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Key Saddam deputy and top militant leader al-Douri killed in Iraq

Agree, hope the news is true, so Iraq can be free3d from this Islamic state terrorism.

am very surprised to read this comment from you... surely you realize that izzat ibrahim is not a qaeda/ikhwaan reactionary.

current iraq government is meant to go the model of the mullah government in iran... surely you do don't want it that way.
 
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am very surprised to read this comment from you... surely you realize that izzat ibrahim is not a qaeda/ikhwaan reactionary.

Al Qaida itself was trying to bring down Saudi monarchy where as the Ikhwaan are the Arab tribes which are protecting the Saudi Monarchy.

current iraq government is meant to go the model of the mullah government in iran... surely you do don't want it that way.

I think with time Iraq will be allied with GCC.
 
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am very surprised to read this comment from you... surely you realize that izzat ibrahim is not a qaeda/ikhwaan reactionary.

current iraq government is meant to go the model of the mullah government in iran... surely you do don't want it that way.

So what is he doing with islamic state extremists then if hes not part of them??
I will rather Iraq follow the desolutional Mullahs of Iran than the blood thirsty suicide bombing/beheading addicted sunni terror groups like ISIS and its other islamic stat affiliates anyday.:D
 
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According to some domestic sources, today IRIAF launched a secret mission bombing unknown places in Iraq, we got the news before the news of Douri getting killed comes out. I wouldn't be surprised if it was IRIAF's job.

Regardless, I hope the news is true, this guy is responsible for killing lots of Iraqi civilians, may he rest in pieces.
 
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Ladies and Gentlemen, We got him!
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yep... that original scene was performed first in iraq, then in libya and now will be again done in iraq... but i hope not.

You gotta be kidding me.

no, really.

1. what this thread topic makes clear is that nato has been using excuse of isis to act in iraq against baathi fighters ( socialist basis )... if it wasn't for this supposed death of izzat ibrahim, the name "iraq baathists" wouldn't have been mentioned in this incident by either the current iraqi occupation government or brainwash media outlets like reuters.

2. i have been saying in syria-related threads that "nato bombing operations against isis in syria" are just excuse to legitimize nato military operations in syria which can slowly build up to create a "no fly zone" where syrian aircraft are shot down for flying in syrian territory.

now tell me what isis is... perhaps a new name for qaeda?? and qaeda itself lent fighters to such names of groups as fsa and nusra... so??

Baath party was established in Syria and from there only it spread all over the Arab world. Michel Aflaq was one of the early founder of Baathism.

yes.

and if i remember correctly . US helicopter gunship once crossed into Syrian border towns to hit Al Qaida/Baathist operatives.

they just use "qaeda" as excuse to kill baathists.

I think regime was the term used during the Cold war for the Governments allied with USSR during the cold war. Even Eastern Germany was termed as Regime before the fall of Berlin wall.

thanks for that... i will check.

In reality, Iraq Baath leadership is being keep low profile since many years. Most of the attacks are being credited either to Al Qaida or ISIS.

true... i didn't hear of actions by iraqi baathi fighters until that 2011 going into libya.

DNA test will be done by Iraqi experts.

they should also show the deceased man to the world... but i wonder whose bio-sample they are going to take to compare it with the deceased man.

Iraqi central government right now is having upper hand because the Baath leadership and its International supporters are more interested in keeping Syria under thier control.

true enough.
 
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So what is he doing with islamic state extremists then if hes not part of them??
I will rather Iraq follow the desolutional Mullahs of Iran than the blood thirsty suicide bombing/beheading addicted sunni terror groups like ISIS and its other islamic stat affiliates anyday.:D

Iranians have played the biggest role in over throwing the Baath Regime in Iraq and to counter Iran , first Al Qaeda tag was used in which Al Askari Shrine was bombed which further divided the Iraqis and now ISIS tag is being used .

Baath party is always at odds with all the neighboring countries be it Saudis, GCC and Iran.
 
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According to some domestic sources, today IRIAF launched a secret mission bombing unknown places in Iraq, we got the news before the news of Douri getting killed comes out. I wouldn't be surprised if it was IRIAF's job.

yeah?? just like the job in 1981, giving info to israeli planes for bombardment of the iraqi nuclear reactor?? :)

Regardless, I hope the news is true, this guy is responsible for killing lots of Iraqi civilians, may he rest in pieces.

and who were they??

comment not worthy of a mod... that man is a hero... how many in the world like him, eh??

all this shia-sunni business is taking hold of you.
 
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yeah?? just like the iran government job in 1981, giving info to israeli planes for bombardment of the iraqi nuclear reactor?? :)

Giving info to Israelis? lol. Bombing a reactor that everyone literally knew where it's located doesn't need infos. And FYI, Iran had bombed the reactor once before Israel, destroying half of it. Israel destroyed the rest.

and who were they??

comment not worthy of a mod... that man is a hero... how many in the world like him, eh??

all this shia-sunni business is taking hold of you.
1991 uprisings in Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Al-Anfal Campaign - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I think tens of thousands of civilians is only a number to you, that piece of shit may be a hero to you, but not for Iraqis. He also helped ISIS significantly to capture Mosul and Tikrit. We are literally talking about one of the purest scums on earth.
 
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Giving info to Israelis? lol. Bombing a reactor that everyone literally knew where it's located doesn't need infos.

is that all it takes?? :)

And FYI, Iran had bombed the reactor once before Israel

why did you think i didn't know that??

note again how i wrote my previous post.

destroying half of it. Israel destroyed the rest.

1. can you give me a source which says that iran airforce did not fail in that mission??

2. what is the difference between "destroying half of it" and "destroyed the rest"?? can you give me pictures??
 
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2. what is the difference between "destroying half of it" and "destroyed the rest"?? can you give me pictures??

Due to lack of intelligence we did not know was reactor loaded by fuel or not consequently we decided not to bomb the reactor itself to prevent possiible contamination ... we just bombed other facilities.
 
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but not for Iraqis.

are you speaking on behalf of the iraqis?? which iraqis??


sorry but i laughed when i saw the name of your source... below are two more to match the "iraqi uprising"...

Libyan uprising one-year anniversary: timeline - Telegraph

Civil uprising phase of the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

should i then take these "uprisings" at face value?? :)

from your own source...
The 1991 uprisings in Iraq were a series of popular rebellions in northern and southern Iraq in March and April 1991 after the Gulf War.

i wonder why these rebellions happened in those two regions, especially the south which after 2003 hosted the wonderful british army. :D

On February 15, 1991, then President of the United States of America, George H. W. Bush, made a speech targeting Iraqis via Voice of America radio. Hoping to incite a swift military coup to topple Saddam Hussein, Bush stated:[6]
“ There is another way for the bloodshed to stop: and that is, for the Iraqi military and the Iraqi people to take matters into their own hands and force Saddam Hussein, the dictator, to step aside and then comply with the United Nations' resolutions and rejoin the family of peace-loving nations.[7][8] ”

Bush made a similar appeal on March 1, two days after the liberation of Kuwait:
“ In my own view...the Iraqi people should put [Saddam] aside, and that would facilitate the resolution of all these problems that exist and certainly would facilitate the acceptance of Iraq back into the family of peace-loving nations.[9]

how nice.

On the evening of February 24, several days before the Gulf War ceasefire was signed, the Saudi Arabia-based Voice of Free Iraq radio station, allegedly funded and operated by the CIA, broadcast a message to the Iraqi people telling them to rise up and overthrow Saddam.

and they did... lovely. :lol:

I think tens of thousands of civilians is only a number to you, that piece of shit may be a hero to you,

surely you are joking... let us cast a eye at glorious iran government which kills its own citizens, leave aside the iraqis it killed in 1980-88 and after...

from ( 1988 executions of Iranian political prisoners - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )...
The 1988 executions of political prisoners in Iran (Persian: ۱۳۶۷ اعدام زندانیان سیاسی در تابستان‎) refers to the state-sponsored execution of political prisoners across Iran, starting on 19 July 1988 and enduring for approximately five months. The majority of those killed were supporters of the People's Mujahedin of Iran, although supporters of other leftist factions, including the Fedaian and the Tudeh Party of Iran (Communist Party), were executed as well

The killings have been described as a political purge without precedent in modern Iranian history, both in terms of scope and coverup.[3] However, the exact number of prisoners executed remains a point of contention. Amnesty International recorded the names of over 4,482 disappeared prisoners during this time,[4] but Iranian opposition groups suggest that the number of prisoners executed was far higher, and as many as 30,000 dissidents may have been executed


from ( Iranian fugitive: identity mix-up with shot Neda wrecked my life | World news | The Guardian )...
The photograph of Neda Agha Soltan, who was shot dead on a Tehran street by a government sniper during the anti-regime demonstrations in 2009, was used in television broadcasts, web pages and newspapers all around the world. Unfortunately, it wasn't her.

As 26-year-old Neda bled to death on the pavement, her shocked eyes stared into an onlooker's mobile phone video camera and the terrible images were uploaded to international websites. It made her a martyr to those inside and outside Iran protesting at the flawed election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.


from ( http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2010/08/23/117410.html )...
Iranian political activist and prominent journalist Houshang Asid remembers years of imprisonment and torture in the post-revolution Islamic Republic and reflects on the changes that turned his cellmate Ayatollah Ali Khamenei from a benevolent revolutionary to a savage tyrant.

He first stayed in solitary confinement for 682 days and saw no one except Brother Hamid.

"He flogged me, deprived me of sleep, hung me with ropes from the ceiling, and made me believe that my wife was also being tortured. He wanted me to confess. Of what? He himself had no idea."

During his torture, Asadi “confessed” to being a British spy and a Russian spy and a double agent for the Shah's secret police SAVAK and the Communist Party.

"I confessed that the Tudeh, the leftist party to which I belonged, was planning a coup against the Islamic government. I invented times and places and stories. However, the torture didn't stop."

Asadi tried to kill himself several times. One time, he drank a liquid which he thought was a detergent then it turned out to be alcohol. Another time, he tried to slit his wrist with the glass of his eyeglasses, but he was saved by one of the guards.

Asadi was saved from the capital punishment only when he said in court that he hated his past and that he was dedicated to serving Khamenei. Only then he was handed a 15 year jail sentence.


from ( Victims Recount Stories of Rape in Iranian Prisons )...
Minoo Homily, from Sanandaj, was imprisoned in 1982 at the age of 17, for her communist beliefs. In Isfahan, where she was later transferred, she says she was sexually assaulted by a male guard while her female warden was away for a few minutes.


from ( Iranians still facing death by stoning despite 'reprieve' | World news | The Guardian )...
Azar Bagheri, 19, was arrested when she was 15 after her husband accused her of seeing another man. She has been subjected to mock stonings along with partial burial in the ground.

Ashraf Kalhori, 40, also sentenced to death by stoning, was forced to confess to a relationship with her husband's murderer, and has been in Tehran's Evin prison for seven years, according to her lawyer.

In one especially gruesome case, Maryam Ayubi, another alleged adulteress, fainted while being ritually washed before her execution in 2001 and was stoned to death while strapped to a stretcher. Outrage over that led to the marking of 11 July as the annual international day against stoning – which will see demonstrations at the Iran embassy in London.

He also helped ISIS significantly to capture Mosul and Tikrit.

do you know that as a fact??
 
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@jamahir why are you admiring dictators so much ? If you like them live with them.

As for Douri, what he was pre 2003 is irrelevant, this is about his behavior post 2003.

Post 2003 he was supporting IS ( as he stated recently in a audio tape ), he knows IS would kill him therefor he never showed up in public but as we all know dictators are willing to drag everyone with them to death if they lose power, as we saw in Germany and many other places. That's basically the last chapter of his life, someone helping IS to take revenge on the world. Good riddance.
 
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Due to lack of intelligence we did not know was reactor loaded by fuel or not consequently we decided not to bomb the reactor itself to prevent possiible contamination

can you show me iran government source saying that originally?? i don't believe that iran government was so very concerned about effects of causing nuclear fall-out near baghdad.


from ( <TARGET: SADDAM'S REACTOR> :: 'AIR ENTHUSIAST' MARCH/APRIL 2004 )...
As soon as Iraq invaded Iran, the Israelis exerted pressure on Iran to attack the building site at Tuwaitha. On September 27, 1980, General Yehoushua Seguy, the then Chief of the Israel Defence Force (IDF) intelligence, publicly urged the Iranians to attack by expressing surprise that "Iran had not yet attempted to bomb the Iraqi nuclear reactor in construction near Baghdad". The Iranians would not make the Israelis wait too long.


from ( BBC ON THIS DAY | 7 | 1981: Israel bombs Baghdad nuclear reactor )...
1981: Israel bombs Baghdad nuclear reactor
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The 70-megawatt uranium-powered reactor was near completion but had not been stocked with nuclear fuel so there was no danger of a leak, according to sources in the French atomic industry.

It acted now because it believed the reactor would be completed shortly - either at the beginning of July or the beginning of September 1981.

The Osirak reactor is part of a complex that includes a second, smaller reactor - also French-built - and a Soviet-made test reactor already in use.

fact 1 - even by the time the israelis attacked, the osirak reactor wasn't complete.

fact 2 - the "reactor" was actually one of three reactors in the same complex, including one which was fueled and working.


from ( <TARGET: SADDAM'S REACTOR> :: 'AIR ENTHUSIAST' MARCH/APRIL 2004 )...
According to an eyewitness, two bombs hit the dome that was to cover Tammuz-1, but bounced off it. Other bombs reportedly caused damage to the pumps and pipes in the water-cooling tower (west of the main facility, which is surprising, given that Iranian pilots deliberately dropped their weapons to the east of the reactors), and the installations for storing and treating liquid radioactive waste. Several labs and service facilities were hit, and heavy damage was caused to various piping systems and plumbing installations.

fact 3 - iran airforce did hit the reactor.

fact 4 - iran airforce also probably hit the secondary reactors, one of which could have gone into fall-out ( i presume ).


from ( <TARGET: SADDAM'S REACTOR> :: 'AIR ENTHUSIAST' MARCH/APRIL 2004 )....
While their warnings may have gone unheeded, the Israelis never stopped trying. Only few hours after Iraq initiated the invasion on September 22, a telex from Israel arrived in the offices of the Iranian government, starting with: "How may we help?"

The same message continued with a very detailed assessment of the Iraqi military, including unit dispositions and locations along the Iranian border, and a list of 124 suggested targets for the IRIAF, ranging from power stations to air bases, with the Osirak reactor site highlighted.

In addition to the supply of information, within a few days white-painted Israeli Boeing 707s started arriving at the military side of Mehrabad International Airport, delivering crates for the Iranian military.

fact 5 - the israelis had spies in the french company that made the osirak reactor and they would have told israel if the reactor was fueled or not and the israelis would have told iran government... so when iran airforce attacked, they knew that the main reactor was not fueled or even operational.

fact 2 - the "reactor" was actually one of three reactors in the same complex, including one which was fueled and working.


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therefore the irani and israeli attacks on the reactor complex were strategic, to prevent a future iraqi bomb... they were not concerned about immediate nuclear fall-out from their respective attacks on the reactor complex... not even if that would invite international condemnation or even attack ( on iran and israel ).
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however, what the main reactor turns out to be... from ( Operation Opera - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )...
In 2005, Wilson further commented in The Atlantic:

the Osirak reactor that was bombed by Israel in June 1981 was explicitly designed by the French engineer Yves Girard to be unsuitable for making bombs. That was obvious to me on my 1982 visit

Elsewhere Wilson has stated that

Many claim that the bombing of the Iraqi Osirak reactor delayed Iraq's nuclear bomb program. But the Iraqi nuclear program before 1981 was peaceful, and the Osirak reactor was not only unsuited to making bombs but was under intensive safeguards.[36]

In an interview in 2012, Wilson again emphasised: "The Iraqis couldn't have been developing a nuclear weapon at Osirak. I challenge any scientist in the world to show me how they could have done so."


@jamahir why are you admiring dictators so much ? If you like them live with them.

you can't listen to one word of criticism against against western governments and iran government even though they caused such much destruction of your iraq !!!

iran government killed iranis in tens of thousands yet no condemnation from you !!!

lovely.

and if saddam was dictator, who would you say is not-dictator??

Post 2003 he was supporting IS ( as he stated recently in a audio tape ),

he knows IS would kill him therefor he never showed up in public

those two are contradictory statements... and can you give me link to that audio??

someone helping IS to take revenge on the world. Good riddance.

seems like you don't mind isis.
 
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The victims included more than 80 writers, translators, poets, political activists, and ordinary citizens,[6][7] and were killed by a variety of means—car crashes, stabbings, shootings in staged robberies, injections with potassium to simulate a heart attack—in what some believe was an attempt to avoid connection between them

i know that injection of chloroform into veins also simulates heart attack and death will come after a few moments of gasping and panic... death by potassium injection must be similar.

but all this for what?? to kill writers who only want progress and end to regressive system?? :sad:

The person thought to be the first serial victim was Kazem Sami Kermani, an "Islamic nationalist and physician" who had opposed the Shah and served as Minister of Health in the brief post-revolutionary provisional government of Prime Minister Mehdi Bazargan. He was later a member of the first Majles where he criticized the government for its continuation of the Iran-Iraq War after the Liberation of Khorramshahr. He was murdered on 23 November 1988 in his clinic in Tehran by an ax-wielding assailant

iran government was ruthless in pursuit of war, sending even 9-year-old boys across land-mined ground... just to protect a regressive reactionary system?? :sad:

one of the links below was ( Hovyiat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )...
Hovyiat (Persian: برنامه هويت ‎, "Identity") was a biweekly TV program on Iran's IRIB's Channel 1 in 1996. The program's objective was said to be "confrontation with western cultural invasion."[citation needed] The series targeted a broad range of Iranian intellectuals (secular as well as religious modernists), archeologists, artists, scientists and national leaders as Mohammad Mosaddeq.

A signature of the program was the morphing of an image of American Benjamin Franklin on the American hundred-dollar bill, "into the face of the Iranian intellectual under attack."

brainwashing of the irani masses. :lol:

thanks to your link, i found ( Mykonos restaurant assassinations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) and from there came ( KDPI insurgency (1989–96) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )...
The insurgency by the Kurdish Democratic Party of Iran surged in 1989, lasting until 1996. It claimed hundreds of lives, mostly Iranian government troops and Kurdish soldiers. Eruption of the conflict in July 1989 was caused by assassination of the KDPI leader Abdul Rahman Qassemlou by suspected Iranian agents.

In 1979, a wide scale rebellion erupted, as the Kurdish Democratic Party of Iran and its Kurdish allies resisted the new regime. As the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps fought to reestablish government control in the Kurdish regions, more than 10,000 Kurds were killed during this process

The immediate pretext for the renewed insurgency of KDPI was the event of February 1990, when thousands of Kurds demonstrated in seven Iranian towns and more than 500 were subsequently arrested.[5] These protests are said to be due to the execution of 17 Kurdish activists.[5] As a result of the crackdown, the KDPI renewed its military activities.

and it goes on.

wow... iran government is oppressing the kurd populations in iran but our irani mod, serpentine, gave me a link for saddam's oppression of kurds. :lol:

these ayatollah fans are funny.
 
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