Kazakhstan to buy Su-30SM

[MilSpec]

Why they did not went for Su-35s?? or they could have opted for its engines and new features which could have enhanced the performance of Su-30s.

which features, and how advantageous are the new Engines for the price point.

 

[Super Falcon]

Agreed SU 35 is besr fighter jet of all time without stealth technology

 

[Basel]

which features, and how advantageous are the new Engines for the price point.

There are many but Su-35's engine and radar is much better and with those new engines Su-30 will not need canards.

 

[MilSpec]

There are many but Su-35's engine and radar is much better and with those new engines Su-30 will not need canards.

You do realize these will be new SU30SM.... they will have the latest iteration of N011Bars Pesa same as SU35 if I am not mistaken..

"And with new Engines, it won't need canards" I am not sure you understand the function of the foreplanes.

 

[phantomrush]

Su30SM is Su30MKI of Russian variant

SO Su30 CM is Super Sukoi ?



Ok ok got so CM is like Indian Sukois 30MKI modified to carry brahmos?...

crack head! Your muslim nation dont have to buy it from India. You can buy it from China. But you know why you really want to buy it from India for your little tini tiny airforce

Kazakhstan has purchased a total of 11 Su-30 cm per year. a total size of the order, is not known. Supposedly 32.
Russian Su-35S will not sell just like that, it's a plane much higher level. Even China will get them with a bunch of restrictions. Starting with the avionics, engines finishing. At the moment, the main task of air defense upgrade. MiG-31 and C-300/400. Su-30cm replacing the MiG-27 / Su-24 old. We got the same 11 battalions of S-300PM in exchange for rent military ranges. Until 2020, the planning division 4 S-400, but the place is huge. Too many countries want Me-400
The fact that the Chinese say about "Chinese avionics in the Su-35S" - lies. There simplified export equipment. In addition, the Chinese have bought in Russia a few hundred engines AL-31.
Sorry for the Google translator.

Why they did not went for Su-35s?? or they could have opted for its engines and new features which could have enhanced the performance of Su-30s.

Because this is the replacement of the Su-24 / MiG-27, which we had 100.
By the way, the price was about $ 25-30 million each
Sorry for the Google translator.

BrahMos is not too good a rocket. Range is small. Onyx better.

 

[Barmaley]

Armenia and Belarus also will buy Su-30SM. This is very important to have one single model of fighter jet which is integrated in common air defence network.
Kazakhstan Air Force already operating Su-30SM, btw

 

[Tshering22]

There are no computers in India Su-30cm No: Laughcry: This aircraft specifically for the Russian Air Force, in which no foreign avionics.
In Kazakhstan, there are still 40+ MiG-31, which will be brought to the level of BM
Su-30cm can P-800 Onyx / Brahmos

Have you not considered replacing the MiG-31s with more SMs or even MiG-35s?
MiG-31s are huge interceptors with limited capabilities in an air-to-air role.

 

[phantomrush]

Have you not considered replacing the MiG-31s with more SMs or even MiG-35s?
MiG-31s are huge interceptors with limited capabilities in an air-to-air role.

Of course not. The speed, altitude, radar capabilities of MiG-31 still will not soon be surpassed. Rockets MiG-31 long-range A2A are still the best in the world.
The closest analogue by Su-35 radar N035 Irbis. However, the speed and altitude inferior.
We would be pleased to receive the Su-35S, with the N035, but this is very expensive. Each plane is worth 70 million. For this price, you can buy 2-3 Su-30cm.

 

[Oracle 33]

Why they did not went for Su-35s?? or they could have opted for its engines and new features which could have enhanced the performance of Su-30s.

Has higher costs and is Russia willing to sell their most prized jet to them? This is adequate for all their needs.

 

[Tshering22]

Has higher costs and is Russia willing to sell their most prized jet to them? This is adequate for all their needs.

Kazakhstan is still politically aligned to Russia.

Moscow has no problem selling their secrets to them.

Armenia and Belarus also will buy Su-30SM. This is very important to have one single model of fighter jet which is integrated in common air defence network.
Kazakhstan Air Force already operating Su-30SM, btw

Russia has quite an achievement I tell you. Almost 80% of Asia flies Russian jets either Sukhois or MiGs or both.

That tells a lot about Russian reliability as a repeat customer.

Your folks should market these softer aspects too for additional clients.

 

[Lonely Hermit]

There are no computers in India Su-30cm No: Laughcry: This aircraft specifically for the Russian Air Force, in which no foreign avionics.

Are you sure as far as I know Su-30SM is a derivative of MKI ? It has certain Indian components.
Russia places Rs 65-crore order for procuring 34 radar computers

Russia places Rs 65-crore order for procuring 34 radar computers - timesofindia-economictimes

 

[phantomrush]

Are you sure as far as I know Su-30SM is a derivative of MKI ? It has certain Indian components.
Russia places Rs 65-crore order for procuring 34 radar computers

Russia places Rs 65-crore order for procuring 34 radar computers - timesofindia-economictimes

It's for sale. Su-30MK2 Vietnam, Su-30MKA Algeria, Uganda, Malaysia, Indnoeyzii, Vinesuely and another country pile.
In the Russian army can not be aircraft with foreign elements. The last such aircraft Antonov. They Ukrainian engines. Russia has been trying to keep Ukraine maintain its industry. However, Ukraine has chosen the fate of Romania in the EU.
It's not safe.

 

[Lonely Hermit]

It's for sale. Su-30MK2 Vietnam, Su-30MKA Algeria, Uganda, Malaysia, Indnoeyzii, Vinesuely and another country pile.
In the Russian army can not be aircraft with foreign elements. The last such aircraft Antonov. They Ukrainian engines. Russia has been trying to keep Ukraine maintain its industry. However, Ukraine has chosen the fate of Romania in the EU.
It's not safe.

From the article it is clearly mentioned Russian Airforce.
"Till date, a total of 300 of these computers are produced by the HAL for various aircraft programmes of Indian Air Force, Algerian Air force and Russian Airforce through Rosoboronexport."

 

[phantomrush]

From the article it is clearly mentioned Russian Airforce.
"Till date, a total of 300 of these computers are produced by the HAL for various aircraft programmes of Indian Air Force, Algerian Air force and Russian Airforce through Rosoboronexport."

As someone who knows how difficult it is Belarusian, Kazakh push elements in the Russian army, can tell you a fairy tale
Before selling the aircraft enters the temporary maintenance of the Russian Air Force, in order to test. After that, it is delivered to the buyer.
By the way, this may be the radars for 16 Su-30M2, which Russia built for a foreign customer, but he was unable to pay the order. Then, the state bought, and finish as the aircraft for the Russian Air Force. Other way, I do not know.

Kazakhstan is still politically aligned to Russia.

Moscow has no problem selling their secrets to them.



Russia has quite an achievement I tell you. Almost 80% of Asia flies Russian jets either Sukhois or MiGs or both.

That tells a lot about Russian reliability as a repeat customer.

Your folks should market these softer aspects too for additional clients.

Of course, we can buy the most sophisticated and modern weapons from Russia. However, it costs a lot of money. 70 million for the Su-35S. That's a lot. In addition, the Su-35S aircraft is primarily gain air superiority. We are there - the MiG-31B. Now the task of replacing the Su-24 and Mig-27 => Su-30cm. Through years of 5-10 MiG-31B => Su-35S. Then, already in 10-15 years it will be possible, and the Su-27 / MiG-29 to be changed.

 

[Lonely Hermit]

As someone who knows how difficult it is Belarusian, Kazakh push elements in the Russian army, can tell you a fairy tale
Before selling the aircraft enters the temporary maintenance of the Russian Air Force, in order to test. After that, it is delivered to the buyer.
By the way, this may be the radars for 16 Su-30M2, which Russia built for a foreign customer, but he was unable to pay the order. Then, the state bought, and finish as the aircraft for the Russian Air Force. Other way, I do not know.

Su 30 MKM, Su 30 MKA, Su 30 SM are all derivatives of Su 30 mki they share a lot of similar features and that includes Indian components.