Kerala School Drops Vande Mataram from I-Day Programme as Radical Group Objects

[abjktu]

Hahahaha. Progressive Kerala. All it does is cover up its muck and you think it is God's Own Country.

howdu...on seeing our neighboring states..yes,Kerala indeed a God's own country...

 

[DesiGuy]

Send some of hardcore indian seculars from pdf to kerla and lets see how long they will survive.

what a bloody joke...1947, muslims got their own nation and almost have eliminated hindus from there. India on the other, still got muslims problems.

 

[abjktu]

This will surely pave the way for BJP in the state

nope..seems like not possible in the nearer future..
Kerala BJP units are no much different from kongress or Marxists..
lack of vision,no influencing leaders,inter party rifts etc etc....

 

[rockstar08]

Its a long song but in schools we only sing 2-3 paragaphs and its as follows:

Mother, I salute thee!
Rich with thy hurrying streams,
bright with orchard gleams,
Cool with thy winds of delight,
Dark fields waving Mother of might,
Mother free.

Glory of moonlight dreams,
Over thy branches and lordly streams,
Clad in thy blossoming trees,
Mother, giver of ease
Laughing low and sweet!
Mother I kiss thy feet,
Speaker sweet and low!
Mother, to thee I salute.

Who hath said thou art weak in thy lands
When the swords flash out in seventy million hands
And seventy million voices roar
Thy dreadful name from shore to shore?
With many strengths who art mighty and stored,
To thee I call Mother and Lord!
Though who savest, arise and save!
To her I cry who ever her foeman drove
Back from plain and Sea
And shook herself free.

Thou art wisdom, thou art law,
Thou art heart, our soul, our breath
Though art love divine, the awe
In our hearts that conquers death.
Thine the strength that nerves the arm,
Thine the beauty, thine the charm.
Every image made divine
In our temples is but thine.

Mother sweet, I salute thee,
Mother great and free!

what are those paragraphs , where muslims refused to read ?

 

[trident2010]

what are those paragraphs , where muslims refused to read ?

I am not sure, may be only one muslims can praise is allah, no mother nor motherland can be praised. For me, it is not clear what it the problem.

 

[rockstar08]

I am not sure, may be only one muslims can praise is allah, no mother nor motherland can be praised. For me, it is not clear what it the problem.

may be i failed to understand it proper
English is weak

 

[trident2010]

may be i failed to understand it proper
English is weak

May be same problem is with many Indian muslims as the song is in Sanskrit and they wouldn't even understand properly what it really means. May be some religious leader said its against Islam and they just following him thinking it is praising gods but in reality it is praising motherland.

 

[rockstar08]

May be same problem is with many Indian muslims as the song is in Sanskrit and they wouldn't even understand properly what it really means. May be some religious leader said its against Islam and they just following him thinking it is praising gods but in reality it is praising motherland.

may be you are right

 

[Kafiran]

i said those who already bow to idols have NO issue with even singing it.






You hindus can bow to anything. in Islam we are not allowed to bow to any human even if its your mother simple as that.

We only bow to One GOD



the mark specifies one religion the white part represents non-Muslims.

BTW your comparison is lame .

We dont mince our words like you Indians do. The issue is you are majority Hindu country but for a face-palm use this "secularism" excuse due to which you are in a fix. You cant stop imposing Hindu beliefs on others and at the same time claim you are not imposing it.



all rat (in punjabi english) you take rest am also going for a mad drive on Peshawar roads since due to PTI Azadi March our city roads are so clam and without traffic so its a golden opportunity .

will come back for debate tomorrow

The kaaba made of stone in mecca is not a stone? Also the stone embedded is also not a stone? Also, when muslims do namaz, there will be lakhs of stones between your head and the kaaba. So geographically and logically, you are bowing to the stone four times more than idolators.

 

[karakoram]

The kaaba made of stone in mecca is not a stone? Also the stone embedded is also not a stone? Also, when muslims do namaz, there will be lakhs of stones between your head and the kaaba. So geographically and logically, you are bowing to the stone four times more than idolators.

You insane hindu if you don't know any thing about islam then stay away. We don't bow to the stones like you do. we only bow to all mighty Allah. and khana kaaba is only direction for prayer thats it we dont worship kabaa. At the time of Muhammad PBUH bilal R.A give azaan on the roof of the kaaba. Think before you speak

 

[Kafiran]

You insane hindu if you don't know any thing about islam then stay away. We don't bow to the stones like you do. we only bow to all mighty Allah. and khana kaaba is only direction for prayer thats it we dont worship kabaa. At the time of Muhammad PBUH bilal R.A give azaan on the roof of the kaaba. Think before you speak

Logically, there are stones between you and mecca. And logically, you bow down before stone,though you might think of bowing only to your god. Btw, I'm not hindu, I'm irreligious. And I always look for logic.

 

[Vinayak Tiwari]

Vande Mataram !
Sujalam, Sufalam, Malyaja shitalam,
Shasyashyamalam, Mataram!
Shubhrajyotsna pulkit yamineem
Phullakusumita, drumudala shobhini,
Suhasinim sumadhura bhashinim,
Sukhdam vardam mataram, Vande Mataram!
English Translation-
I bow to thee, Mother,
richly-watered, richly-fruited,
cool with the winds of the south,
dark with the crops of the harvests,
The Mother !
Her nights rejoicing in the glory of the moonlight,
her lands clothed beautifully with her trees in flowering bloom,
sweet of laughter, sweet of speech,
The Mother, giver of boons, giver of bliss.
Now, point out where this beautiful song has a sense of communalism. Now beat the crap out of those anti-nationalist communal bast***s who object to this song.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

And raising objections against Vande Mataram offends my sensibilities. So now what?

If vande mataram has idol worship in it. then a Muslim cannot sing it, because singing it will be tantamount to committing idol worship considered the biggest sin in Islam

Then they should be 'requested' need to leave regardless of their religious affiliations.

 

[Multani]

And raising objections against Vande Mataram offends my sensibilities. So now what?


Then they should be 'requested' need to leave regardless of their religious affiliations.

vande mataram contains durga worship [ idol worship ]

Muslims follow the religion of Islam. The most fundamental principle in the religion is to never ever do idol worship because it is considered the biggest sin and evil

I am sure an indian Muslim will be happy to sing a patriotic anthem but without idol worshipping in it.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

vande mataram contains durga worship [ idol worship ]

Muslims follow the religion of Islam. The most fundamental principle in the religion is to never ever do idol worship because it is considered the biggest sin and evil

I am sure an indian Muslim will be happy to sing a patriotic anthem but without idol worshipping in it.

First - please speak for yourself. Islam is not a monolith. Indians never had an issue with Vande Mataram, save some fanatics.

Second - It has no idol worship. There is something called a metaphor. Anyway, the national anthem(Jana Gana Mana) also contains - 'Bharata bhagya bidhata'... another methaphor. So those having problem with Vande Mataram (national song) should also have problem with the national anthem.

If you don't want to sing a song, don't but you have no right to force others not to sing it either. Either way, they can be legally stripped of their citizenship for going against the Constitution. They will be made to leave.