mean ?

I haven't seen the videos just now so I might have lost the flow of things. I remember seeing a similar series few months ago. If you're talking about spitfighter, then mind you that he's not referring to any other religion in his post. We're not trying to promote our own "religion" by pointing out what is wrong. As a part of the global community it is completely unacceptable that we pretend to be blind and dont house an opinion just because we're not Muslims.

 

[Spitfighter]

The issue is of relevance to us since we Indians also constitute of a good number of Muslims who are nothing like the Muslims bought up in these schools, and they have to suffer for the wrong doings of the so called western Muslims just because there happen to be some parties involved who propagate Islamic brotherhood and such, as and when they see fit and completely ignore it when it doesn't suit the cause.

I'm pretty sure anyone investigating these folks will realize rather quickly that Indian Muslims are largely absent from such 'schools'.

 

[Developereo]

It almost sounds like you think Muslims are being 'victimized' in some fashion.

I am saying that there is a lot of hate mongering going on on all sides, but Western operatives are a thousand times more sophisticated and media-savvy than the Islamists. Western hate is couched under scholarly treatises, terrorism expert reports, and selective media coverage.

I am not excusing either side; simply pointing out the selective coverage to further the media's agenda.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

It almost sounds like you think Muslims are being 'victimized' in some fashion.

Do you think that Muslims are not being victimized in some fashion?

Rising levels of Islamophobia across the West, would seem to suggest that there is a certain degree of victimization going on.

 

[Developereo]

An example of Western hate mongering

 

[Roybot]

Yeah apparently its some modern form of crusade going on against Muslims.

 

[Roybot]

Do you think that Muslims are not being victimized in some fashion?

Rising levels of Islamophobia across the West, would seem to suggest that there is a certain degree of victimization going on.

You haven't had any suicide bombings in China yet, if you did you would think differently.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Yeah apparently its some modern form of crusade going on against Muslims.

Not so overt, or even intentional.

Look at the four recent wars started in the Middle East...

Iraq war, Afghanistan war, Gaza war, and Lebanon war.

All these happened in the past decade, and all of them against Muslim majority nations.

Coupled with rising waves of Islamophobia across the world, there is clearly a problem.

 

[Sliver]

amazing how these people went to another country/living there and while enjoying the way of life over there, are using derogatory language against the same society!! Why does this happen? If you dont like the street, the country, please go back. We like our countries to be free and open to everyone. If you are against this, please DO NOT COME.