King Abdullah of Jordan warns of “massive conflict” if Israel proceeds with annexation

[CrazyZ]

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And majority of Israeli Jews see Israel as an exclusively Jewish state.
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Well that's the problem. I'm not saying its realistic. But the only solution I see to Americanize Israel and Palestine. Current system us a joke anyway. How many elections has Israel had over the last year, I lost count. A separate Palestinian state would be setup to fail.

I always find it funny when American politicians talk about the shared values between the USA and Israel. Reality is that they are very different. USA is a secular multi-cultural democracy. Israel is a ethno-religious state that practices a form of Apartheid with the Palestinians.

 

[Blacklight]

In an age of "Fake News" and "Misconstrued News," I would suggest honorable members, to check any news with multiple outlets, and carefully look into, what context was this statement made. If at all.

To me Jordan wanting war, sounds very illogical.

Peace Out.

 

[925boy]

pakistanis have fought in Arab Israel wars in the past and will fight in future also IA. We are only little bit pissed on the condition of Arabs. How can we fight for them when they dont want to fight themselves ?

that was back then, decades ago. i dont see that happening today, because ARabs near ISrael are either 1) Israel's "friends" or 2) they dont pose any serious military threat to ISrael or and 3) Arabs wont muster any joint force that Pakistanis will see as serious or respectable enough to fight for. THings change with time..

 

[Turan09]

''Jordan Warns'' Nice joke... israel could just crush them in 6 hours, and they know that too...

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Native Pakistanis by a whole have little to do with Indians racially expect for Punjabis and Sindhis who only have a racial affinity with Indian Punjab and immediate neighboring regions. I think that practically every Pakistani user here will attest to that.

India is one of the most diverse regions of the world for a reason home to 100's of various ethnic groups and languages. There is no such thing as an "Indian ethnicity". Never was.

Yes, thank you.

@Naofumi We don't hate Indians, we just don't view ourselves as the same people as you. We take offense when you try to co-opt our heritage and people.

Good relationships are founded on mutual respect. Number one of which is to respect sentiments of Pakistani people.

Having said that, I do agree that Mizrahim are anti-Arab, I have observed that myself. They fit in this strange category with Coptics, Druze, Alawi, Yazidis, Masonite, and other minorities in the Muslim world which worked with Western powers to reduce power of Muslims in their regions. Ofcourse there are many exceptions, but this seems to be a policy of British and French of that time.

Mizrahis were literally thrown out of their countries within weeks notice after the Arab Israeli war of 1948.

Yes, this was wrong, however from what I gather Morroco and Yemen still have Jews.

Look what happened to Yazidi women.

Yes, Daesh did terrible things, simple case of US proxy running amok.

Today, Yazidis doing well, they became PKK and ethnically cleansed parts of Syria and Northern Iraq for a future secular Kurdistan, well until Turkey stopped them.

Your point about Coptics is also false. They are by far the richest and most influential demographic in Egypt. They took down Morsi's government.

 

[Cliftonite]

Yes, thank you.

@Naofumi We don't hate Indians, we just don't view ourselves as the same people as you. We take offense when you try to co-opt our heritage and people.

Good relationships are founded on mutual respect. Number one of which is to respect sentiments of Pakistani people.

Having said that, I do agree that Mizrahim are anti-Arab, I have observed that myself. They fit in this strange category with Coptics, Druze, Alawi, Yazidis, Masonite, and other minorities in the Muslim world which worked with Western powers to reduce power of Muslims in their regions. Ofcourse there are many exceptions, but this seems to be a policy of British and French of that time.

Should I tell you why they hate the Arabs and Muslims? It's bitter to hear. But all these minorities have been under constant persecution by the Arabs and Muslims for decades even centuries. The Mizrahis were literally thrown out of their countries within a week's notice after the Arab Israeli war of 1948. Copts are persecuted in Egypt. Druze and Assyrians in Iraq and Syria. Maronites in southern Lebanon. Rinse and repeat for every minority in that area.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Israel is not going to invade Jordan. It will mean the end of the Jewish state demographically as the Jews will be outnumbered by Arabs. Unless the Arab states are stupid enough to wage a war on it like 1967. Arafat should have accepted the 2000 Camp David proposals.

Dear brother, check the history of Israel. It is an expansionist state which has continued expanding at the expense of Arabs.

South Africa proved that a small minority can hold power over a large majority if it has the military, police, government, and all instruments of control in its power.

 

[Naofumi]

Should I tell you why they hate the Arabs and Muslims? It's bitter to hear. But all these minorities have been under constant persecution by the Arabs and Muslims for decades even centuries. The Mizrahis were literally thrown out of their countries within a week's notice after the Arab Israeli war of 1948. Copts are persecuted in Egypt. Druze and Assyrians in Iraq and Syria. Maronites in southern Lebanon. Rinse and repeat for every minority in that area.

Mizrahis and Druze are more anti-Arab in their voting patterns than Ashkenazis, all of the Netanyahu's bluff is centred around Mizrahis.

@Naofumi We don't hate Indians, we just don't view ourselves as the same people as you. We take offense when you try to co-opt our heritage and people.

Good relationships are founded on mutual respect. Number one of which is to respect sentiments of Pakistani people.

Whatever bro, you're poor blooded Caucasians and we're Negritos, here I accepted this.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Should I tell you why they hate the Arabs and Muslims? It's bitter to hear. But all these minorities have been under constant persecution by the Arabs and Muslims for decades even centuries. The Mizrahis were literally thrown out of their countries within a week's notice after the Arab Israeli war of 1948. Copts are persecuted in Egypt. Druze and Assyrians in Iraq and Syria. Maronites in southern Lebanon. Rinse and repeat for every minority in that area.

Another professor of "Arab affairs" on PDF. @camelguy @Gomig-21 @Falcon29

You have zero clue about this topic and what you have written is pure nonsense. I don't bother picking it apart, as I will be wasting my time most likely.

 

[Cliftonite]

Yes, thank you.

@Naofumi We don't hate Indians, we just don't view ourselves as the same people as you. We take offense when you try to co-opt our heritage and people.

Good relationships are founded on mutual respect. Number one of which is to respect sentiments of Pakistani people.

Having said that, I do agree that Mizrahim are anti-Arab, I have observed that myself. They fit in this strange category with Coptics, Druze, Alawi, Yazidis, Masonite, and other minorities in the Muslim world which worked with Western powers to reduce power of Muslims in their regions. Ofcourse there are many exceptions, but this seems to be a policy of British and French of that time.



Yes, this was wrong, however from what I gather Morroco and Yemen still have Jews.



Yes, Daesh did terrible things, simple case of US proxy running amok.

Today, Yazidis doing well, they became PKK and ethnically cleansed parts of Syria and Northern Iraq for a future secular Kurdistan, well until Turkey stopped them.

Your point about Coptics is also false. They are by far the richest and most influential demographic in Egypt. They took down Morsi's government.

Brother you are looking at it in a very rosy way. By that reasoning, Azim Premji, a Muslim Indian, is also one of the richest men in India. Copts have been persecuted in many ways, especially the poorer Copts, my comment will be way too long if I start posting all the incidents. Maronite Lebanese are some of the most anti Muslim people you will meet. It's because of their experiences during the Lebanese civil war and 30 year Syrian occupation of Lebanon. You can never know the plight of minorities unless you yourself are one.

 

[Naofumi]

Brother you are looking at it in a very rosy way. By that reasoning, Azim Premji, a Muslim Indian, is also one of the richest men in India. Copts have been persecuted in many ways, especially the poorer Copts, my comment will be way too long if I start posting all the incidents. Maronite Lebanese are some of the most anti Muslim people you will meet. It's because of their experiences during the Lebanese civil war and 30 year Syrian occupation of Lebanon. You can never know the plight of minorities unless you yourself are one.

Leave it bro, PDF is the utopia for alternative history enthusiasts.

 

[Philosopher]

Israel has no territorial claims on Jordan and in case of such a thing occurring in an alternative universe, Israeli Jews (2/3 of all Israeli Jews are Arab Jews) would be even further heavily outnumbered compared to the Palestinian Arabs, Israeli Arabs and Jordanian Arabs. Nor is such a scenario remotely realistic.

I suggest you read a little more around the concept of "Greater Israel". Whether they have such designs in mind or not is not something I am privy to, however to claim they have no territorial claims outright is rather naive. As for the latter part of your comment, numbers do not guarantee anything.

 

[Naofumi]

Another professor of "Arab affairs" on PDF. @camelguy @Gomig-21 @Falcon29

You have zero clue about this topic and what you have written is pure nonsense. I don't bother picking it apart, as I will be wasting my time most likely.

Says the guy who thinks every Middle eastern is an Arab because they carry same haplogroup, lol.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Brother you are looking at it in a very rosy way. By that reasoning, Azim Premji, a Muslim Indian, is also one of the richest men in India. Copts have been persecuted in many ways, especially the poorer Copts, my comment will be way too long if I start posting all the incidents. Maronite Lebanese are some of the most anti Muslim people you will meet. It's because of their experiences during the Lebanese civil war and 30 year Syrian occupation of Lebanon. You can never know the plight of minorities unless you yourself are one.

Ask Egyptians about Copts. That is all I am going to say on the subject.

Yes, poor Maronites, they were forced to attack and kill Palestinians and Shia Muslims, along with Israel, due to no fault of their own. Sabra Shatila were just self-defense?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Whatever bro, you're poor blooded Caucasians and we're Negritos, here I accepted this.

We are Iranics like our neighbors Afghanistan and Iran.

Your civilization is centered on the Ganges, not Indus. Why are you so dismissive of your own holiest of rivers?

The center of BD and Indian culture is totally different from Pakistan, this is why our destinies are different as well.