Lavrov bashed BBC reporter

[SecularNationalist]

Please give me break.. As if Russia cares about the “death and destruction” the US has been involved in the last 20 years. Russia cares about Russia and russian influence - nothing else. The only reason Russia oppose Ukraine leaning westward, is because it reduces Russias so called sphere of influence and abillity to control a weaker neighboring country.

I said BBC shouldnt give him a platform spreading his false narratives. He represents an authoritarian state, and uses every single opportunity to accuse the West of being exactly what he represents. No need to spread more russian disinformation.

Every country thinks about it's regional security and influence. Russia has all the rights to secure its borders. At least Russia didn't kill people thousands of miles away from it's borders like the US.
This war and bloodshed could have been avoided if the US and NATO had no expansionary ambitions.

 

[MeFishToo]

Every country thinks about it's regional security and influence. Russia has all the rights to secure its borders. At least Russia didn't kill people thousands of miles away from it's borders like the US.
This war and bloodshed could have been avoided if the US and NATO had no expansionary ambitions.

You might aswell argue Ukraine was entitled to invade Russia.

Fact is Russian territory was and is completely safe. Nobody is going to attack and invade a nuclear armed country.
This russian narrative about safety is just an excuse to conquer and annex more territory from contries trying to avoid being defacto vasal states of Russia. This is Putin trying to make his authoritarion state a global power.

And Lavrov is nothing but his lying and deceiving international spindoctor. The west should deny him the meens to deliver his disinformation.

 

[Madni Bappa]

Pakistani simping for Russia is cringe AF

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Biden Takes Tumble During Bike Ride in Delaware (Published 2022)

The president did not need medical attention after he fell off his bike at a state park near his vacation home in Rehoboth Beach, according to the White House.

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The country and the world has gone to shit since you preposterous, hypocritical libturds came to power

Biden Takes Tumble During Bike Ride in Delaware (Published 2022)

The president did not need medical attention after he fell off his bike at a state park near his vacation home in Rehoboth Beach, according to the White House.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Viet]

Why do youbsay he is a liar? Do you have any credible evidence to prove that he is a liar?

PS I am not pro-russian or anything like that.

Credible evidence? Is that a joke? Even the dumbest person in Madagascar jungle knows he is not hunting Nazi in Ukraine. He is hunting something else.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Credible evidence? Is that a joke? Even the dumbest person in Madagascar jungle knows he is not hunting Nazi in Ukraine. He is hunting something else.

Can you post a link to some credible evidence that confirms he is hunting something else?

 

[nope]

LOL more tears for me to collect.

For once I do believe that I am on the right side of history. That is to see you guys getting whacked real good.

What would you say about your friend India? They are enjoying Russian oil/gas for a nickel and taking you for a ride LOL

when did india become my friend you truly live in the delusional world

Mate US went for the Holy pilgrimage to the Iraq, Libya, Syria and no wonder still stealing oil from the Syria. More then a million killed in the Iraq alone and also in the Afghanistan separately and still dodgy media is telling us Russians are the worse. Were those US invasions were hospitals building exercise i wonder?

so Russia did not kill Muslims in Chechnya and Syria causing the largest humanitarian disaster in modern history or kill Muslim historically? I'm not defending the USA and its actions but defending Russia is crazy

 

[nope]

Biden Takes Tumble During Bike Ride in Delaware (Published 2022)

The president did not need medical attention after he fell off his bike at a state park near his vacation home in Rehoboth Beach, according to the White House.

www.nytimes.com

The country and the world has gone to shit since you preposterous, hypocritical libturds came to power

Yes we should take advice from Pakistanis how run a stable prosperous nation LMAO

and Biden is not a Liberal he can F**k off for all i care

you want me post videos from politicians from the clown show you call a country's all biden did was fall

 

[kingQamaR]

Big wake up call to the Baltic States Finland Sweden Norway Denmark who thought they were living close to a country with a moral compass similar to their own! Instead they know that a Russian invasion is just a tank journey away

 

[Apollon]

We have a saying in urdu which roughly translates to "a impotent male cat snatching a pole"
Means when you are frustrated and helpless you act like a lowlife to release your frustration.
Trying to hurt someones daughter who is on a legal visa and has nothing to do with russia war on ukraine or has no official position inside russian government speaks a lot about the high moral grounds you europeans have.


And what charity work the west and US has done in the past 20 years? The whole world can see the death and destruction you brought in the past 20 years.
Thats why russia is behaving this way,no more talks this time only a strong military punch on your ugly faces. Thats the only language you understand.

All russian elites children lived in Europe and USA. Parents usually want best for their children. Care to explain why for russias elites Russia obviously is not good enough for their kids?


And btw we corrected something. Russians like Lawrow send their kids here while praising Russia. We simply shipped their kids back to mother russia. Visas can be taken back. When you are a guest your host has the right to tell you to leave.


We shipped them all home. Putins daughters who lived in Germany. Medvedev son was kicked out USA. Peskovs daughter had to leave Rome. They now can all enjoy Mother Russia.


And btw i consider my face quite attractive. And the one getting punched is Russia. Losing tenthousands of soldiers, get humilated defeats, losing generals and flagships. All the while we have not even stepped a single boot on the ground.

 

[Apollon]

Soviet Union and Nazism just in the last 100 years. Read some history before making tall claims. And we won't starve either, thanks for the concern.

We crushed Nazism in a world war, Hitler had to shot a bullet into his head. We let entire world burn to destroy that tyrant and starved india to fullfill this. With Sovietunion we showed zero concessions until it collapses and did wars all over the planet.


Maybe you read some history. Its your people who starve, not us. And we let the world burn again if its needed to crush Russia.


You already do starve.

Apocalypse now? The alarming effects of the global food crisis

The Bank of England governor warned last week of ‘apocalyptic’ food price rises. Yet war in Ukraine, climate change and inflation are already taking their toll all over the world

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I want live free and if you have to die for that, its a price im willing to pay.

Can you post a link to some credible evidence that confirms he is hunting something else?

His own speeches. Putin wants an eurasian empire from Lissabon to Vladivostok. Its that simple. Russia is incredible weak. Only 140 million people, no economy, no tech. Russia would play zero role in a multipolar world. Europe has 600 million people, is an economic superpower and leader in technology. Putin believes a russian dominated Europe would be a worldpower. His only problem is...Europe sees Russia as disgusting shithole and for obvious reasons sees no intention to join his freakshow. Russia must be crushed and completly humiliated in Ukraine. Only then can we have security

 

[Apollon]

You didn't America and Russia defeated Nazis. Pakistan played a much bigger role in the collapse of Soviet Union then any European country. Your country of residence was half occupied while we were fighting Soviet Union in Afghanistan and handed Soviet Union its most significant defeat.

There are more rich and thriving people in Pakistan than the whole population of Greece. Times have changed, the whole world sees current Europe as nothing but a big American vassal. You are at best an American protectorate and at worst an American sacrifice like Ukraine, you are not free at all. Forget about my life you can't even decide your own fate without daddy America, forget about a nuclear powered Pakistan. Even our brothers in Turkey play with you good, think about your islands rather than Pakistan. We are in a different league than you.

Russia sided with the Nazis. Forgot Hitler Stalin pact?


Different League? Pakistan is one of poorest countries on earth, food shortage, energy shortage and abhorrent poverty, slums and living standards so low, that its absolute crazy that exists in 2022.


Dude with all due respect you are on food aid.

 

[jamahir]

"We are not interested in the eyes of the west , we are not shameful of showing who we are"
Powerful words from Russian foreign minister to put all EU , NATO scums in their place. Means if you mess with us , you will get what you asked for , we are Russians not Iraq or Afghanistan.

Mr. Sergei said it right. And Mr. BBC who was all so concerned about Russia been seen as criminal should cast his eye on his own former prime minister Tony B'liar who along with chum George Bush jr were designated war criminals in 2011 by the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission and are wanted on international arrest warrant.

Pakistanis like most of the developing countries in the world have an interest in seeing the decline of the blackmail based world order led by the US. And Russia is challenging that. We are rooting for the underdog. We don't want to live in a world where America is free to destroy countries just by sanctioning them, or bomb countries with no repercussion. If Russia is able to subdue Europe, it will be a great blow to American hegemony and pave way for a multi-polar world. Hopefully the inflation and lack of gas in winter will knock some sense into the European slaves of the Empire.

Indeed.

I think you are misunderstanding, the US state dept issuing warnings or interfering in the internal affairs of another state is not necessarily in correlation with it needing said state in its geopolitical calculus, thats behavior that the US carries out in dozens of states. The difference between say its approach to India in comparison to pakistan or even Turkey in comparison to Pakistan is that in terms of geopolitics, there is something the US needs from those states, namely in the case of India, using it as a bulwark against china or in the case of Turkey, it being strategically located and with regards to needing it to counter russia in the caucasus, central asia and the black sea region.

What you need to ask is what does the US need Pakistan for in the post soviet era, the conditions for the initial partnership(countering the soviet union and its hegemony in central asia, and preventing eventual soviet access to the indo pacific, via afghanistan, preventing a land route from potentially forming between soviet afghanistan and Soviet aligned India) don't exist anymore, Russian influence is not the same in central asia, if anything Chinese influence is bigger there, but Pakistan isn't going to align itself against China, for obvious reasons(Pakistan is aligned with China against India, and relies on it for support). And with the end of the US involvement in the when did india become my friend you truly live in the delusional worldAfghan War, and its disengagement from there in a recalibration of geopolitical strategy, there is even less necessity of Pakistan.

Soviet-aligned India ? India was never truly on the side of the USSR and then Russia, right from the participation of Indian army alongside NATO in Korea War where India and NATO were aligned against USSR, North Korea and China; then to Iraq invasion of 2003 when the Indian government and army were ready at any minute to send 17,000 soldiers to Iraq to fight alongside USA, Britain, Poland, Australia etc; then to the Libyan Jamahiriya invasion of 2011 which Russia opposed and where Indian air force officials happily watched gun camera vids of British Typhoon jets bombarding Gaddafi's Bal al Azizia compound; then to Russian operation in Ukraine where "Russia's traditional fraand Indian establishment" didn't even vote in support of Russia in UNO's NATO-passed resolutions against Russia, let alone Indian military going to Ukraine in support of Russia. And just a few days after the Ukraine operation started the State Bank of India ( government-managed ) forbade any transactions through its systems for any NATO / EU sanctioned Russians. While there many Indians like me who support Russia the Indian establishment and most of the media doesn't support Russia at present and ideologically. Indian society in general being a 3000-year-old extremely Capitalist oppressive and unjust culture will be of course aligned with NATO.

when did india become my friend you truly live in the delusional world

I think @Dalit means the Western bloc and he's true. As example please read above.

Russia is a shithole and we will never bow to them. I have different option for you, Russia,,,whose economy is smaller than Italy will collapse. I may remind you that Europe never bowed to dictatorships. We rather let the whole world burn. Its your people who will starve, not us.

Putin says EU is an American colony.

Lavrov has spend 20 years lying and deflecting. Nothing comming from him can be taken at face value. He is using every opportunity to spread false narratives, and the BBC shouldnt give him a platform to do it.

I used to listen to BBC World Service radio on my shortwave two-in-one for years and enjoyed it despite its occasional propaganda against anti-NATO countries but when in 2010 my radio started breaking down more than I could keep it working I listened to the station on internet until the beginning of 2011 when BBC's propaganda against Libyan Jamahiriya and Syria became too obscene I competely stopped listening.

You didn't America and Russia defeated Nazis. Pakistan played a much bigger role in the collapse of Soviet Union then any European country. Your country of residence was half occupied while we were fighting Soviet Union in Afghanistan and handed Soviet Union its most significant defeat.

"Mard-e-Momin" Zia ul Haq, then dictator / oppressor of Pakistan, didn't defeat the USSR. That is a mythology spread by Pakistani nationalists. Zia was a NATO proxy because he was a Tableegh Jamaati and in NATO's war against the Communist governance in Afghanistan and the USSR Zia came of help to NATO by becoming the conduit to transfer thousands of regressives and psychopaths from all over the world going into Afghanistan to destroy the progressive governance there but his own position in Pakistan wasn't permanent. Neighboring India's prime minister Rajiv Gandhi would have helped Zia to get back into power in case Zia was overthrown by Pakistani Communists and Socialists and this because Rajiv didn't want USSR's influence to spread from Afghanistan to next Pakistan which would have propably enthused Indian Communists to attempt to takeover Indian governance which would have led to civil war with the Western-bloc-oriented Indian establishment fighting against the Indian Communists who would have been helped by the USSR and by the Afghan and Pakistani leftists. This is from my 2015 thread :

Rajiv Gandhi regarded Pakistan as 'strategic buffer' against USSR: CIA document

Sep 01, 2015

Washington: Contradicting perceived proximity to the Soviet Union in the Cold War era, India under the then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi had toyed with the idea of supporting anti-Russian civilian groups in Pakistan if the then Zia regime was thrown out by Moscow, a recent declassified CIA document has claimed.

According to CIA documents of the era, which were recently declassified and posted on the CIA website under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), which is similar to India's Right to Information Act, Gandhi wanted non-interference from both the United States and the then USSR. "Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi would like both the USSR and the United States to end their involvement in South Asia," noted the 31-page CIA document titled 'The Soviet Presence in Afghanistan: Implications for the Regional Powers and the US'.

While taking note of the historic India-USSR relationship in particular in the defence field, the CIA report of April 1985 noted that India is likely to become increasingly concerned about long-range Soviet intentions in the region and could find itself moving towards confrontation with the Soviets if Pakistan was effectively neutralised.

"New Delhi regards Pakistan as a strategic buffer against the USSR and would oppose Moscow's effort to dominate Pakistan. New Delhi and Moscow would find themselves supporting rival factions within Pakistan," said the report, according to which Moscow had plans to change the regime in Pakistan and extend its influence beyond Afghanistan. In that case, the report said, "The Indians would seek to significantly reduce their dependence on Moscow and reorder their strategic relationship with the USSR, the United States and China if they perceived Soviet ambitions as extending beyond Afghanistan toward the subcontinent."

According to the report, the Soviets tried to heighten India's suspicion about Pakistan's intentions and its security relationship with the US in order to foster Indo-Pakistani tensions and heighten New Delhi’s dependence on Moscow. "In Soviet view, conflict between India and Pakistan would work toward solving Moscow's Afghan problem and would give Moscow opportunities to strengthen its position in South Asia," the report said.

"If (Gen) Zia (Ul Haq) regime were to fall, the Indians might try to prevent Soviet attempt to dominate Pakistan by supporting rival Pakistani political factions, Soviet military moves against an already neutralised Pakistan could even result in military confrontation with India," it added.

Six months later when Gandhi was planning to meet General Zia on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly meeting in New York, the CIA analyzed that the then Indian Prime Minister, despite his strong public views on Pakistan's nuclear weapons program, was unlikely to push him hard on it. "Gandhi is unlikely to push Zia hard about the Pakistani nuclear program, although he probably will at least mention his continuing concern," noted the top secret CIA document dated October 21, 1985.

"For his part, Zia is also likely to propose ideas on ways to improve the bilateral relationship. He may suggest regular high-level diplomatic talks in addition to the formal Joint Commission sessions that focuses on trade, communications and cultural exchanges," the report said. "Zia may also solicit Gandhi's views on whether as the Pakistanis believe the Soviets are becoming serious about a negotiated settlement in Afghanistan," it said.

 

[Apollon]

Mr. Sergei said it right. And Mr. BBC who was all so concerned about Russia been seen as criminal should cast his eye on his own former prime minister Tony B'liar who along with chum George Bush jr were designated war criminals in 2011 by the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission and are wanted on international arrest warrant.



Indeed.



Soviet-aligned India ? India was never truly on the side of the USSR and then Russia, right from the participation of Indian army alongside NATO in Korea War where India and NATO were aligned against USSR, North Korea and China; then to Iraq invasion of 2003 when the Indian government and army were ready at any minute to send 17,000 soldiers to Iraq to fight alongside USA, Britain, Poland, Australia etc; then to the Libyan Jamahiriya invasion of 2011 which Russia opposed and where Indian air force officials happily watched gun camera vids of British Typhoon jets bombarding Gaddafi's Bal al Azizia compound; then to Russian operation in Ukraine where "Russia's traditional fraand Indian establishment" didn't even vote in support of Russia in UNO's NATO-passed resolutions against Russia, let alone Indian military going to Ukraine in support of Russia. And just a few days after the Ukraine operation started the State Bank of India ( government-managed ) forbade any transactions through its systems for any NATO / EU sanctioned Russians. While there many Indians like me who support Russia the Indian establishment and most of the media doesn't support Russia at present and ideologically. Indian society in general being a 3000-year-old extremely Capitalist oppressive and unjust culture will be of course aligned with NATO.



I think @Dalit means the Western bloc and he's true. As example please read above.



Putin says EU is an American colony.



I used to listen to BBC World Service radio on my shortwave two-in-one for years and enjoyed it despite its occasional propaganda against anti-NATO countries but when in 2010 my radio started breaking down more than I could keep it working I listened to the station on internet until the beginning of 2011 when BBC's propaganda against Libyan Jamahiriya and Syria became too obscene I competely stopped listening.



"Mard-e-Momin" Zia ul Haq, then dictator / oppressor of Pakistan, didn't defeat the USSR. That is a mythology spread by Pakistani nationalists. Zia was a NATO proxy because he was a Tableegh Jamaati and in NATO's war against the Communist governance in Afghanistan and the USSR Zia came of help to NATO by becoming the conduit to transfer thousands of regressives and psychopaths from all over the world going into Afghanistan to destroy the progressive governance there but his own position in Pakistan wasn't permanent. Neighboring India's prime minister Rajiv Gandhi would have helped Zia to get back into power in case Zia was overthrown by Pakistani Communists and Socialists and this because Rajiv didn't want USSR's influence to spread from Afghanistan to next Pakistan which would have propably enthused Indian Communists to attempt to takeover Indian goverance which would have led to civil war with the Western-bloc-oriented Indian establishment fighting against the Indian Communists who would have been helped by the USSR and by the Afghan and Pakistani leftists. This is from my 2015 thread :

I prefer to be a american colony than being a poor shithole. Biggest chain is poverty, people who are poor have no freedom.

Also Putins daughters prefered to live in Europe and not shithole russia. Wonder why?

So far nobody of you guys coukd answer why russian elites children all lived in europe, but no european elites kids live in russia.

 

[kingQamaR]

Lavrov the man who educated his kid in English public schools, universities and now houses them in Knightsbridge... Obviously Russia isn't good enough

 

[MeFishToo]

Unfortunate that many Europeans are still thinking like this even after a war. You can't belittle Russian concerns for security and then act surprised when Russia takes matter in its own hand. Russia had been warning about this for a very long time, you kept ignoring and are now trying to portray Russia and Putin as evil. Well only westerns will be fooled by this propaganda. Rest of the world is just happy that American hegemony is breaking. And of course America will sacrifice Europe in the process.

After a war, like the one in Ukraine Russia started? The russian narrative was a giant strawman meant to decive the russian population. Exactly what is your excuse being blinded by russian propaganda? Let me guess: my enemys enemy is my friend, so lets belive whatever Russia claims.