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Khamenei calls on Muslims to reconsider Saudi holy sites management

Not a fan of Saudi Arabia and always found it strange that they get unlimited authority on who gets to go on Hajj or not. That being said, statements like that from Iran only divide, and deteriorates already bad relations.

But I can emphasize, they are Muslims and they want to go on Hajj.
 
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Forget about what they say, their fate wont be any different. This is from Shaheh Muslim.

http://muflihun.com/muslim/41/7034

"Anas b. Malik reported that Allah's Messenger (Peace be upon him) said: The Dajjal (Anti Christ) would be followed by seventy thousand Jews of Isfahan wearing Persian shawls."


WHATEVER the interpretation of the above Hadees is, one thing that is certain and cannot be denied, is the fate of Iran. Wont be any different then the rest of middle east.

As for us, if above Hadess is looked in connection with the one about war with Hind, it all make sense as the army who will conquer India will afterward March east to confront Dajjal and support Christ. Dajjal will be knocking on our eastern fronts, if it hasnt already.
I wonder how Isfahan can provide 70000 Jew while all Iran have only 42000
 
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And what makes you think the Mahdi is going to be widely accepted initially? I think you have not read enough my brother, nor have you studied his subject enough. Firstly, we know that Islam will begin as something strange at the time of the Mahdi, contrary to what scholars state today. Today, we see scholars and ordinary Muslims be prideful due to increasing Muslim demographics, yet the Prophet(SAW) says something else, he says Muslims will be great in number but quantity does them no good. And he states that Islam will be strange, even though most Muslims today think that Islam is at its best stage or best form.

And we study further, we know the Mahdi will experience similar consequences of the Prophet(SAW) too, meaning he will be rejected by most people. Some Muslims think only the governments will oppose him, and some Muslims go even farther and claim he will have allegiance to a country and advance such country's agenda, that is not the case, he will not have allegiance to nobody, and even ordinary Muslims will reject him.

People don't study God enough .... If you look at history, God catches everyone by surprise. The non-Arab Jews and Christians expected the coming Prophet to be non-Arab, and God sent them an Arab Prophet. That is one example, and with the Mahdi, Muslims expect a 40 year old handsome man, dressed in a thobe, that will bring secrets from the Quran or some kind of new knowledge, and that he will be some hyper nationalist character who peddles along other peoples agenda. I tell you once again God will catch everyone by surprise. The Mahdi will be young, average looking, and seem like a totally normal person with no secrets or special powers or special knowledge, the only secret he will carry with them, is that of his heart. He has the best heart out of anyone else on the earth, and that's why God chose him.

And he will not help anybody from among Muslims, if anyone seeks help or acceptance, be spiritual, and even non-Muslims, can be spiritual in their own way, it's good and healthy to be spiritual. If you have something you need to settle with God, settle it with him, he is your Lord after all. The Mahdi is not going to make anyone a righteous person if they don't have the heart to be one. And he will not have time for people, he will not be making sermons and lecturing people. He will be 'fixed' by God in one night, what this means in my opinion, is he will be addressed with task from God, a very simple task with no explanation how to achieve. And this will make him very fearful of God, to point where he is less stressed about how to achieve the task, and more stressed by fact that now he knows is very close to God, and God is watching his every move, and he will die and meet God after he achieves this task(he will not live long), and that fear overrides everything, and that's how God 'fixes' him, and he will be paranoid and able to achieve results quickly.

We don't need to go further into the details of this person, because he is misused by many Muslims. Let God arrange things, in mean time, that should not stop Muslims from seeking justice in the Muslim world, from the scholars, governments and other peoples. It should not make them hopeless and not ambitious, on contrary, Muslims should keep striving to be the best, and strive to have the best character. What's most important right now is ending the strife and working on character of Muslim people, and strive to be ambitious in Muslim societies. Don't allow governments and their clerics to distract you, tell you the Mahdi will fix everything, but until then, don't speak against us or suggest reform , or ... or .. or , etc..... No, that's not how it works, Muslims should urge reform more right now than at time at of Mahdi, because that is the purpose, that without a clear sign, there is faith to strive for what is good, and that is the purpose of life.

That's all I want to say for now ....
good observation but i don't agree with you.
at the time of mehdi muslims will be divided and weak everywhere in the world. thats why their numbers won't matter. mehdi won't be rejected by many people as hadiths states the clear signs of his emergence. one is an army coming to fight him will be buried alive. secondly fighting in hijaz. the people who will have been there to find mehdi will be from all around the globe which means he will be widely accepted.
mehdi times will be tough because the enemies of islam will have reached khyber near madina.
there will be many fronts for muslims. 1 will be in syria and one will be hind.
the worst part for us is that before mehdi there will be bloodshed among muslims specially people of syria. we will also have to fight WW3 without mehdi.

War already waged and the enemy spanked rest assure we will prevail at the end and we will be the game changer just stay tuned.


Sunni vs shia a war never stopped for centuries except this time shia will prevail it's already obvious.
shia won't prevail. neither will sunni. israel will prevail in case of this war.
 
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Forget about what they say, their fate wont be any different. This is from Shaheh Muslim.

http://muflihun.com/muslim/41/7034

"Anas b. Malik reported that Allah's Messenger (Peace be upon him) said: The Dajjal (Anti Christ) would be followed by seventy thousand Jews of Isfahan wearing Persian shawls."


WHATEVER the interpretation of the above Hadees is, one thing that is certain and cannot be denied, is the fate of Iran. Wont be any different then the rest of middle east.

As for us, if above Hadess is looked in connection with the one about war with Hind, it all make sense as the army who will conquer India will afterward March east to confront Dajjal and support Christ. Dajjal will be knocking on our eastern fronts, if it hasnt already.

your fake religion and fake hadiths and fake books. :lol:

your fake books are not approved by ISLAM.

LOL! how you people are fooled since past 1400 years. :lol:

good observation but i don't agree with you.
at the time of mehdi muslims will be divided and weak everywhere in the world. thats why their numbers won't matter. mehdi won't be rejected by many people as hadiths states the clear signs of his emergence. one is an army coming to fight him will be buried alive. secondly fighting in hijaz. the people who will have been there to find mehdi will be from all around the globe which means he will be widely accepted.
mehdi times will be tough because the enemies of islam will have reached khyber near madina.
there will be many fronts for muslims. 1 will be in syria and one will be hind.
the worst part for us is that before mehdi there will be bloodshed among muslims specially people of syria. we will also have to fight WW3 without mehdi.


shia won't prevail. neither will sunni. israel will prevail in case of this war.

Only Faithful will prevail. so we do not need to worry.

saudi never qualified to manage the holy sites. thousands die due to various reason during hajj each year.

HAJJ UNDER G4S or HAJJ UNDER ISRAEL.

Hajj and umrah has become a Mossad spying centre again Muslims.

Not a fan of Saudi Arabia and always found it strange that they get unlimited authority on who gets to go on Hajj or not. That being said, statements like that from Iran only divide, and deteriorates already bad relations.

But I can emphasize, they are Muslims and they want to go on Hajj.

Islam does not approves monarchy. Islam is against monarchy.

There is no point that monarchs control over Holy Islam and Holy sites.

kill thousands each year at holy sites with various reasons and no one should bother.

people will see the power of the faithful words.

Free Holy Sites from the clutches of wahabi Monarchs and restore Islam.

We are neutral :-)

fooling yourself. :lol:

Sunni arabs count shias ( especially Iranians ) as infidels !!!

Ah ... saudi angels !!!

Nobody dares to attack iran ... because we can smoke all the oil fields in the region :)

Not only oil fields ...Power plants/factories/.../All of the infrastructures !

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Good good

point is that these daggas do not understand that Shias are majority in this part of Middle East region.

bringing in millions of Jahil foreigners from pak or india or others parts will not help them in case of war. they all will become liability for the enemies.

We have good relations with both
http://www.iran-daily.com/News/139684.html

http://www.dawn.com/news/1213852

Why do you think we refused to intervene in Yemen?

it was chinese decision that stops Pak from interfering in yemen.

if pak remain neutral it is good for all of us.
but if it takes sides then for sure can't escape destruction and there will be no reason for all of us to live together.

People of pakistan will not allow the wahabi dogs to take pak to war against Islamic IRAN. These wahabis have already provided saudi with nukes and send millions ignorant and fools to saudi but that is good for us and none of them will be allowed to return alive in case of war.
 
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good observation but i don't agree with you.
at the time of mehdi muslims will be divided and weak everywhere in the world. thats why their numbers won't matter. mehdi won't be rejected by many people as hadiths states the clear signs of his emergence. one is an army coming to fight him will be buried alive. secondly fighting in hijaz. the people who will have been there to find mehdi will be from all around the globe which means he will be widely accepted.
mehdi times will be tough because the enemies of islam will have reached khyber near madina.
there will be many fronts for muslims. 1 will be in syria and one will be hind.
the worst part for us is that before mehdi there will be bloodshed among muslims specially people of syria. we will also have to fight WW3 without mehdi.

You are misunderstanding the information and order of events, before we get into that, what do you mean by Muslims being weak? If we were strong, what is that supposed to change? Muslims have corruption on wide scale, they have brain drainage, clerics that are not bright, too many clerics, they have lack of education reform, they have political chaos, and lastly they have spiritual corruption. So you are mistaken if you believe the only problem is that Muslims are weak, but in general they are good in the eyes of God, no, they aren't good, they have bad intentions and that's the problem. And when it is mentioned Muslims will surrounded in Madina, it is referring to the Mahdi and people who initially support him, if it is even a saheeh hadith, and they would be surrounded by other Muslims, not anyone else.

There will be no world war before him, nor after him. A world war signifies many nations at war against one another, the war at the time, will first of all occur very late at end of his rule, and will consist of much of world against his movement, so it was given a different term. He is not going to rush for a fight, on contrary, that world will not last long, will be days of months, the other 7-8 years of his rule is working on Muslims, and correcting them. And no there won't be fronts, you are misunderstanding hadith, what exactly he will do we don't know. What matters, is prophecy should not deter us from tackling corruption, ending political chaos and doing educational reform.
 
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I wonder how Isfahan can provide 70000 Jew while all Iran have only 42000
You are misunderstanding the information and order of events, before we get into that, what do you mean by Muslims being weak? If we were strong, what is that supposed to change? Muslims have corruption on wide scale, they have brain drainage, clerics that are not bright, too many clerics, they have lack of education reform, they have political chaos, and lastly they have spiritual corruption. So you are mistaken if you believe the only problem is that Muslims are weak, but in general they are good in the eyes of God, no, they aren't good, they have bad intentions and that's the problem. And when it is mentioned Muslims will surrounded in Madina, it is referring to the Mahdi and people who initially support him, if it is even a saheeh hadith, and they would be surrounded by other Muslims, not anyone else.

There will be no world war before him, nor after him. A world war signifies many nations at war against one another, the war at the time, will first of all occur very late at end of his rule, and will consist of much of world against his movement, so it was given a different term. He is not going to rush for a fight, on contrary, that world will not last long, will be days of months, the other 7-8 years of his rule is working on Muslims, and correcting them. And no there won't be fronts, you are misunderstanding hadith, what exactly he will do we don't know. What matters, is prophecy should not deter us from tackling corruption, ending political chaos and doing educational reform.
a world war will happen before mehdi. 80 roman banners with 12000 men under each banner will fight muslims. muslims will be further weaken by infighting on a mountain of gold in iraq. there is one more hadith mentioned by nuaim bin hammd that turks i.e. the russians will invade syrians.
 
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a world war will happen before mehdi. 80 roman banners with 12000 men under each banner will fight muslims. muslims will be further weaken by infighting on a mountain of gold in iraq. there is one more hadith mentioned by nuaim bin hammd that turks i.e. the russians will invade syrians.
What about many hadith that state only god is aware of the end of the time and anybody who predict it is a liar. What about the ones who say only God know when savior will come
 
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What about many hadith that state only god is aware of the end of the time and anybody who predict it is a liar. What about the ones who say only God know when savior will come
"What about the ones who say only God know when savior will come "
Read Surah Namal ....very interesting....don't remember exact ayat..
 
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Yeah ok . but you arnt allowed to do matam shatam or typical rona dhona type drama there .
 
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a world war will happen before mehdi. 80 roman banners with 12000 men under each banner will fight muslims. muslims will be further weaken by infighting on a mountain of gold in iraq. there is one more hadith mentioned by nuaim bin hammd that turks i.e. the russians will invade syrians.

Your info is wrong, and more importantly, Muslims don't want a savior to come. Look around you and observe, many camps are satisfied with influence they are gaining, and don't mind others dying. What matters to Muslims is influence, power, and gathering wealth, nobody among Muslims wants an honest and just leader. Most Muslims today don't fear God, to them God is their tool(AstighfarAllah) to advance their agenda. They can preach and make statements all day long, God is innocent of them and their likes, and so is the Mahdi. So if he comes anytime soon, it will be very bad news for most Muslims.
 
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What about many hadith that state only god is aware of the end of the time and anybody who predict it is a liar. What about the ones who say only God know when savior will come
its the time when world will end. its in the quran too but their are few things that are to happen in the future and are predicted by almost all religions specially the people of books. for example Prophet Muhammad pbuh coming was told by almost every prophet before. similarly every prophet had warned their followers of dajjal.
but no one ever had predicted the exact date of qayamat. no body knows except ALLAH.
People ask you concerning the Hour, say: "The knowledge of it is with Allah only. What do you know It may be that the Hour is near!" Surah Al-Ahzab (33:63)
 
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your fake religion and fake hadiths and fake books. :lol:

your fake books are not approved by ISLAM.

LOL! how you people are fooled since past 1400 years. :lol:

FOOL. Do you even know what is "Sihah Sitta". "Shaheh Muslim" is part of Sihah Sitta. This Hadess is from Muslim.
Go and bloody educate yourself you Iranian boot licker.

I wonder how Isfahan can provide 70000 Jew while all Iran have only 42000

This is a end of time prophecy Hadess from Shahih Muslim which is part of Sihah Sitta (6 authentic books of Hadeess). Jews are present in Iran and Isfahan is their ghetto. In Islam, when numbers are mentioned, like when we are told that Allah loves us 70 times more then our mothers doesnt mean you have to multiply your mother love by 70 and get to the some sort of criteria. These are just Arabic language expressions expressing the severity or lack of it for a particular subject.

The entire number of Iranian Jewish ain't more than 30k ...let alone Isfahan ... and I didn't get its connection with Hind ..

Its the end of time prophecy. As I mentioned to some other posters, in Islam and Arabic language a certain number doesnt mean the EXACT number but to describe the servility of an issue or lack of it.

You are more then welcome to deny and let you nationalism cloud your judgement but warnings were send 1400 years ago. Let me remind you, this is from Muslim, an authentic hadess book which form the 6 books of Hadess.

Gazwa-e-Hind prophecy is connected in my opinion becuase the army who will capture Hind and bring its rulers in chains will then move "east" to help Jesus and confront Dajjal. In Pakistan east, the first country that comes is Iran. Dajjal is the common factor is both prophecies.
 
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FOOL. Do you even know what is "Sihah Sitta". "Shaheh Muslim" is part of Sihah Sitta. This Hadess is from Muslim.
Go and bloody educate yourself you Iranian boot licker.



This is a end of time prophecy Hadess from Shahih Muslim which is part of Sihah Sitta (6 authentic books of Hadeess). Jews are present in Iran and Isfahan is their ghetto. In Islam, when numbers are mentioned, like when we are told that Allah loves us 70 times more then our mothers doesnt mean you have to multiply your mother love by 70 and get to the some sort of criteria. These are just Arabic language expressions expressing the severity or lack of it for a particular subject.



Its the end of time prophecy. As I mentioned to some other posters, in Islam and Arabic language a certain number doesnt mean the EXACT number but to describe the servility of an issue or lack of it.

You are more then welcome to deny and let you nationalism cloud your judgement but warnings were send 1400 years ago. Let me remind you, this is from Muslim, an authentic hadess book which form the 6 books of Hadess.

Gazwa-e-Hind prophecy is connected in my opinion becuase the army who will capture Hind and bring its rulers in chains will then move "east" to help Jesus and confront Dajjal. In Pakistan east, the first country that comes is Iran. Dajjal is the common factor is both prophecies.
What I know is Dajal will be in Syria .... by the way I am not that much into these prophecies to make my life base on them ...

And 70k Jews in Isfiahn doesn't mean there will be no Muslim there , actually Shia not only believe in Mahdi but also considers him as Imam whom is alive right now and due to prophet wordings Shia has always waited for his arrival ....
 
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