LCA Navy Gets Ready For Take-Off, Successfully Completes High Speed Taxi Ru

[IND151]

awesome news

i hope more N LCA are ordered than declared

 

[Sergi]

awesome news

i hope more N LCA are ordered than declared

They will be coming soon after it took to skies

 

[Archie]

Well Indian Navy has increased the initial order for NLCA to 9 , according to AK Antony
These 9 aircrafts will not really be carrier capable since they will be based on LCA MK1 and use GE F404 engine with 84KN Thrust
What these aircrafts will do is test the strengthened Airframes and Landing gears for Short Takeoff and landing ala SAAB Gripen , and also check the anti Sea water coating and dedicated Navalised avionics and radar package and integration with Anti ship missiles like Kh31 , which is also operated by Mig29K

If the Navy is satisfied with this aircraft , then they will order additional 36 NLCA of MK2 Standard with 98KN thrust engine and AESA Radar
if the Navy is not satisfied , then they will order additional 13 NLCA MK1 based airframes with 84 KN Thrust and Pulse Doppler Radar , these combined with 9 previous airframes will replace Land Based Jaguar IM in anti ship role

 

[Sergi]

Well Indian Navy has increased the initial order for NLCA to 9 , according to AK Antony
These 9 aircrafts will not really be carrier capable since they will be based on LCA MK1 and use GE F404 engine with 84KN Thrust
What these aircrafts will do is test the strengthened Airframes and Landing gears for Short Takeoff and landing ala SAAB Gripen , and also check the anti Sea water coating and dedicated Navalised avionics and radar package and integration with Anti ship missiles like Kh31 , which is also operated by Mig29K

If the Navy is satisfied with this aircraft , then they will order additional 36 NLCA of MK2 Standard with 98KN thrust engine and AESA Radar
if the Navy is not satisfied , then they will order additional 13 NLCA MK1 based airframes with 84 KN Thrust and Pulse Doppler Radar , these combined with 9 previous airframes will replace Land Based Jaguar IM in anti ship role

If they aren't carrier based what was the issue with landing gear ??? If it's Just LCA mark 1 then what's they going to test anyway ???
I didn't know NLCA Mark 2 was planned. Can you give more info or some link.
You seem to have good knowledge on subject. It would be better if post here.

 

[tvsram1992]

after the take off we can shut the mouths of few idiots who keep on trolling always that we hadnt achieved anything better in LCA .

 

[Archie]

If they aren't carrier based what was the issue with landing gear ??? If it's Just LCA mark 1 then what's they going to test anyway ???
I didn't know NLCA Mark 2 was planned. Can you give more info or some link.
You seem to have good knowledge on subject. It would be better if post here.

India is planning to obtain nine additional examples of the navalised variant of the Aerospace Development Agency (ADA)-Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) Tejas light combat aircraft.

India is planning to obtain nine additional examples of the navalised variant of the Aerospace Development Agency (ADA)-Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) Tejas light combat aircraft.

A Tejas programme official confirmed media reports that India's Defence Acquisition Council has approved the deal. The order will include both single and twin-seat aircraft, but the official did not specify a delivery timeframe.

The news comes weeks after The Hindu newspapar quoted India's chief of naval staff, Admiral Verma, as saying that the ADA overemphasised on the air force version of the Tejas, which caused the launch of the naval variant to fall behind.

Despite being unveiled in July 2010, the naval version has yet to embark on its maiden flight, which was initially planned for late 2010.

In mid-2011, while the aircraft was underoing engine and ground tests, a programme official said it will fly in September or October 2011, but this target was also not met.

Like the Tejas Mk I that will be used by the air force, the current example of the navalised Tejas is powered by a single General Electric F404 engine.

However, the original plans for the navalised variant called for the more powerful F414. In addition, the F414 is planned for the Tejas Mk II, a programme that industry sources say is three-to-four years away from its first flight.

The nine additional navalised examples are likely to be powered by the F404, although it is unclear if this is powerful enough for naval operations.

Early examples of the navalised Tejas are likely to be employed at a shore-based testing facility set up at Hansa naval air station near Goa.

Defence News - India To Order Nine Naval Tejas Aircraft

If they aren't carrier based what was the issue with landing gear ??? If it's Just LCA mark 1 then what's they going to test anyway ???
I didn't know NLCA Mark 2 was planned. Can you give more info or some link.
You seem to have good knowledge on subject. It would be better if post here.

Like i said
these aircrafts will test the strengthened Airframes and Landing gears for Short Takeoff and landing ala SAAB Gripen , and also check the anti Sea water coating and dedicated Navalised avionics and radar package and integration with Anti ship missiles like Kh31 , which is also operated by Mig29K

The Strengthened Landing gear, Anti corrosive coating , Naval avionics , integration of Kh31 Anti ship Missiles are essential part of NLCA and need to be tested in operations before being applied on carrier based fighters .
Also without LCA MK2 , we dont know how NLCA will perform abroad carrier since present version lacks adequate thrust to takeoff with 3500kg of weapons load

 

[Tshering22]

you have already m29K. for AC is two engine M29K much more safer than N LCA.（ is NLCA much cheaper than 29K？）
and is the over weight problem already solved?

Actually that is what is being sorted out. ADA is a bit secretive about this part of Tejas being developed as not much info has been leaked out. Don't know why but guess there are a lot of planned additions.

 

[Sergi]

India is planning to obtain nine additional examples of the navalised variant of the Aerospace Development Agency (ADA)-Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) Tejas light combat aircraft.

India is planning to obtain nine additional examples of the navalised variant of the Aerospace Development Agency (ADA)-Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) Tejas light combat aircraft.

A Tejas programme official confirmed media reports that India's Defence Acquisition Council has approved the deal. The order will include both single and twin-seat aircraft, but the official did not specify a delivery timeframe.

The news comes weeks after The Hindu newspapar quoted India's chief of naval staff, Admiral Verma, as saying that the ADA overemphasised on the air force version of the Tejas, which caused the launch of the naval variant to fall behind.

Despite being unveiled in July 2010, the naval version has yet to embark on its maiden flight, which was initially planned for late 2010.

In mid-2011, while the aircraft was underoing engine and ground tests, a programme official said it will fly in September or October 2011, but this target was also not met.

Like the Tejas Mk I that will be used by the air force, the current example of the navalised Tejas is powered by a single General Electric F404 engine.

However, the original plans for the navalised variant called for the more powerful F414. In addition, the F414 is planned for the Tejas Mk II, a programme that industry sources say is three-to-four years away from its first flight.

The nine additional navalised examples are likely to be powered by the F404, although it is unclear if this is powerful enough for naval operations.

Early examples of the navalised Tejas are likely to be employed at a shore-based testing facility set up at Hansa naval air station near Goa.

Defence News - India To Order Nine Naval Tejas Aircraft



Like i said
these aircrafts will test the strengthened Airframes and Landing gears for Short Takeoff and landing ala SAAB Gripen , and also check the anti Sea water coating and dedicated Navalised avionics and radar package and integration with Anti ship missiles like Kh31 , which is also operated by Mig29K

The Strengthened Landing gear, Anti corrosive coating , Naval avionics , integration of Kh31 Anti ship Missiles are essential part of NLCA and need to be tested in operations before being applied on carrier based fighters .
Also without LCA MK2 , we dont know how NLCA will perform abroad carrier since present version lacks adequate thrust to takeoff with 3500kg of weapons load

I read a artical about NLCA specification when inducted. It's said it will have F414. It even describs the weapon payload and radar cross section and compare it with Mig29K
I am trying to find it. Will post if get it.

 

[sancho]

What these aircrafts will do is test the strengthened Airframes and Landing gears for Short Takeoff and landing ala SAAB Gripen , and also check the anti Sea water coating and dedicated Navalised avionics and radar package and integration with Anti ship missiles like Kh31 , which is also operated by Mig29K

If the Navy is satisfied with this aircraft , then they will order additional 36 NLCA of MK2 Standard with 98KN thrust engine and AESA Radar
if the Navy is not satisfied , then they will order additional 13 NLCA MK1 based airframes with 84 KN Thrust and Pulse Doppler Radar , these combined with 9 previous airframes will replace Land Based Jaguar IM in anti ship role

That's complete nonsense! N-LCA no matter in which version has nothing to do with Gripen, because the one is a carrier fighter, the other not. The Sea Gripen would be similar but even that needs further airframe and gear strengthening.
IN in general is not satisfied with N-LCA, they already stated that they just went with it, because they want to improve Indian defence industry, to get some experience in developing naval fighters and not because N-LCA would be a good fighter.
N-LCAs based on MK1 will mainly be tech demonstrators used for test flights and training, they will never be used for any operational service, be it on carriers or from shore bases. If IN inducts N-LCA it will only be MK2 versions, because that is the only version that fullfils their requirements, not only in terms of thrust, but also in terms of fuel capacity.
Btw, IAF operates the Jaguar IMs an not IN, so N-LCAs will never replace those Jags, IAF can do it with their own LCAs too, if they wanted but why should they when they get Rafales and MKIs?

 

[Gessler]

Hey, how about naming this as NLCA SeaTejas?

If you ask me SeaTejas will be a more catchy name than NLCA

 

[sancho]

Its a Carrier Fighter. 6 is a good number provided it is only for IAC 1.

Who says it's only for IAC1? It would be even more logical to use it in higher numbers than Mig 29K from INS Vikramaditya, because it is smaller and this carrier has less space for fighters.

 

[Sergi]

That's complete nonsense! N-LCA no matter in which version has nothing to do with Gripen, because the one is a carrier fighter, the other not. The Sea Gripen would be similar but even that needs further airframe and gear strengthening.
IN in general is not satisfied with N-LCA, they already stated that they just went with it, because they want to improve Indian defence industry, to get some experience in developing naval fighters and not because N-LCA would be a good fighter.
N-LCAs based on MK1 will mainly be tech demonstrators used for test flights and training, they will never be used for any operational service, be it on carriers or from shore bases. If IN inducts N-LCA it will only be MK2 versions, because that is the only version that fullfils their requirements, not only in terms of thrust, but also in terms of fuel capacity.
Btw, IAF operates the Jaguar IMs an not IN, so N-LCAs will never replace those Jags, IAF can do it with their own LCAs too, if they wanted but why should they when they get Rafales and MKIs?

What do you think of LCA/NLCA mark 2 ???
I read some article on LCA but look like they were all fan boy stuff. Disappointed

 

[sancho]

What do you think of LCA/NLCA mark 2 ???

It still will be a limited capable fighter for carrier operations. The increased internal fuel tanks will reduce the need of carrying external tanks, but mainly with A2A configs only. Any use of heavier loads will require more fuel again to take off and to have a useful range. The Mig is the better of 2 limited capable fighters and IN might find a good mix of fighters for each carrier and a mix of strategies for each roles.

 

[ayesha.a]

The NLCAs in operational service are going to be the same standard as LCA mk2. The first six (or nine, im not sure) are going to be in MK1 standards, as proof of concept in navalising the LCA. After that, they will make NLCAs in the same standard as the MK2 LCAs of the IAF, but navalised of course.

I really wish they would order them in equal numbers as the mig 29Ks. After all, they are going to be better in all respects than the harriers the navy operates currently. During peace time especially, they can do most of the sorties, bringing down operational costs and saving the airframe life of the migs. Besides, wouldnt they be as good as the migs for CAP? Not to mention the fillip to local industry, and perhaps cost saving for LCA production. Lets not forget that on the high seas of the arabian sea, a good distance away from any coast, no navy would have fighters that can take on the LCA (because no navy is expected to field fighters there, other than the IN).

 

[Sergi]

The NLCAs in operational service are going to be the same standard as LCA mk2. The first six (or nine, im not sure) are going to be in MK1 standards, as proof of concept in navalising the LCA. After that, they will make NLCAs in the same standard as the MK2 LCAs of the IAF, but navalised of course.

I really wish they would order them in equal numbers as the mig 29Ks. After all, they are going to be better in all respects than the harriers the navy operates currently. During peace time especially, they can do most of the sorties, bringing down operational costs and saving the airframe life of the migs. Besides, wouldnt they be as good as the migs for CAP? Not to mention the fillip to local industry, and perhaps cost saving for LCA production. Lets not forget that on the high seas of the arabian sea, a good distance away from any coast, no navy would have fighters that can take on the LCA (because no navy is expected to field fighters there, other than the IN).

I thinks the purpose of Jets on AC is to engage the hostile airforce. AC is base for jets so that they can go into hostile airspace. If we are way from shores and out of reach of enemy jets then obviously enemy is also out of range of our jets. Then what's the point of having AC ???