Kolkata: Trinamool student leader held for being Pakistan spy

[scorpionx]

When did I say Bongs are are responsible for easy come and go between borders ?

How is this even relevant ?

The preventive action is when political parties do not pander to ISI agents and provide them cover.

Where did I say it does not happen elsewhere ?

It is YOU who wants to adopt the aadharsh Liberal attitude of dragging in everybody else in an article about ISI Agents CAUGHT IN BENGAL



I work in the defence sector so I have a pretty good understand of how it works. I am certain it is much better than your theoretical models.

No one is expecting Trinamool to weed out moles, the whole argument was about Trinamool weeding out "minority appeasement" and "jihadi appeasement" which leads you to pander to criminals and anti nationals who then go on to support the ISI as the news has so readily demonstrated.

No amount of obfuscating this reality can work. Nor can strawmen which you are trying to build and demolish give you any moral victory here.

BD because I mentioned BSF, not to mention that the ISI agent mentioned frequent travel of BD made possible by a blooming industry in W.B than support such activity.

Such a boring fella you are. Can't even remember what you wrote a few minutes earlier. The entire incident is not even closely related to 'Muslim appeasement' or Jihadi appeasement. The Burdwan blast has been probed by NIA which I assume to be a quite competent authority to conduct such investigation. And nothing as sort has been found that it was TMC that was unofficially harboring the Jamaat militant wing. Nor in this case, there was no appeasement policy working here in appointing a Muslim as a party member, or is it how any political organisation works in this country? Your entire lecture that Bengal needs a course correction for 1. the culprit getting an ID 2. Bengal's porous border 3. Appeasement politics is nothing but lame rant.

 

[LaBong]

Lol this idiot starts his post saying bengalis are castrated because couple of ISI agents are found in Kolkata and now crying about ad hominem!

Yes those are ad hominem, you need to make an argument first to deserve a rational retort!

I work in the defence sector so I have a pretty good understand of how it works.

Another govt money guzzling idiot who has nothing to show for the money govts keep pouring in. I bet he is just another geek with keyboard!

Frustrated closet Islamist

Im a hindu agnostic from forward caste, unlike you my ancestors never made to remain uncovered at the top because of who they were.

 

[scorpionx]

When rest of India fought the Mughals and Muslim rule, where was bengal ?

Funny that it comes from someone like you whose organization murdered the father of the Nation.

 

[Mamsalaphala]

Such a boring fella you are. Can't even remember what you wrote a few minutes earlier. The entire incident is not even closely related to 'Muslim appeasement' or Jihadi appeasement. The Burdwan blast has been probed by NIA which I assume to be a quite competent authority to conduct such investigation. And nothing as sort has been found that it was TMC that was unofficially harboring the Jamaat militant wing. Nor in this case, there was nothing appeasement policy working here in appointing a Muslim as a party member, or is it how any political organisation works in this country?

LOL.... looks like you have nothing to hold on to but call me Names

The ISI agent was supported by people who held important positions in the Trinamool Congress. He was given a job by the leaders of Trinamool congress in a Defence Shipyard. The ISI agent was provided by voter id and passport by bongs.

These are the facts of the case.

That these Bongs who were the sleeper cells of the ISI and provided support to ISI agents in Bengal and that they found ready acceptance and place in Trinamool Congress is proof of the kind of party Trinamool Congress is.

Why did these ISI agents not find space in BJP ?

What makes TMC so special ?

Burdwan blast is a completely separate case. Yet it was found that the house in which blast occurred is said to have been owned by a Trinamool Congress worker Nurul Hasan Choudhury and it was alleged that a TMC office also used to function from the garage in the house.

Earlier, a Anand Bazar Patrika report had also said, "Before 2011, the Jamaat helped Trinamool with huge funds secretly transferred across the border. "Later when the Jamaat faced government's ire during its opposition to war crimes trials, it received funds from Trinamool which had come to power in 2011 and many of whose leaders were ministers in the Manmohan Singh government," the Ananda Bazar Patrika report said, quoting extensively from a detailed report it claims was given to India by Bangladesh intelligence.


Repeated involvement of TMC in all these cases indicates its nexus with Anti National elements.


Werther this happens by "accident" or by planning is left to faith. But this whole thing stinks to high heavens.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

@Mamsalaphala

Regionalism is pointless, we already have enough divisions as it is in this nation

 

[sharma1111]

Irshad's confessions

"Irshad has confessed in preliminary interrogation on Sunday night that he stole designs of corvettes and patrol crafts designed and manufactured at the Garden Reach yards. He says the designs were handed over to their Pakistani handlers by Ashfaq," said a top official of the Intelligence Bureau.

He said they have found records of Ashfaq's several trips to Bangladesh and Pakistan.

 

[Mamsalaphala]

Lol this idiot starts his post saying bengalis are castrated because couple of ISI agents are found in Kolkata and now crying about ad hominem!

LOL... First learn what is Ad Hominem dumb@ss.

Merely insulting someone does not make it an ad hominem attack or fallacy. One must make the insult as a PREMISE of the argument, rather than as part of the CONCLUSION.

I provided explanations for my post where I called the Hindu Bongs emasculated. It was the conclusion, not the premise of my argument.

Another govt money guzzling idiot who has nothing to show for the money govts keep pouring in. I bet he is just another geek with keyboard!

LOL..... you Bongs cannot think beyond Govt. Jobs ..... you are a cliché.

Im a hindu agnostic from forward caste, unlike you my ancestors never made to remain uncovered at the top because who they were.

....... did you just bring up your caste and declare yourself a Casteist ?

You clearly think being a casteist is better than being called an Islamist. You are truly a Clown. An insecure one at that.

 

[sharma1111]

Kudos to Indian appeasement politics and trade union culture of Trinamoon muslim league that Pakistan gets complete access to kamorta-class corvette!!

 

[scorpionx]

LOL.... looks like you have nothing to hold on to but call me Names

Werther this happens by "accident" or by planning is left to faith. But this whole thing stinks to high heavens.

You can repeatedly call me strawman, but i can't call you boring just for once. come on!! Show some tolerance

The ISI agent was supported by people who held important positions in the Trinamool Congress. He was given a job by the leaders of Trinamool congress in a Defence Shipyard. The ISI agent was provided by voter id and passport by bongs.

These are the facts of the case.

He was given a job as a trade union leader by the party and NOT as ISI agent, smart guy. The main accused Izaz was given an ID by his contact (the trade union guy's brother in law, another accused) and not 'bengalis. Your attempt to generalize the entire community is plain stupid to the least.

That these Bongs who were the sleeper cells of the ISI and provided support to ISI agents in Bengal and that they found ready acceptance and place in Trinamool Congress is proof of the kind of party Trinamool Congress is.

Why did these ISI agents not find space in BJP ?

What makes TMC so special ?

Are you really that naive to believe that ISI sleeper cells are only found in Bengal? The reason these guys do not find space in BJP and what makes TMC special is that the uncontrolled overflux of political volunteers in the party and the pathetic shattered state of BJP in Bengal which seems to have no political ambition in the state or expectation from itself in the coming elections.

Burdwan blast is a completely separate case. Yet it was found that the house in which blast occurred is said to have been owned by a Trinamool Congress worker Nurul Hasan Choudhury and it was alleged that a TMC office also used to function from the garage in the house.

Earlier, a Anand Bazar Patrika report had also said, "Before 2011, the Jamaat helped Trinamool with huge funds secretly transferred across the border. "Later when the Jamaat faced government's ire during its opposition to war crimes trials, it received funds from Trinamool which had come to power in 2011 and many of whose leaders were ministers in the Manmohan Singh government," the Ananda Bazar Patrika report said, quoting extensively from a detailed report it claims was given to India by Bangladesh intelligence.


Repeated involvement of TMC in all these cases indicates its nexus with Anti National elements.

Certain anti-national elements have off course found a place in TMC and nobody will deny it. But that does not mean Bengalis have to swallow your lectures on ethical course correction on internet forums.

 

[JonAsad]

So he gave false passports to some people- must be an ISI agent-

 

[Mamsalaphala]

He was given a job as a trade union leader by the party and NOT as ISI agent, smart guy. The main accused Izaz was given an ID by his contact (the trade union guy's brother in law, another accused) and not 'bengalis. Your attempt to generalize the entire community is plain stupid to the least.

The ISI agent was given the job in the shipyard. I assumed the one who gave him that job is a Bong, even if he is not, it does not change anything.

Are you really that naive to believe that ISI sleeper cells are only found in Bengal? The reason these guys do not find space in BJP and what makes TMC special is that the uncontrolled overflux of political volunteers in the party and the pathetic shattered state of BJP in Bengal which seem to have no expectation from itself.

This thread is about sleeper cells found in Bengal.

Irrespective of assigned reasons, these cases have specifically come up w.r.t TMC. No point in trying to brush it off as "unexpected". The history of such activities finding a link to TMC is just growing.

I have NO DOUBT that the next case of ISI agent or Terrorist caught in Bengal will have some link to TMC too.

Certain anti-national workers have off course found a place in TMC and nobody will deny it. But that does not mean Bengalis have to swallow your lectures on ethical course correction on on line forums.

You are not required to swallow or even accept anything I say. We are still a Free nation, even though its BJP's "intolerant" rule in India

 

[LaBong]

LOL..... you Bongs cannot think beyond Govt. Jobs ..... you are a cliché.

Lol thats rich coming fron you! When are you making your pilgrimage to middle east!!

 

[Mamsalaphala]

Lol thats rich coming fron you! When are you making your pilgrimage to middle east!!

But it din't come from me. It came from YOU

 

[sharma1111]

I can post the link but this is the biggest treason of 70 years.

Irshad, TMC worker and other ISI handlers sold billion $ worth design of Kamorta class corvette to Pakistan
ISI Ring Busted . Pakistan high commission link. Pakistam embassy in Delhi facilitated their travel to Pakistan
Google: West Bengal's Trinamool Congress in trouble over arrest of three ISI agents

 

[LaBong]

I am not surprised. After Bihar election these fellas were showering hell on the people of Bihar, calling them bhaiyas, rapists, labors and what not. They have made it an unenviable habit to relate everything with ethnicity, secularism and Muslim appeasement for the fault of some one else

Just wait for Punjab election and see choicest words for punjabis by our nationalist friends!

did you just bring up your caste and declare yourself a Casteist ?

You clearly think being a casteist is better than being called an Islamist. You are truly a Clown. An insecure one at that.

Im not trying to climb a higher moral ground but just enjoying the spectacle of you being shredded off all your dignity. Just like what you tried to do with us in first few pages.