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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...g-new-nuclear-plants/articleshow/53226824.cms

B Sivakumar| TNN | Jul 15, 2016, 04.32 PM IST
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As India seeks to ramp up its nuclear power generation with new plants, it may well draw upon its experience in Kudankulam, Tamil Nadu. With the Union government opting to have plants of all commercial designs in the market, Kudankulam holds valuable lessons on how to install and operate new nuclear power technology. Experts suggest that the first unit in any of the proposed sites should be run by the equipment supplier for a few years until Indian engineers learn the ropes.

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When Kudankulam Unit 2 went critical on Sunday, plant engineers were confident this unit will have a smooth sailing unlike Unit 1. With its frequent start-stops and shutdowns, Unit 1 had a poor operating record until recently. Its problems were not just teething troubles in equipment but legal, political and other hurdles that set off a chain of events. The Fukushima accident and the 2011 protests led to stalling of work. "There was pressure from the Russian company that their engineers sitting idle should be redeployed in other countries where the Russian reactor, VVER, was being commissioned. All of them left the site. After the protests died down, our engineers had to pick up the thread and do many things on their own without any assistance from the Russians," says former head of Atomic Energy Commission M R Srinivasan.


Indian nuclear power engineers are masters of the Canadian design, but that wasn't quite enough to install a greenfield Russian VVER plant. Without Russian presence, many missteps happened, say observers. "The whole control system had to be re-laid when the Russian drawings came later because what we went ahead with originally was based on our knowledge of the Canadian plant," says former chairman of Atomic Energy Regulatory Board A Gopalakrishnan.


When Unit 1 was finally commissioned, other troubles followed suit, though by then Russian assistance on site was available. Plant engineers cite a new and upgraded valve control system that had to be incorporated, which led to delays in bringing back the plant online. This extended the annual maintenance shutdown that started in March, 2015.


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And excellent point made here! This is not something to take it lightly, as an accident can be extremely serious. Paying a bit more up front would help to ensure better and reliable performance of such plants.
But the silver lining was that whatever changes were being made in Unit 1 could be incorporated in Unit 2 as its installation was underway . "Such changes in Unit 2 have meant no new problems were encountered in it," says site director R S Sundar. While the Unit 2 reactor attained criticality within a few days of fuel loading, it took nearly six months for Unit 1. Site engineers say Unit 2 operation has been smooth so far.


Things would have been much better if India had followed the international practice like the Chinese did, says Gopalakrishnan. "Similar VVER reactors are operating in Tianwan in China but constructed using the concept of reference plant. The Russians took 100% responsibility, brought their own equipment, selected the Chinese engineers who were working there but the Russians had complete control over them. All liability was initially with Russians. After two or three years of satisfactory operation as Russian reactors, they became Chinese plants. That's the way to go about it, especially in new technology," he adds.
 
What lessons??!!! Russians created the design and Indians seem to have done the job of only manual labourers.

The agreement for Kudankulam nuclear power plant was signed in early 1990s. But then came the dismantling of Soviet Union and the project was suspended for at least a decade. Why couldn't Indians finish it on their own?
 
What lessons??!!! Russians created the design and Indians seem to have done the job of only manual labourers.

The agreement for Kudankulam nuclear power plant was signed in early 1990s. But then came the dismantling of Soviet Union and the project was suspended for at least a decade. Why couldn't Indians finish it on their own?


Indians designed their own reactors and made them in operation. PHWR 700 MW.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/507490/four-india-designed-700-mw.html

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...g-new-nuclear-plants/articleshow/53226824.cms

B Sivakumar| TNN | Jul 15, 2016, 04.32 PM IST
53226797.jpg

Close Interaction With Foreign Engineers Must

As India seeks to ramp up its nuclear power generation with new plants, it may well draw upon its experience in Kudankulam, Tamil Nadu. With the Union government opting to have plants of all commercial designs in the market, Kudankulam holds valuable lessons on how to install and operate new nuclear power technology. Experts suggest that the first unit in any of the proposed sites should be run by the equipment supplier for a few years until Indian engineers learn the ropes.

Master.jpg


When Kudankulam Unit 2 went critical on Sunday, plant engineers were confident this unit will have a smooth sailing unlike Unit 1. With its frequent start-stops and shutdowns, Unit 1 had a poor operating record until recently. Its problems were not just teething troubles in equipment but legal, political and other hurdles that set off a chain of events. The Fukushima accident and the 2011 protests led to stalling of work. "There was pressure from the Russian company that their engineers sitting idle should be redeployed in other countries where the Russian reactor, VVER, was being commissioned. All of them left the site. After the protests died down, our engineers had to pick up the thread and do many things on their own without any assistance from the Russians," says former head of Atomic Energy Commission M R Srinivasan.


Indian nuclear power engineers are masters of the Canadian design, but that wasn't quite enough to install a greenfield Russian VVER plant. Without Russian presence, many missteps happened, say observers. "The whole control system had to be re-laid when the Russian drawings came later because what we went ahead with originally was based on our knowledge of the Canadian plant," says former chairman of Atomic Energy Regulatory Board A Gopalakrishnan.


When Unit 1 was finally commissioned, other troubles followed suit, though by then Russian assistance on site was available. Plant engineers cite a new and upgraded valve control system that had to be incorporated, which led to delays in bringing back the plant online. This extended the annual maintenance shutdown that started in March, 2015.


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And excellent point made here! This is not something to take it lightly, as an accident can be extremely serious. Paying a bit more up front would help to ensure better and reliable performance of such plants.
But the silver lining was that whatever changes were being made in Unit 1 could be incorporated in Unit 2 as its installation was underway . "Such changes in Unit 2 have meant no new problems were encountered in it," says site director R S Sundar. While the Unit 2 reactor attained criticality within a few days of fuel loading, it took nearly six months for Unit 1. Site engineers say Unit 2 operation has been smooth so far.


Things would have been much better if India had followed the international practice like the Chinese did, says Gopalakrishnan. "Similar VVER reactors are operating in Tianwan in China but constructed using the concept of reference plant. The Russians took 100% responsibility, brought their own equipment, selected the Chinese engineers who were working there but the Russians had complete control over them. All liability was initially with Russians. After two or three years of satisfactory operation as Russian reactors, they became Chinese plants. That's the way to go about it, especially in new technology," he adds.
Where are all those Christian NGOs complaining about how dangerous this plant would be now?

@Star Wars @arp2041 @Levina @Parul @noksss @skyisthelimit @Stephen Cohen
 

Actually the protests was also contributed by a major political party, the protests peaked just before local body elections.... and the plan was to withdraw the support after the elections.... But then later others took up the protests.....You know how they were silenced???? Thru power cuts by "Amma"....... Interior parts of TN had power only for 6 hours.....2 hours of power with a gap of 8 hours in a day....... Along with that curbing the NGO's..... There was also a terrorist who got caught (which was not disclosed ) during this protests...... Slowly and steadily the common people lost interests as they were not having power and they could not blame govt......
 
Why is it worth mentioning that these were Christian NGOs?
Probably we could've omitted that part, although the local church in the area asserted significant control over protesters.
But in the end, it was established that without money from NGOs (funded from NORDIC countries) and local political support , they could not have kept plant commissioning on hold for so long.
 
Russians created the design and Indians seem to have done the job of only manual labourers.

Dear false flag troll, India is one of the few countries that can make class-1 components for N-reactors.

Why couldn't Indians finish it on their own?

If you didn't knew, our forte was always medium size PHWRs, not LWRs. Anyway, we're developing 900MW PWR

http://m.deccanherald.com/articles.php?name=http://www.deccanherald.com/content/366279/scientists-design-india039s-largest-nuclear.html

Russians created the design and Indians seem to have done the job of only manual labourers.

Dear false flag troll, India is one of the few countries that can make class-1 components for N-reactors.

Why couldn't Indians finish it on their own?

If you didn't knew, our expertise was always in medium size PHWRs (up to 700MW) & not LWRs. Anyway, we're developing 900MW PWR design.

http://m.deccanherald.com/articles.php?name=http://www.deccanherald.com/content/366279/scientists-design-india039s-largest-nuclear.html

Why is it worth mentioning that these were Christian NGOs?

Latin Catholic Church had a major role in the protest.

It was a Bishop from the same Latin Catholic Church who gave up their church & presbytery in Trivandrum for ISRO in the sixties.

Looks like they've changed for the worst, with all the foreign funds flowing in.
 
Why is it worth mentioning that these were Christian NGOs?
Purely because of the fact in this specific case (Kudankulam) there was an irefutable link between explicitly Christian NGOs and the protests/disruption. There is no explicit relgious link other than the Western interests used these religious instruments for their goals, the religion in question is meaningless.
 
Can anyone give details on the experimental 500MW reactor India was planning?
 

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