Leaving PDF

[Shantanu_Left]

indians want s PDF forum of what it was like when I joined back in 2015. Where SEVERE anti-Pakistani, anti-Muslim racism is allowed and EVERYONE believes in indian lies and propaganda without question, including Pakistani members. The fact that PDF has started combating and exposing all of this has irked a lot of indians. Especially in light of 27/02/2019 and the Galwan Valley incident of 15/06/2020.

I must counter this. Despite being one of the left-leaning posters that the OP dislikes so much, I supported his right to participate here. Basically the site Admins and moderators want a DIVERSITY of opinions in this forum, that is why they invite us Indians to participate. If they don't want us here, they will just let us know politely and we will leave.

It's not YOUR place to decide whether or not we should participate in this forum. Let that sink in.

We are all equal members here as per the Forum Rules.

(p.s. - Besides, we are on YOUR side. You all should be embracing us as your brothers. But sure, you can agree to disagree. )

 

[Shantanu_Left]

Thank you and please don't come back with another I.D....

Have some shame and please get lost....

He won't. I can guarantee it about that one user, at least.

And I personally love that song. Thanks for bringing it here.

 

[Musings]

Nothing wrong for a Pakistani forum to be Pakistani centric.
We need to respect their sensitivities.

Sort of like having a home crowd advantage at a cricket or football match on home turf.
You need to put in extra effort playing in an away game.

Losers better stick to forums on home turf only.
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Sane post and respected. Most Indian forums wouldn’t tolerate Pakistanis and moderate Indians - I think this forum has got the balance right.
I am open to criticism of Pakistan - hell it has plenty faults - however attempting to soft troll snigger put down - promote yourself as a superior race is IMO unacceptable

 

[LimaCharlie]

Let us rejoice, this is a grest victory for us, we must ckeanse all our social platforms one by one and start combating filth and propaganda with the truth. The social media warfare has just begun.

Sorry for the typos, my keyboard is unbelievably small

 

[jamahir]

My final comment is to @jamahir. In these 9 years you are the person with whom I have interacted the most on this forum. I will never be able to convince you to get rid of your lefty loonie ideas but just try, try once to come out of your utopia and experience the real world.

Well, I will say that with you were most of my ideological arguments and I could sharpen my arguments by constant dialogue with you.

Sorry to see you go,
Jai Hind.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Have seen quite a lot of Indian members leaving and also choosing to reduce activity, including very sane members who have been here as long as I have. This is concerning to some of us, even if others here are celebrating it. I’ve seen what happened to one or two Indian forums when we Pakistanis left in disgust, little activity followed and some could not sustain themselves.

 

[namefield_empty]

I just came back from a ban and saw this pathetic excuse of a thread

If i remember correctly, we were busting some usual propaganda trolls when we were banned. Getting banned here, or receiving negative warnings should be considered as an badge of honor. Anyway, now that the decision's been made it is for the best. I think that i will follow suit soon.

JAI HIND. VANDE MATARAM.

 

[Shantanu_Left]

Well, I will say that with you were most of my ideological arguments and I could sharpen my arguments by constant dialogue with you.

Sorry to see you go,
Jai Hind.

I would like to see similar "farewells" of @Chhatrapati @dharmi and a few other users. I am not holding my breath though. They're more likely to outlive me in this forum.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Why the need for a leaving thread? Are you such a sad bastard that you need some purpose in life, that too from a PAKISTANI forum? Go out and get a life.

Indians are a scourge on the internet, look at how they are systematically destroying comments sections on youtube, twitter, instagram and every other site these locusts flock to. You leaving is a positive for PDF. Don't preach morality bullshit on a PAKISTANI forum when you have a picture of muslim and Pakistani hater in your avatar. You fuckin dunce.

If anyone wants to leave, log off and don't come back. And take your Gay Hind with you. Cunt.

This! Only this types of posters is allowed here. No respect, no moral, no sense, no discussion. Only bad mouth and abusing.
@LeGenD

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

@Soumitra

So, sad!

I even liked your posts sometimes.... a divergent voice is always welcome... at least you can frame your thinking unlike Indian trolls...

Anyhow, all the best!

Mangus

 

[crankthatskunk]

I have been a member of this forum since 2011. These 9 years I have taken part in countless debates and interactions. Previously this was a great forum that allowed even Indian members to express their views. There were some restrictions but overall you could have a good debate.

Lately though this forum has become a forum not of debate but conformity and India bashing. Only Pakistani views and the views of Leftist and Islamist Indians are being allowed. (I don't interact much in other sub forums like China, Middle East, US, Europe etc so don't know about them). It is like an echo-chamber.

Pakistanis and Pseudo-Pakistanis (false flaggers like @HalfMoon) are allowed to open India bashing threads left right and center. No thread mildly critical of Pakistan is allowed.

The Hindu religion is bashed in almost every thread.

The "Sanghi" voices are banned because we defend India. You are not allowed to call a terrorist as a terrorist. You are not allowed to bust Pakistani lies and propaganda. The list of all "acceptable" sources are all left leaning even if they publish blatant untruths. It is like a boxing match where you have to fight with one hand tied behind your back while leftists and Islamists from your country (@Shantanu_Left @Joe Shearer @xeuss @The_Showstopper etc) bash you from behind while Pakistanis do so from the front. Atleast Pakistanis are the enemy and the referee (mods) is with them so you can expect it from them. The back stabbing fifth coloumists from India are the real shame.

I just came back from a ban and saw this pathetic excuse of a thread
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/some-duties-of-indian-members-of-this-forum.675580/page-44

Basically it is a cop out. The Pakistanis ask these leftists and Islamists to jump and they say how high. These people have zero self worth. They think bending over backwards for Pakistanis make them "civilized".

My final comment is to @jamahir. In these 9 years you are the person with whom I have interacted the most on this forum. I will never be able to convince you to get rid of your lefty loonie ideas but just try, try once to come out of your utopia and experience the real world.

Bharat Mata Ki Jai.
Jai Hind, Jai Hind Ki Sena.
Vande Mataram.​

If you want to leave it is down to you. But I will respond to some of your comments.

1- It is a Pakistani forum so you can expect that Pakistani point of view, its issues would be discussed here. Why are you surprised or complaining!! I am sure, the Indians wouldn't give Pakistanis an iota of chance in their forums and platforms. We see how they are trying to muzzle "Facebook", "Twitter" and "Youtube".

Coming from Indians mouths is nothing but hypocrisy on grand scale.

2- You said, no thread mildly criticising Pakistan is allowed. Are you blind!! Almost all of my threads are criticising Pakistanis. Get real man. Criticising Pakistanis and their practices is different from criticising Pakistan. I love Pakistan.

3- Yeah, it is allowed to call terrorists as terrorists. Let see if you are a hypocrite or not. Would you call the "Terrorist Modi" as Terrorist!!

Or Terrorist India as a Terrorist country!!. What better proof than Kulbashan of Indian's terrorism in its neighbouring country! Look at TTP. Pakistan has plenty of evidence of Indians and Afghans running their training camps in Afghanistan border areas. Funding them and sending them to Pakistan.
Yes, it is allowed to call India a terrorist country, rightly so. You really think the malicious and fake propaganda of Indians can fool anyone!! Are you not getting India and Indians are getting expose around the world, for the vile, racist and terrorist human beings , what they are.

4- In the end , you were allowed to post "Jai Hind Ki Sena and Vande Mataram" in your post. That shows two things,
A- You are a typical Indian. Praising Indian Army which murders and rapes innocent Kashmiris, on a Pakistani Forum would go down as a treat!!
B- It also shows your state of mind, you are a typical racist and terrorist Indian, we all know what Vande Mataram stands for.

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[The BrOkEn HeArT]

I would like to see similar "farewells" of @Chhatrapati @dharmi and a few other users. I am not holding my breath though. They're more likely to outlive me in this forum.

You already loose the battle of discussion, when you wish the ban of your opponent.

 

[Shantanu_Left]

Have seen quite a lot of Indian members leaving and also choosing to reduce activity, including very sane members who have been here as long as I have. This is concerning to some of us, even if others here are celebrating it. I’ve seen what happened to one or two Indian forums when we Pakistanis left in disgust, little activity followed and some could not sustain themselves.

Don't worry. Some of us Indians aren't leaving unless the site Admins, moderators and owners tell us to!

@Joe Shearer @xeuss

You already loose the battle of discussion, when you wish the ban of your opponent.

Is it a violation of forum rules to make such wishes? I don't think so

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

If you want to leave it is down to you. But I will respond to some of your comments.

1- It is a Pakistani forum so you can expect that Pakistani point of view, its issues would be discussed here. Why are you surprised or complaining!! I am sure, the Indians wouldn't give Pakistanis an iota of chance in their forums and platforms. We see how they are trying to muzzle "Facebook", "Twitter" and "Youtube".

Coming from Indians mouths is nothing but hypocrisy on grand scale.

2- You said, no thread mildly criticising Pakistan is allowed. Are you blind!! Almost all of my threads are criticising Pakistanis. Get real man. Criticising Pakistanis and their practices is different from criticising Pakistan. I love Pakistan.

3- Yeah, it is allowed to call terrorists as terrorists. Let see if you are a hypocrite or not. Would you call the "Terrorist Modi" as Terrorist!!

Or Terrorist India as a Terrorist country!!. What better proof than Kulbashan of Indian's terrorism in its neighbouring country! Look at TTP. Pakistan has plenty of evidence of Indians and Afghans running their training camps in Afghanistan border areas. Funding them and sending them to Pakistan.
Yes, it is allowed to call India a terrorist country, rightly so. You really think the malicious and fake propaganda of Indians can fool anyone!! Are you not getting India and Indians are getting expose around the world, for the vile, racist and terrorist human beings , what they are.

4- In the end , you were allowed to post "Jai Hind Ki Sena and Vande Mataram" in your post. That shows two things,
A- You are a typical Indian. Praising Indian Army which murders and rapes innocent Kashmiris, on a Pakistani Forum would go down as a treat!!
B- It also shows your state of mind, you are a typical racist and terrorist Indian, we all know what Vande Mataram stands for.

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What do you expects from a Indian citizen, to say "Unganda army zindabad?"
Everyone love his/her own country. This shows your one thing, you can't even tolerate Indians loving their country and Army.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I must counter this. Despite being one of the left-leaning posters that the OP dislikes so much, I supported his right to participate here. Basically the site Admins and moderators want a DIVERSITY of opinions in this forum, that is why they invite us Indians to participate. If they don't want us here, they will just let us know politely and we will leave.

It's not YOUR place to decide whether or not we should participate in this forum. Let that sink in.

We are all equal members here as per the Forum Rules.

(p.s. - Besides, we are on YOUR side. You all should be embracing us as your brothers. But sure, you can agree to disagree. )

Just as I am sure that Pakistanis have equal rights on indian forums............

So where are the invite forms that PDF sends out to indians?................


PS Diversity of opinions doesn't mean in believing in indian FAKE NEWS or propaganda of the following calibre.........:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/558725/

https://thenextweb.com/security/201...ites-caught-pushing-anti-pakistan-propaganda/

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-india-50749764