Kolkata: Trinamool student leader held for being Pakistan spy

[Guynextdoor2]

Yes, Bongs in general have a problem, and it is the communist ideologies, what our resident Keralian is talking is nonsense.

I don't think it's the comie ideology alone. I think the people are very insecuew and attention seeking. I think this probably is a throw back or a longing for the fact that 100 years ago they were the capital of India.

I think the promoted communism because the middle and elite class thought it makes them looks cool and more 'evolved' than the rest of India.A bong makes a movie (think Piku) he'll take Amitabh Bacchan, bore us with Bengali lines in a Hindi movie and make him go around so called 'famous' places before he craps and dies.

 

[magudi]

She knows that Muslim votes can keep her in power, and she will do everything to please all types of them, the list is actually very long...and main opposition party CPM will not object to it in fear of losing the Muslim votes further.

Am sure no CPM CM would go recite kalima for votes

 

[Mamsalaphala]

TMC infighting that made and broke student leader

Ashfaq Ansari, the Trinamul Chhatra Parishad leader arrested for suspected ISI links, had become the general secretary of the union's unit at Harimohan Ghose College in Garden Reach in July because of infighting. The same reason prompted his untimely resignation in October.

In July, Ashfaq was elected the general secretary of the college, outside which a police officer was shot dead during a campus poll-related clash in February 2013, mid-term when 15 of the 28 class representatives expressed their no-confidence in his predecessor Istiaque Alam Ansari and supported him.

A teacher of the college said Ashfaq, a third-year BA student, resigned in October when many of the class representatives expressed dissatisfaction with him for failing to organise the freshers' welcome programme and the yearly sports events. It is through such events that a students' union flaunts its campus dominance.

According to sources in the college, the class representatives were unhappy with Ashfaq because "he lacked organisational skills".

The sources attributed Ashfaq's emergence in college politics to his "proximity" to local Trinamul councillor Ranjit Sil, whose son died in an explosion while he was allegedly making bombs in the area a day before the 2013 clash. Sil tonight said Ashfaq was a "nobody in the party" and there was "no question of backing him".

In August, Ashfaq was accused of leading an assault on two ABP Ananda journalists when they went to cover a factional clash in the college. The college sources said the clash had broken out between the groups led by Ashfaq and Istiaque when the latter tried to set up an independent union board.

The Harimohan Ghose College teacher said Ashfaq was "infamous" for his "bullying ways". According to the sources, Ashfaq never attended classes.

At Ramnagar Lane near the college, neighbours of Ashfaq expressed surprise at the arrest of the union leader and his father.

"He appeared to be like any other college student. I don't know how he got involved in a terrorist network," a neighbour said.

Bijay Acharya, the teacher-in-charge of Harimohan Ghose College, said Ashfaq had tendered his resignation to him. "In late October, Ashfaq wrote to me stating that he was stepping down as the general secretary owing to some personal reasons," he said.

After Ashfaq's arrest, Trinamul distanced itself from him.

Trinamul secretary-general and education minister Partha Chatterjee said: "He was a CPM activist. He had switched allegiance to the Congress. When the shootout outside the college resulted in the death of a policeman, he switched over to Trinamul."

According to Chatterjee, after Ashfaq became the general secretary of the college's students' wing by "securing the votes of those in the union", there were a lot of complaints against him.

"Even the principal (teacher-in-charge) complained to me. These were serious complaints. He turned out to be a hooligan who was up to all sorts of trouble in the dock area and also on the college campus," the minister said.

"So, as education minister and the party secretary-general, I decided to have him removed. I told the TMCP unit in the college that this boy won't do. He was removed just before the Puja," he added.

Chatterjee said Ashfaq had never been involved in the party organisation.

A senior Trinamul leader close to Mamata Banerjee said the chief minister was "extremely displeased" with the association of the TMCP with "such an unsavoury element".

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

I have far more faith in a mallu to defend India than I have on a Bong. The Bong will rationalize treason by telling me, "we are all humans after all"

Bongs have given the guiding icons of Nationalism and Hinduism- so It would unjust to just write them off yet- They have had almost 40 years of commie rule and now TMC- So put yourself in their shoes before criticizing them such harshly-

 

[dray]

I don't think it's the comie ideology alone. I think the people are very insecuew and attention seeking. I think this probably is a throw back or a longing for the fact that 100 years ago they were the capital of India.

I think the promoted communism because the middle and elite class thought it makes them looks cool and more 'evolved' than the rest of India.A bong makes a movie (think Piku) he'll take Amitabh Bacchan, bore us with Bengali lines in a Hindi movie and make him go around so called 'famous' places before he craps and dies.

To begin with, that's crap!

Second, Communists came to power after the high-handedness shown by the Siddharthashankar's Congress govt. during the emergency, for the first 10 years they did land reforms and got huge support from the majority rural segments, and then they hijacked the election processes, put their men in every organization, and reduced elections to a joke, absence of a credible opposition helped them to stay in power. In reality they didn't get the popular mandate in the later period of Jyoti Basu's rule, but they have managed to make a large section of people to think on communist lines. Ir's not about being perceived as "Cool", as you suggest.

Finally, Piku is not the only Hindi films that Bengalis made, there are plenty of them. Many of the old Amitabh Bacchan films and almost all of the hit films of Rajesh Khanna were made by Bengalis, in recent times you will find some big hits by the Bengali film makers, see those films instead of Piku, or see Prem Ratan Dhan Payo.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

To begin with, that's crap!

Second, Communists came to power after the high-handedness shown by the Siddharthashankar's Congress govt. during the emergency, for the first 10 years they did land reforms and got huge support from the majority rural segments, and then they hijacked the election processes, put their men in every organization, and reduced elections to a joke, absence of a credible opposition helped them to stay in power. In reality they didn't get the popular mandate in the later period of Jyoti Basu's rule, but they have managed to make a large section of people to think on communist lines. Ir's not about being perceived as "Cool", as you suggest.

Finally, Piku is not the only Hindi films that Bengalis made, there are plenty of them. Many of the old Amitabh Bacchan films and almost all of the hit films of Rajesh Khanna were made by Bengalis, in recent times you will find some big hits by the Bengali film makers, see those films instead of Piku, or see Prem Ratan Dhan Payo.

See, I told you, the problem with you bongs is that you can't accept criticism.

Now raise this in parliament like you wanted to do when Saurav Ganguli was dropped form the team

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

I don't think it's the comie ideology alone. I think the people are very insecuew and attention seeking. I think this probably is a throw back or a longing for the fact that 100 years ago they were the capital of India.

I think the promoted communism because the middle and elite class thought it makes them looks cool and more 'evolved' than the rest of India.A bong makes a movie (think Piku) he'll take Amitabh Bacchan, bore us with Bengali lines in a Hindi movie and make him go around so called 'famous' places before he craps and dies.

Bengalis were the progressive class of the 60s- They has best educational institutes and many thinkers so Its only natural progression for the elite to have a leftist leaning-

Other than that rise of communism has got more to do with the majority trying to find solutions to the Zamindari elite minority ruling class- The same situation existed Bihar too- but what lacked in Bihar was the educated elite capable of channelizing the majority of landless and oppressed to the level of achieving the power at the state level-

Other than that I agree there has been a sense of superiority complex among the Bengali elite WRT rest of India-

 

[Mamsalaphala]

Bongs have given the guiding icons of Nationalism and Hinduism- so It would unjust to just write them off yet- They have had almost 40 years of commie rule and now TMC- So put yourself in their shoes before criticizing them such harshly-

First, I am not criticising them. I am stating facts as I see it

Second it is not like the COmmie and TMC rule were imposed on them like the Islamic and Anglo-Christian rule.

Third, Bongs did give their share of Nationalism and Hinduism,one more than the other.

Swami Vivekanand gave us "Hindu Nationalism", something Bongs are quick to disown. He is the father of Political Hinduism which toady we call "Hindutva" and put it down to Veer Savarkar. What people do not realize that Savarkar himself was inspired by Swami Vivekananda and Swami Ram Tirth (also disciple of Vivekananda).

So its not me who is dismissing their contribution, Bongs are doing that to themselves.

Most Bongs do not realize that Rabindranath Tagor was himself a "Hindutvadi" by today's standards.

It is the Bongs who have caste off their heritage under the influence of Communist. That heritage was their armour, so without it they are destined to be wounded. By me or anybody else who expose them to harsher realities.

Bengalis were the progressive class of the 60s- They has best educational institutes and many thinkers so Its only natural progression for the elite to have a leftist leaning-

Other than that rise of communism has got more to do with the majority trying to find solutions to the Zamindari elite minority ruling class- The same situation existed Bihar too- but what lacked in Bihar was the educated elite capable of channelizing the majority of landless and oppressed to the level of achieving the power at the state level-

Other than that I agree there has been a sense of superiority complex among the Bengali elite WRT rest of India-

The same thing happened to the Mallus. The leftist dominance of educational institutions destroyed the true intellectual rationalization and replaced it with dogma disguised as free thought.

You are again right in determining the land ownership disparity as the reason for communist success with the masses. Again similar to Kerala.

Again spot on about Bihar.

The problem is that Bongs have been fed the toxin for too long now, again similar to kerala. Detoxification cannot be done without blood shed. History of Jews is testimony to that. The longer you wait, the more blood will be shed.

 

[scorpionx]

Everybody is hell bent on criticizing the loopholes in security protocols of a lumpen's party,and thence starts the character assassination of Bengalis in general, the obvious vices of communism, secularism etc. But not a single one pointing that of GRSE's, where this has been going on for years, even stealing of high tech imported materials. Hats off to the charm of Indian politics.

 

[Mamsalaphala]

Everybody is hell bent on criticizing the loopholes in security protocols of a lumpen's party,and thence starts the character assassination of Bengalis in general, the obvious vices of communism, secularism etc. But not a single one pointing that of GRSE's, where this has been going on for years, even stealing of high imported tech materials. Hats off to the charm of Indian politics.

No body expects security to be tight at GRSE due to the fact that its in Bengal ...... at least i don't.

I expect ISI to have significant network there. What we see is probably only the tip of the iceberg. Even Ajit Doval cannot undo history in a year or even 5 years.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

First, I am not criticising them. I am stating facts as I see it

Second it is not like the COmmie and TMC rule were imposed on them like the Islamic and Anglo-Christian rule.

Third, Bongs did give their share of Nationalism and Hinduism,one more than the other.

Swami Vivekanand gave us "Hindu Nationalism", something Bongs are quick to disown. He is the father of Political Hinduism which toady we call "Hindutva" and put it down to Veer Savarkar. What people do not realize that Savarkar himself was inspired by Swami Vivekananda and Swami Ram Tirth (also disciple of Vivekananda).

So its not me who is dismissing their contribution, Bongs are doing that to themselves.

Most Bongs do not realize that Rabindranath Tagor was himself a "Hindutvadi" by today's standards.

It is the Bongs who have caste off their heritage under the influence of Communist. That heritage was their armour, so without it they are destined to be wounded. By me or anybody else who expose them to harsher realities.

You should visit West Bengal- If you haven't- SC Bose, Swami Vivekananda, RabindraNath Tagore, are 1-2-3 among the icons of Bengalis- Its another thing that their teachings find little place in the syllabus of kids- but that applies to most of India-

Youth of Bengal have gone ashtray- weed is the new staple there- club culture and laziness is the norm- Thats the effect of communists on the elite and middle class- so things can't change overnight-

The caste or the racist mindset is still there- and the rising income disparity is widening the gap between the poor and rich so after the 40 years of communist rule things are getting back to 60s- Plantation laborers are jobless and are selling their girls- brothels are common- weed, liquor and other means like cough syrup are now widespread right from university campus to the slums- lottery tickets are more popular than movie tickets- in short all indications point towards a growing need for the change- lets hope only for good there-

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Wonder Mamta Didi's response on this would be?

I hope she doesn't go full Mamta

 

[xyxmt]

As I said, agent arrested in Bareilly will lead to arrest of many moles....lols. Good development though

yeh to her roz kisi ghareeb musalman ko pakar lo aur keh do ISI ka spy hay. development everyday as you need

 

[srshkmr]

Lol,coward and the Bengalis,you must have lost the plot!!Can you name a single non-Bengali person who formed an Army to fight against the Brit,also can you show me a single non-Bengali person who threw a live bomb on the Viceroy of India and that too during the Delhi Durbar in 1911!!Bengalis were the intrumental in getting freedom from the Brits.Bengalis were the first community who launched a massive campaign against the Brits for the first time in India(Swadeshi movement in 1905) and yet you have the audacity to call us "cowards"!!

We "Tamils" Did

 

[Mamsalaphala]

You should visit West Bengal- If you haven't- SC Bose, Swami Vivekananda, RabindraNath Tagore, are 1-2-3 among the icons of Bengalis- Its another thing that their teachings find little place in the syllabus of kids- but that applies to most of India-

Youth of Bengal have gone ashtray- weed is the new staple there- club culture and laziness is the norm- Thats the effect of communists on the elite and middle class- so things can't change overnight-

The caste or the racist mindset is still there- and the rising income disparity is widening the gap between the poor and rich so after the 40 years of communist rule things are getting back to 60s- Plantation laborers are jobless and are selling their girls- brothels are common- weed, liquor and other means like cough syrup are now widespread right from university campus to the slums- lottery tickets are more popular than movie tickets- in short all indications point towards a growing need for the change- lets hope only for good there-

Disowning the teachings of SC Bose, Swami Vivekananda, RabindraNath Tagore and merely use them as iconography is precisely what I am talking about.

What is the use of making them icons when you have rejected their philosophies ? They have done the same to Durga and Durga Puja Converted that into an Icon, A mere symbolism without implementing any of its underling philosophy or understanding its purpose.

This however is NOT true for the rest of India. The philosophies of Hinduism and leaders are more valued than their mere iconography. The only other exception is Ambedkar.

I wish only the best and hope for only the best for my fellow citizens, Bongs included. But wishful thinking is a Moralistic Fallacy. (if you know what that means). You cannot substitute that for the Truth.