Lavrov bashed BBC reporter

[hyperman]

India is far away from Russia these days in comparison to what it used to be.

India increased its share of Russian oil imports, its currently India's second largest Oil Supplier, Lavrov made a point to visit New Delhi after the Ukrainian invasion started.

Don't act like some foreign policy expert here you ignorant loser.

Ironically its you who doesn't have a good reading of geopolitics, just b/c you hope for some sort of some sort of new alignment of Pakistan and Russia vs US and India, doesn't make it reality. The indians have been quite keen on playing their balancing game, where they give just enough support to Russia keep it in their camp(oil sales and defense purchases), while at the same time not getting too invested in it, to where it starts to potentially bring consequences from Washington, they know in the long run that Washington needs India in its geopolitical strategy in the Asia Pacific against China, and that as long as they don't become too invested in Russia, the cost benefit analysis for washinton would point to washington deciding that whatever punishment it doles out would not give benefit in terms of the costs of spoiling the great game in the asia pacific vis a vis China. Washington on the other hand would have no issue in Punishing Pakistan, b/c quite frankly it has no current geopolitical need for Pakistan, the cold war dynamics of containing the Soviet Union and preventing a land bridge towards the Pacific is long game, as is the afghan situation with the withdrawal.

I would recommend you try to read up on the matter, so that you don't make a fool of yourself with your projections on these supposed Russia Pakistan axis ties regarding India. Would also recommend not cursing or lobbing insulting, they just come across as childish, and don't really elevate any of the points you raised.

GOP supports India waiver on Russian weapons purchase

www.politico.com

U.S. senators file bill to exempt India from sanctions over Russia deal, citing China

Three Republican U.S. senators said on Friday they filed legislation to exempt India from sanctions for purchasing a Russian S400 missile defense system, citing the importance of working with allies to stand up against China.

www.reuters.com

 

[Dalit]

no one is crying stop living your delusional world

yanks will fight Russia without spill a single drop of blood like in Afghanistan with minimal money and effort and watch Russia collapse a second time


well considering your country's history you always seem to on the wrong side of it so im not surprised

tears from laughter as I watch Pakistanis support a country that has killed more Muslims historically and now than any other lol

LOL more tears for me to collect.

For once I do believe that I am on the right side of history. That is to see you guys getting whacked real good.

What would you say about your friend India? They are enjoying Russian oil/gas for a nickel and taking you for a ride LOL

India increased its share of Russian oil imports, its currently India's second largest Oil Supplier, Lavrov made a point to visit New Delhi after the Ukrainian invasion started.


Ironically its you who doesn't have a good reading of geopolitics, just b/c you hope for some sort of some sort of new alignment of Pakistan and Russia vs US and India, doesn't make it reality. The indians have been quite keen on playing their balancing game, where they give just enough support to Russia keep it in their camp(oil sales and defense purchases), while at the same time not getting too invested in it, to where it starts to potentially bring consequences from Washington, they know in the long run that Washington needs India in its geopolitical strategy in the Asia Pacific against China, and that as long as they don't become too invested in Russia, the cost benefit analysis for washinton would point to washington deciding that whatever punishment it doles out would not give benefit in terms of the costs of spoiling the great game in the asia pacific vis a vis China. Washington on the other hand would have no issue in Punishing Pakistan, b/c quite frankly it has no current geopolitical need for Pakistan, the cold war dynamics of containing the Soviet Union and preventing a land bridge towards the Pacific is long game, as is the afghan situation with the withdrawal.

I would recommend you try to read up on the matter, so that you don't make a fool of yourself with your projections on these supposed Russia Pakistan axis ties regarding India. Would also recommend not cursing or lobbing insulting, they just come across as childish, and don't really elevate any of the points you raised.

GOP supports India waiver on Russian weapons purchase

www.politico.com

U.S. senators file bill to exempt India from sanctions over Russia deal, citing China

Three Republican U.S. senators said on Friday they filed legislation to exempt India from sanctions for purchasing a Russian S400 missile defense system, citing the importance of working with allies to stand up against China.

www.reuters.com

LOL Don't get too cocky. Papa America is very insecure about Pakistan in many ways. You are obviously being disingenuous by claiming that papa USA has no interest in Pakistan. The latest meddling in Pakistan through regime change is not a secret to anyone. Papa America has a habit of claiming things and always doing the opposite. For a country that claims not to have any interest in Pakistan it has gone out of its way to plot regime change with the help of inside actors. That doesn't sound very much like not interested. US interests in Pakistan are always clandestine and dodgy to say the least.

Has it been a secret that the US pleads Pakistan to distance itself from China? Has it been a secret that the US has pleaded Pakistan from acquiring Iranian gas? Has it been a secret that the US has pressured Pakistan not to visit Russia? I could go on.

 

[hyperman]

LOL more tears for me to collect.

For once I do believe that I am on the right side of history. That is to see you guys getting whacked real good.

What would you say about your friend India? They are enjoying Russian oil/gas for a nickel and taking you for a ride LOL



LOL Don't get too cocky. Papa America is very insecure about Pakistan in many ways. You are obviously being disingenuous by claiming that papa USA has no interest in Pakistan. The latest meddling in Pakistan through regime change is not a secret to anyone. Papa America has a habit of claiming things and always doing the opposite. For a country that claims not to have any interest in Pakistan it has gone out of its way to plot regime change with the help of inside actors. That doesn't sound very much like not interested. US interests in Pakistan are always clandestine and dodgy to say the least.

Has it been a secret that the US pleads Pakistan to distance itself from China? Has it been a secret that the US has pleaded Pakistan from acquiring Iranian gas? Has it been a secret that the US has pressured Pakistan not to visit Russia? I could go on.

I think you are misunderstanding, the US state dept issuing warnings or interfering in the internal affairs of another state is not necessarily in correlation with it needing said state in its geopolitical calculus, thats behavior that the US carries out in dozens of states. The difference between say its approach to India in comparison to pakistan or even Turkey in comparison to Pakistan is that in terms of geopolitics, there is something the US needs from those states, namely in the case of India, using it as a bulwark against china or in the case of Turkey, it being strategically located and with regards to needing it to counter russia in the caucasus, central asia and the black sea region.

What you need to ask is what does the US need Pakistan for in the post soviet era, the conditions for the initial partnership(countering the soviet union and its hegemony in central asia, and preventing eventual soviet access to the indo pacific, via afghanistan, preventing a land route from potentially forming between soviet afghanistan and Soviet aligned India) don't exist anymore, Russian influence is not the same in central asia, if anything Chinese influence is bigger there, but Pakistan isn't going to align itself against China, for obvious reasons(Pakistan is aligned with China against India, and relies on it for support). And with the end of the US involvement in the Afghan War, and its disengagement from there in a recalibration of geopolitical strategy, there is even less necessity of Pakistan.

 

[Dalit]

I never understood the Pakistani simps for Russia. Atleast the Indians simping for Russia, they get something in return for Russia, and b/c the US needs India against China, it doesn't say anything to India, while Russian simping Pakistanis draw unneeded flak from the US, b/c Pakistan isn't as needed for the US anymore as India, in the new geopolitical alignment. Ironically All this Russia simping and Russia still has no interest in selling Pakistan weaponry in fear of losing India as a customer, and Russia isn't likely to choose Pakistan over India, and yet these Pakistani simps still go simping for Russia, and against Ukraine no less, a country that actually sells it Defense supplies and weapons and makes the engines for the drones they are buying from Turkey.

I understand staying neutral, which was the correct move for Pakistan, there is no need for Pakistan to be in any camp and an independent policy is probbaly best. but outright simping for Russia like some paksitanis are doing, and cheering it on makes no geopolitical sense. Russia isn't going to be besties with you, it just doesn't see you as valuable as its relationship with India.

What don't you get? If I had to choose between the US/West and Russia the choice is very easy. Russia despite all its ills never accused Pakistan for being a terror base. Neither did it attack Pakistan or kill Pakistanis in drone strikes. Can you say the same for your US and NATO ally countries?

 

[_Nabil_]

I never understood the Pakistani simps for Russia. Atleast the Indians simping for Russia, they get something in return for Russia, and b/c the US needs India against China, it doesn't say anything to India, while Russian simping Pakistanis draw unneeded flak from the US, b/c Pakistan isn't as needed for the US anymore as India, in the new geopolitical alignment. Ironically All this Russia simping and Russia still has no interest in selling Pakistan weaponry in fear of losing India as a customer, and Russia isn't likely to choose Pakistan over India, and yet these Pakistani simps still go simping for Russia, and against Ukraine no less, a country that actually sells it Defense supplies and weapons and makes the engines for the drones they are buying from Turkey.

I understand staying neutral, which was the correct move for Pakistan, there is no need for Pakistan to be in any camp and an independent policy is probbaly best. but outright simping for Russia like some paksitanis are doing, and cheering it on makes no geopolitical sense. Russia isn't going to be besties with you, it just doesn't see you as valuable as its relationship with India.

Using the Indian card is very cheap, you aren't talking to brainless uneducated people here, try harder again......

 

[ARMalik]

As I posted on another thread here.

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[SecularNationalist]

India increased its share of Russian oil imports, its currently India's second largest Oil Supplier, Lavrov made a point to visit New Delhi after the Ukrainian invasion started.


Ironically its you who doesn't have a good reading of geopolitics, just b/c you hope for some sort of some sort of new alignment of Pakistan and Russia vs US and India, doesn't make it reality. The indians have been quite keen on playing their balancing game, where they give just enough support to Russia keep it in their camp(oil sales and defense purchases), while at the same time not getting too invested in it, to where it starts to potentially bring consequences from Washington, they know in the long run that Washington needs India in its geopolitical strategy in the Asia Pacific against China, and that as long as they don't become too invested in Russia, the cost benefit analysis for washinton would point to washington deciding that whatever punishment it doles out would not give benefit in terms of the costs of spoiling the great game in the asia pacific vis a vis China. Washington on the other hand would have no issue in Punishing Pakistan, b/c quite frankly it has no current geopolitical need for Pakistan, the cold war dynamics of containing the Soviet Union and preventing a land bridge towards the Pacific is long game, as is the afghan situation with the withdrawal.

I would recommend you try to read up on the matter, so that you don't make a fool of yourself with your projections on these supposed Russia Pakistan axis ties regarding India. Would also recommend not cursing or lobbing insulting, they just come across as childish, and don't really elevate any of the points you raised.

GOP supports India waiver on Russian weapons purchase

www.politico.com

U.S. senators file bill to exempt India from sanctions over Russia deal, citing China

Three Republican U.S. senators said on Friday they filed legislation to exempt India from sanctions for purchasing a Russian S400 missile defense system, citing the importance of working with allies to stand up against China.

www.reuters.com

Those are just normal trade ties which exist between countries. That doesnt show some kind of strategic russian indian alliance.
Previously it was impossible for the russians to get closer to pakistan ,because they did not afford to annoy indians ,but soon after indians got cozy with the americans russia responded to india by getting closer to pakistan. This is a big development. Russians had military excercises with a military with whom india fought 4 wars. Signed defence deals. That never happened before. That thing was so real it caused a regime change in pakistan.
But since you are biased pimp pimping for indians and pulling facts out of your rear end its useless to argue with you.

 

[Viet]

"We are not interested in the eyes of the west , we are not shameful of showing who we are"
Powerful words from Russian foreign minister to put all EU , NATO scums in their place. Means if you mess with us , you will get what you asked for , we are Russians not Iraq or Afghanistan.

Lavrov is a liar.
End of story.
Waste of time.

 

[mudas777]

no one is crying stop living your delusional world

yanks will fight Russia without spill a single drop of blood like in Afghanistan with minimal money and effort and watch Russia collapse a second time


well considering your country's history you always seem to on the wrong side of it so im not surprised

tears from laughter as I watch Pakistanis support a country that has killed more Muslims historically and now than any other lol

Mate US went for the Holy pilgrimage to the Iraq, Libya, Syria and no wonder still stealing oil from the Syria. More then a million killed in the Iraq alone and also in the Afghanistan separately and still dodgy media is telling us Russians are the worse. Were those US invasions were hospitals building exercise i wonder?

 

[SecularNationalist]

Lavrov is a liar.
End of story.
Waste of time.

And US is the land of saints.
CIA,M16 are the biggest charity organizations.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Lavrov is a liar.
End of story.
Waste of time.

Why do you say he is a liar? Do you have any credible evidence to prove that he is a liar?

PS I am not pro-russian or anything like that.

 

[Apollon]

"We are not interested in the eyes of the west , we are not shameful of showing who we are"
Powerful words from Russian foreign minister to put all EU , NATO scums in their place. Means if you mess with us , you will get what you asked for , we are Russians not Iraq or Afghanistan.

Meanwhile his daughter lived in London until she was kicked out few weeks ago. Russia obviously is not good enough for his daughter.

Pakistanis like most of the developing countries in the world have an interest in seeing the decline of the blackmail based world order led by the US. And Russia is challenging that. We are rooting for the underdog. We don't want to live in a world where America is free to destroy countries just by sanctioning them, or bomb countries with no repercussion. If Russia is able to subdue Europe, it will be a great blow to American hegemony and pave way for a multi-polar world. Hopefully the inflation and lack of gas in winter will knock some sense into the European slaves of the Empire.

Russia is a shithole and we will never bow to them. I have different option for you, Russia,,,whose economy is smaller than Italy will collapse. I may remind you that Europe never bowed to dictatorships. We rather let the whole world burn. Its your people who will starve, not us.

 

[MeFishToo]

Lavrov has spend 20 years lying and deflecting. Nothing comming from him can be taken at face value. He is using every opportunity to spread false narratives, and the BBC shouldnt give him a platform to do it.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Meanwhile his daughter lived in London until she was kicked out few weeks ago. Russia obviously is not good enough for his daughter.

We have a saying in urdu which roughly translates to "a impotent male cat snatching a pole"
Means when you are frustrated and helpless you act like a lowlife to release your frustration.
Trying to hurt someones daughter who is on a legal visa and has nothing to do with russia war on ukraine or has no official position inside russian government speaks a lot about the high moral grounds you europeans have.

Lavrov has spend 20 years lying and deflecting. Nothing comming from him can be taken at face value. He is using every opportunity to spread false narratives, and the BBC shouldnt give him a platform to do it.

And what charity work the west and US has done in the past 20 years? The whole world can see the death and destruction you brought in the past 20 years.
Thats why russia is behaving this way,no more talks this time only a strong military punch on your ugly faces. Thats the only language you understand.

 

[MeFishToo]

And what charity work the west and US has done in the past 20 years? The whole world can see the death and destruction you brought in the past 20 years.
Thats why russia is behaving this way,no more talks this time only a strong military punch on your ugly faces. Thats the only language you understand.

Please give me break.. As if Russia cares about the “death and destruction” the US has been involved in the last 20 years. Russia cares about Russia and russian influence - nothing else. The only reason Russia oppose Ukraine leaning westward, is because it reduces Russias so called sphere of influence and abillity to control a weaker neighboring country.

I said BBC shouldnt give him a platform spreading his false narratives. He represents an authoritarian state, and uses every single opportunity to accuse the West of being exactly what he represents. No need to spread more russian disinformation.