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If anything recent events like the Trump election showed that there are real people behind these comments and real people who give these comments a thumbs up.
They might not represent the majority of its people since many would be poor hardworking folks who have a good heart and who don't nearly have enough time nor resources to log on to the internet but I have no doubts this presents a picture to us about the thinking of a new fundamentalist middleclass.
 
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Indians are no more or less polite than anyone else.

If you chose to see only those who are impolite, you will see only that, if you chose to see those who are reasonable and erudite you will see them.

As someone already mentioned a racist always finds a way to justify his racism.
 
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I see the point you raise @Kaptaan , and can empathize to an extent. We are/were both members of a western forum whose Asia section has been hijacked by chest thumping right wing Indians. However several years before you joined that forum, this was not the case, and there were actually some great Indian members on that forum (who too got silenced out by what I call the "modi brigade"). Rosi, a moderator on that forum had her nationalism, her loyalty to her country questioned by these extremists to the extent that she has left and its modi brigade Raj over there now as you know.

The point is, xenophobes do not necessarily exist to a greater extent in India (that would be illogical to presume). However they certainly have been far more successful in pushing out sane minded individuals from the center stage. Pakistan too has its fair share of similar minded people but the existence of individuals like Hassan Nisar or Cyril Almeida, or in fact even the moderation of online mediums like Defence.pk and Dawn newspaper show that the "sane" lot have been far more assertive and dominant, whereas in India they seem to have caved in to the jingoistic chest thumping right wing.
 
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I see the point you raise @Kaptaan , and can empathize to an extent. We are/were both members of a western forum whose Asia section has been hijacked by chest thumping right wing Indians. However several years before you joined that forum, this was not the case, and there were actually some great Indian members on that forum (who too got silenced out by what I call the "modi brigade"). Rosi, a moderator on that forum had her nationalism, her loyalty to her country questioned by these extremists to the extent that she has left and its modi brigade Raj over there now as you know.

The point is, xenophobes do not necessarily exist to a greater extent in India (that would be illogical to presume). However they certainly have been far more successful in pushing out sane minded individuals from the center stage. Pakistan too has its fair share of similar minded people but the existence of individuals like Hassan Nisar or Cyril Almeida, or in fact even the moderation of online mediums like Defence.pk and Dawn newspaper show that the "sane" lot have been far more assertive and dominant, whereas in India they seem to have caved in to the jingoistic chest thumping right wing.

Hassan Nisar?

Really bro?

I used to have so much respect for you.
 
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I am often sniffed at for using harsh language with referance to Ganga Indian's. More than once Mods here have pointed fingers at me. I am often told that such language is not befitting od a TTC. Of course I have pointed out I would rather lose my status then change my stance.

The fact is and I can say this confidently - the language that Indian's use for Pakistani's or Pakistani extraction is far more vulgar, profane, demeaning then anything that Pakistani's throw back. The amount of filthy language that pours out of Indian's at every level of discourse is shocking. In fact on this score the Indian's wind hands down. I am by nature a very polite but over time have adjusted my language for Indian's.

Times of India appears to be a respectable flagship newspaper of India. Below is the language being used on a article in referance to Gen. Bajwa. P**orki, P**igs, Rape seem to be the default synonym for Pakistan. This applies across the board even on Western forums there is the same brazen use of language.

Compare this to any Pakistani newspapers and see what language is accepted - Try that on Dawn for example. Even saying 'Injun' would get moderator censor.

Ab ki bar bajwa ki baari...ab bajwa ki bajegi...haha

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Captain Zed - Thane - 47 mins ago
Right, is baar Bajwa ka bajeega baaja !!

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Captain Zed - India - 1 hour ago
BTW Bajwa sounds so Indian, probably his ancestors were raped by mughlia army and forced to convert as is the case with all m**oosli Indian & p**aki p**igs...haha

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Link > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...wa-as-new-army-chief/articleshow/55637786.cms



Just take a look..
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Look at the level of hatred.. the last post got positive rating.. same guy gave negative rating.. for my post

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Not at all relevant, dear Sir; these are from the lunatic fringe, and on a carpet this size, the fringe is unfortunately large.

There is prevalent trend of self aggrandizement among especially Indian Hindus. It oozes from the way they talk. One example of it is the way you once nonchalantly called Pakistanis "savages".
 
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Crux is that hate messages are from both side. Only difference is that if you are an Indian then you get banned but if you are a Pakistani with above avg communication then you become TTA.
 
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Hassan Nisar?

Really bro?

I used to have so much respect for you.

Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with the vast majority of stuff nisar says. My point is the very fact that individuals like him are given free space to talk and speak their mind in Pakistan, is in stark contrast to India where such individuals are immediately shut down and ostracised for being anti-national. Case in point is Arundhati Roy who has been receiving death threats because she has said things mainstream Indian media and the far right disagree with.
Again I don't agree with most of the stuff Nisar has to say, but i will most certainly defend his right to say it. That's what sets us apart from our neighbours.
 
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because hate is institutionalized in india. We have been saying this for a long time. Declare india as an enemy state officially. The attitude will change accordingly. Make it complicated for traitors like nawaz shareef to function.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with the vast majority of stuff nisar says. My point is the very fact that individuals like him are given free space to talk and speak their mind in Pakistan, is in stark contrast to India where such individuals are immediately shut down and ostracised for being anti-national. Case in point is Arundhati Roy who has been receiving death threats because she has said things mainstream Indian media and the far right disagree with.
Again I don't agree with most of the stuff Nisar has to say, but i will most certainly defend his right to say it. That's what sets us apart from our neighbours.

Hello my dear Gotaland princess, how are you? :)
 
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I have stopped reading TOI, YTube and Facebook comments and I agree, people responding in the most irritating and stupid way overwhelmes the sane ones. Unfortunately, in these days internet has become a handy tool to brainwash people who hardly care to chase the veracity of any news they come across on internet.

This considerable part of Indian population may hold degrees required to get a job, an internet connection but yet lack minimum common sense. Few days back, a man commented on Facebook against demonetization and 99% of the replies he got was associated with his religion. I was so disgusted about the responses that I apologized immediately on behalf of the morons.

The largest part of the population, I think cares more for their daily livings. The second largest part, this 'educated' middle class generation have been through a terrible education system and there lies the problem. Unless we introduce more sophisticated curriculum in our education system this is going to be a major trouble for Indian society in future.


Analytical reflection with true Think Tank quality. :tup:
 
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